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Respect army, CJ tells Asma

ISLAMABAD – Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry Thursday asked Asma Jehangir to refrain from disrespecting Pakistan Army officials and questioned her as to why should the court deem a foreign general’s statement more credible than that of ‘our own men’.
The chief justice was heading a nine-member bench of the apex court hearing the petitions filed by PML-N President Nawaz Sharif and others on the memogate scandal.
Asma Jahangir, counsel of former ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani, read out former US National Security Advisor General James Jones’ to the court. According to the general’s statement Haqqani had no involvement in the memo, she said.
The chief justice said: “Instead of giving importance to our own people (COAS and ISI DG) why should we consider the James’ affidavit more credible. Asma said army chief’s team brought the memo issue to his knowledge and on that basis he submitted his affidavit. The chief justice said armed forces have rendered lot of sacrifices for the defence of the country and they have respect for Chief of Army Staff (COAS).
Asma said: “We also respect the army and are indebted to soldiers for their sacrifices for the defence of the country.” She said in fact the army officers rule while the soldiers are giving their blood for the protection of our frontiers. She said: “History tells that wisdom is not in the knees.”
The chief justice asked Asma not to use such insulting remarks for anyone
. Husain Haqqani’s counsel said no one is infallible and everyone can make mistakes. Asma said that memo scam has become a bone of contention between the civilian government and the army. The government cannot take a tough stand against the army because it in a transitional period.
She said Husain Haqqani has resigned. The chief justice immediately pointed out that the resignation had been tendered in the presence of the president in that meeting after much thought. Asma reiterated that the memo is just a piece of paper and the court should not give much importance to it.
The chief justice said if the federation considers the memorandum just a piece of paper then why a key meeting was held at the Presidency, which was also attended by the prime minister, the army chief and the director general of ISI, in addition to Husain Haqqani. Asma said such meetings were also held at the time of your resignation but bar, media and civil society’s stance was that there should be due process of law.
Asma, submitting the record of the articles written by Mansoor Ijaz, said Mr Mansoor for the last three years has been writing articles against the ISI in foreign press, but what persuaded ISI DG to probe Mansoor Ijaz on an article appearing in Financial Times in which highest official of the country – the president – was involved? She said why did ISI DG meet Mansoor Ijaz in London without the permission of the prime minister?
The court observed that in that article allegation were also made against the army, adding it was the responsibility of the ISI DG to investigate that matter. Justice Jawwad S Khawaja said: “I still wonder from where Mansoor Ijaz has come and expressed his willingness to appear before the bench in this case.”
Asma said it was the same Mansoor Ijaz who has been quoted by a Hindu writer, who claimed meeting of Ijaz with RAW authority in Kashmir. Asma asked the bench that if you talk about credibility then how Mansoor Ijaz has become credible.
Justice Shakirullah Jan said if Mansoor Ijaz has such a bad reputation then why her client remained in contact with him. He said there was exchange of messages between Husain Haqqani and Mansoor Ijaz. Asma, reading out some portions of the Blackberry messages, said Mansoor was the person who seemed to be keen to contact with Haqqani but her client on number of occasion did not respond to him.
Asma insisted that memo is a political and not legal issue therefore the court could not hear it. Justice Jawwad S Khawaja said that they are not only judges but also Pakistani nationals, whose children are living here and in this perspective they could give relief to the petitioners.
Asma said Husain Haqqani performed his ambassadorial duties in very difficult times and made earnest endeavours for the prestige of the country. But in return he was disgraced. She said her client has been sandwiched between the two institutions. She said the court’s December 1 interim order has banned Husain Haqqani from going out of the country, which is against the constitution. Justice Saqib said that Article 15 gave freedom of movement within and out of the country. The chief justice said they have not stopped Haqqani from going out but ordered that he should inform the court before going abroad.
Asma also said that the memo was a figment of imagination of Mansoor Ijaz. She said that the memo had mentioned a national security team in the country, but “nobody has confirmed the presence of a national security team in Pakistan”. She claimed that this concept exists only in Ijaz’s mind as a national security team is present in the United States, and not in Pakistan.
Tariq Asam, a petitioner, in his rebuttal said that the contents of memo show that conspiracy was hatched against the sovereignty of Pakistan. It was violation of the citizens’ fundamental rights. Mr Tariq said Haqqani has termed him (Tariq) a doubtful person in his petition and prayed to the court to expunge those words. Asma said that she would file a written statement to expunge insulting remarks against Tariq.
Barrister Zafarullah pleaded that May 2 episode and memo scam could not be seen in different perspectives. Attack on Mehran Base and Salala checkpost was in the continuation of that incident. He prayed that if Mansoor Ijaz was involved in conspiracy then action should be taken against him. He said that except judiciary all the institutions have failed, therefore, the court should hold investigation.
Meanwhile Shafqatullah submitted a written reply through post. His stance was that the government’s resistance to the probe shows the involvement of some high officials.
Asma Jahangir, Tariq Asad and Barrister Zafarullah completed their arguments and from today (Friday) Nawaz Sharif and other PML-N leaders’ counsel would present their points of view.
Agencies add: The chief justice, during Thursday’s proceedings of the memo case, refuted news regarding the Supreme Court’s remarks on the parliament. The chief justice said that the court had said nothing about the parliament and impeachment of the president, and that the apex court fully respects the parliament and the president.

One word witch with capital 'B'
 
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Pakistan does not need outside intervention after seeing yet another traitor amongst her ranks!!! Does she have a husband? If yes I pity him
 
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I hate that bit-- , always ranting about army, as if army has rapped her. Play any clip of her u will see disrespect words coming out of her mouth for army.
 
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Maybe she is ranting about army because.... Army has always taken over.... Army has always made wrong decisions..... Tell me one thing that Pak army did that benefited the country? Just look at musharaf's era. We only lost, didnt gain anything besides dollars that ended up in corrupt army officers bank accounts
 
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She is a lawyer, This is what lawyers do.whatever it takes.
There was a reason I refused to practice law ...............
 
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she is ***** she respect no one thats why no one respect her simply beghairat women .

One woerd describes her the best Who......re

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I hate that bit-- , always ranting about army, as if army has rapped her. Play any clip of her u will see disrespect words coming out of her mouth for army.

What elsedo expect from people who get pay cheques from east side of border.
 
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Oh come on people .......i think we are mature enough to atleast no humilate a women.

She is bad , she is wrong but calling her names is wrong as well.

Plus she is a lawyer and she will do anything to protect his client ,even if she has to tell lies, this is all the wakalat is about.
 
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So this CJ is telling us to RESPECt the army that:



Respect is earned and not DESERVED by default.

This is just a poor post, I would love to school you on each & every single lie you put there, but I will save you the humiliation.
 
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Relax guys! No need to get hyper. She didn't say the whole of PA is bad. She named a couple of officers including the PA and ISI Chief who she said ruled the roost. There's nothing wrong with that. Isn't that the truth? One or two swallows do not a summer make. Similarly a few officers don't make an Army. They, including the top brass, are just a part of it .

She said in fact the army officers rule while the soldiers are giving their blood for the protection of our frontiers. Anything wrong in that? Isn't Pakistan's political establishment subservient to the Army? Did not the Defence Minister himself say a couple of days ago that they have no control over the Defence Forces? The economy, foreign affairs, defence and security are all handled by the Army brass and use the lame duck civilian dispensation as puppets on a string.
 
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Relax guys! No need to get hyper. She didn't say the whole of PA is bad. She named a couple of officers including the PA and ISI Chief who she said ruled the roost. There's nothing wrong with that. Isn't that the truth? One or two swallows do not a summer make. Similarly a few officers don't make an Army. They, including the top brass, are just a part of it .

She said in fact the army officers rule while the soldiers are giving their blood for the protection of our frontiers. Anything wrong in that? Isn't Pakistan's political establishment subservient to the Army? Did not the Defence Minister himself say a couple of days ago that they have no control over the Defence Forces? The economy, foreign affairs, defence and security are all handled by the Army brass and use the lame duck civilian dispensation as puppets on a string.

Has this bloody ***** she seen the ranks and names of those who have given their lives in service of this country ? does this dim wit know the make up of a unit , company and platoon and whether it is possible to not have officers in them ? Pakistan Army has the highset ratio of Officer to Soldier casualties , our officers have always led from the front

bakwas kar rahi hay bal thakray ki goudh mein baith kar yeh kuttay ki aulad

Like her traitor client hussain haqqani , she is a traitor herself. What more proof do we need other than the picture of this gutter worm sucking up to anti-Pakistan shiv sena supremo bal thakray
 
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So this CJ is telling us to RESPECt the army that:

1. Lost all wars
2. Lost half the country while raping and killing east pakistanis
3. Propped up sectarian violence
4. Used proxies instead of fighting on its own and these proxies have turned against them
5. Continues to interfere in politics
6. Confiscate land to turn it into prime real estate
7. Conducted operations against its own population
8. Is the reason behind the hatred aginst the punjabis in all other provinces
9. Has no repect for the law of the land whatsoever


Respect is earned and not DESERVED by default.
Well said. People need top stop treating the badmaash army like they are bunch of angels sent down on earth. THey have done more harm to pak than good.

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This is just a poor post, I would love to school you on each & every single lie you put there, but I will save you the humiliation.
you can school me on each and every single lie he put there, I am ready to face humiliation. Go on...
 
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Too much army bashing these days... in every single media outlet. The ultimate goal is to pressurize Kiyani do a coupe but he's resisting for obvious reasons. Let's see how long Army withstand these bashings.

The de-nuclearization of Pakistan continues...
 
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