Resolution introduced in US House to block sale of F16s to Pakistan

[MilSpec]

no I will leave the threads as they are. Indians tell us they dont care about Pakistan and 8 F-16s since India is launching on a universal conquest but these thread show another story

relax boss, Pakistan is getting the f16's as well as the CSF money promised. If pentagon decides on something, rest is just a formality.

 

[Mav3rick]

US should immediately ban all weapons related sales to Pakistan. This ban should extend to offensive as well as defensive weapons, the weapons related relations should immediately be severed off.

 

[Super Falcon]

So if they cant give us F 16 in military aid than they will give bullets for guns not good for us we decide what we want

Sir, payment by US is in lieu of fund and I am sure no cash will be handed over but military aid.

 

[The Eagle]

So if they cant give us F 16 in military aid

They did not say so yet as I know. Rest about all these resolutions and what not are just kind of formality of political practice by opposition. Lets wait and see till the birds come or denied finally but till now, these sort of perceptions are just to be ignored by viewing all the process and developments. Current position=F-16s are coming...

we decide what we want

Indeed it was discussed in length so the birds are offered and allowed to be delivered to Pakistan for the specific role of F-16s in WOT.

 

[Super Falcon]

Ok than they sell it to u so u blackmail us not gonna happen US never allow un balance in pak and india military if it happens they knew pak will go for last option nukes and it will be danger for entire world and in USA there is one organization working for greater good for USA who do not come under any law in USA it has decided these F 16 are going to pak and this is only khanna poiri to make u happy

US should immediately ban all weapons related sales to Pakistan. This ban should extend to offensive as well as defensive weapons, the weapons related relations should immediately be severed off.

 

[true]

US should stop feeding Pakistan with aid & divert all that fund to the last penny to the Afghan government , who actually play leagues more important role in stabilising their country . Instead they waste billions with little effect .

 

[Super Falcon]

Yes these resolution been only brought just to take some money from india for senators as a diplomacy but they r playing with india resolution has been passed before against us but nothing happen

Us has no option to support pak

 

[mingle]

Ok than they sell it to u so u blackmail us not gonna happen US never allow un balance in pak and india military if it happens they knew pak will go for last option nukes and it will be danger for entire world and in USA there is one organization working for greater good for USA who do not come under any law in USA it has decided these F 16 are going to pak and this is only khanna poiri to make u happy

They need Pak that the bottom line rest is all garbage I know there is pain in our neighbours Butts beacuse US screw them without oil that's why hurt them more .

US should stop feeding Pakistan with aid & divert all that fund to the last penny to the Afghan government , who actually play leagues more important role in stabilising their country . Instead they waste billions with little effect .

Which afghan Govt ??so eat last penny they get joker get life .

 

[Spring Onion]

US should stop feeding Pakistan with aid & divert all that fund to the last penny to the Afghan government , who actually play leagues more important role in stabilising their country . Instead they waste billions with little effect .

It is not aid it is US strategic money invested in Americans' strategic interests. Period.

BTW we had already paid for F-16s many years back and now the delivery will be made

 

[The Eagle]

US should stop feeding Pakistan with aid & divert all that fund to the last penny to the Afghan government , who actually play leagues more important role in stabilising their country . Instead they waste billions with little effect .

A worth reading that to understand that how much US is spending in Afghanistan.... Rest about US to Pakistan, it is not aid but in lieu of foreign military fund for Pakistan in WOT...


Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid

• FindTheBest/Kiran Dhillon

March 31, 2014

In fiscal year 2012 the U.S. gave $42 billion in aid to 186 countries around the world. But the money was not evenly divided.

While Sub Saharan Africa, which has 49 countries—including 18 of the top 20 poorest in the world—received only $7.2 billion in aid, South and Central Asia (13 countries) received more than twice that, at $15.1 billion.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/fMaA6OuDRL7


Most of the aid to South and Central Asia went to just two countries, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Together, they accounted for about $14.02 billion of the $15.1 billion that went to the region, and were among the top recipients of U.S. aid worldwide in 2012.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/8UkCmGoQ9wx


The bulk of the $12.9 billion in aid to Afghanistan—$9.95 billion—went towards spending on military and security assistance to arm and train Afghan military and police forces.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/83agbaFrEKF


With U.S. military forces planning for a withdrawal later this year, it remains unclear just how much lasting impact all of that money will have. According to an article published by the Journal of World Affairs in 2013, “The Money Pit: The Monstrous Failure of US Aid to Afghanistan,” the aid has been exactly that, a failure. Since 2002, approximately 100 billion has been appropriated for aid, and “all of that has not brought the United States or Afghanistan a single sustainable institution or program.”

USAID has handed almost every project over to independent contractors, and has failed to monitor those projects’ progress, the Taliban have attacked or bombed hundreds of new schools and buildings, and corrupt government officials find ways to hoard profits from aid for themselves, by, for example, declaring trailers and non-motorized conveyances in a list of vehicles needing fuel supplied by the U.S. In the words of Heather Barr of the Human Rights Watch, the country is a “perfect case study of how not to give aid.”

Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid - TIME

 

[true]

It is not aid it is US strategic money invested in Americans' strategic interests. Period.

BTW we had already paid for F-16s many years back and now the delivery will be made

It is aid ,they literally say its aid even when they give it to you . Hell a huge chunk has fueled development in your economy sector for the past decade .

And no, it was Pakistan's fault for the f16 deals lockdown, US was always ready to ship them , you just couldn't pay them the remaining amount before the deadline .as time passed by you two couldn't renegotiate the prices for years , the remaining 8 f16 are now getting a subsidised value along with a another batch of aid money .

A worth reading that to understand that how much US is spending in Afghanistan.... Rest about US to Pakistan, it is not aid but in lieu of foreign military fund for Pakistan in WOT...


Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid

• FindTheBest/Kiran Dhillon

March 31, 2014

In fiscal year 2012 the U.S. gave $42 billion in aid to 186 countries around the world. But the money was not evenly divided.

While Sub Saharan Africa, which has 49 countries—including 18 of the top 20 poorest in the world—received only $7.2 billion in aid, South and Central Asia (13 countries) received more than twice that, at $15.1 billion.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/fMaA6OuDRL7


Most of the aid to South and Central Asia went to just two countries, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Together, they accounted for about $14.02 billion of the $15.1 billion that went to the region, and were among the top recipients of U.S. aid worldwide in 2012.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/8UkCmGoQ9wx


The bulk of the $12.9 billion in aid to Afghanistan—$9.95 billion—went towards spending on military and security assistance to arm and train Afghan military and police forces.

https://www.graphiq.com/wlp/83agbaFrEKF


With U.S. military forces planning for a withdrawal later this year, it remains unclear just how much lasting impact all of that money will have. According to an article published by the Journal of World Affairs in 2013, “The Money Pit: The Monstrous Failure of US Aid to Afghanistan,” the aid has been exactly that, a failure. Since 2002, approximately 100 billion has been appropriated for aid, and “all of that has not brought the United States or Afghanistan a single sustainable institution or program.”

USAID has handed almost every project over to independent contractors, and has failed to monitor those projects’ progress, the Taliban have attacked or bombed hundreds of new schools and buildings, and corrupt government officials find ways to hoard profits from aid for themselves, by, for example, declaring trailers and non-motorized conveyances in a list of vehicles needing fuel supplied by the U.S. In the words of Heather Barr of the Human Rights Watch, the country is a “perfect case study of how not to give aid.”

Afghanistan Is The Big Winner In U.S. Foreign Aid - TIME

Did I say USA is not aiding Afghanistan as well ? I'm saying they need more funding ,especially in developing its infrastructure. Stopping the wastage at Pakistan will secure American interests in Afghanistan .eradicating massive terror influence takes decades , developing its economy its the fastest method to bring peace in the region

 

[The Eagle]

eradicating massive terror influence takes decades , developing its economy its the fastest method to bring peace in the region

That is where American officials expressed their concerns over India using Afghanistan against Pakistan and US is supporting Pakistan because it is us that become must for stability in Afghanistan and comfort for US exit. Indeed the US support to the some extent for inviting the India into Afghanistan was like vested interest otherwise, the peace would have prevailed long ago. So also, if these are complains then India needs to launch a protest to US not to Pakistan as after all it is US supporting Pakistan and rest about fund, i repeat, it is for war against terrorism that Pakistan is fighting in own territory being toxic fruits of cold war. You are mixing things here. Afghanistan is totally a different subject.

F-16s are in lieu of FMF fund for Pakistan in war against terrorism which does not relates what is going on inside Afghanistan.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

fair point,
a bit off topic but who would you go out with? diana, trumps daughter, or katie hopkins[1]
[1]a lady you had interest in before

my answer will be really off the forum.so i leave it for now

 

[true]

That is where American officials expressed their concerns over India using Afghanistan against Pakistan and US is supporting Pakistan because it is us that become must for stability in Afghanistan and comfort for US exit. Indeed the US support to the some extent for inviting the India into Afghanistan was like vested interest otherwise, the peace would have prevailed long ago. So also, if these are complains then India needs to launch a protest to US not to Pakistan as after all it is US supporting Pakistan and rest about fund, i repeat, it is for war against terrorism that Pakistan is fighting in own territory being toxic fruits of cold war. You are mixing things here. Afghanistan is totally a different subject.

F-16s are in lieu of FMF fund for Pakistan in war against terrorism which does not relates what is going on inside Afghanistan.

stability that breeds more terrorist is a future country waiting to be destroyed . Afghan has become a bigger hellhole than it was a decade ago , terror & drug trade goes hand in hand , their influence mocks every of outside influence . Only Afghanis can fix their problem , with the help of outsiders, yes, but not by blindly slaughtering suspects , it only leads to more violence & a potential civil war .

India & Afghanistan have close business ties , we got involved in Afghan to protect indian investments. Not because U.S. asked us . Afghanistans silk road will gives us limitless access to resource rich central Asian countries through the India-Iran economic corridor . Stability in Afghanistan's economy is one of our main ,not slaughtering innocent children with drones .

 

[Taimoor Khan]

This perhaps the only time where I sincerely and truly support the Indians in their endeavour to block the F16s deal. please do us this favour. I personally want a big rotten egg on the face of "single engine" F16 lobby within PAF which is holding back PAF for number of years now.