Resolution introduced in US House to block sale of F16s to Pakistan

[Zarvan]

Hi,

The 4.5 gen have already been looked at---. Paf already knows which one they will go for.

The least expensive and the best platform is the J10C. Paf can develop this aircraft as it wants to.

Those who talk about the crashes---do not know about the F16 crashes---. When I lived in ogden utah---in the 80's there was news every other month an F16 crashing into the Salt Lake---it was not considered abnormal---just a development phase---and even the AVM Latif mentioned that as well.

A current aesa equipped J10C would be between the Blk52 ands the Blk60---in the next 5 years time period---the J10C would be in the league of the current BLK60.

What pakistan can do with these U S funds is to procure 5-10 years maintenance package for these aircraft or upgrades.

There is nothing wrong with having a sanction free aircraft with the same capability as the F16's---.

An ideal number for the F16's with paf would be 150----so why not add 75 J10C's----we already have the 75 F16's---.

We will kill two birds with one stone ( J10C )-----we will get aesa---and the threat of sanctions would disappear---because then the sanctions would not serve any purpose.

If paf is able top get the italian aesa for the JF17---there is no reason that it would not be able to get one for the J10C---.

Sir my reports suggest otherwise. What I have heard is that we are going for Fighter Jet from Europe and we would hear about it within a year. I think we should try to 15 more F-16 to make total of 90 Jets making 5 squadrons and than focus on getting either some jet from Europe or J-10 C

 

[Super Falcon]

Bill will be put in garbage let that senator have indian money at the end we get F 16 and india loose

Pentagon is a real deal ans president of USA can veto it too

 

[Quwa]

Hi,

India---wait and see what happens if Trump is elected president---. His today's statement is that all indians and chinese and mexicans etc who are here just for jobs will be kicked out and jobs given to the americans.

So---india is in a very precarious position---.




Hi,

The J10C is already flying with a chinese engine---.

You telling me about a ' new platform induction'---. Are you forgetting that I am the pioneer of that debate on this forum since 2006 where everybody else had their heads in the sand about that issue.

It is better to do it sooner---rather than later---there has to be a new platform---one way or the other---.

Either you will do it after you get the sanctions---or if there are brains---then they will do it now---so that there won't be a question of sanctions---.

Be it a J10C---J16---SU35---Mig35 or eurofighter----whatever----there has to be an aircraft in the 4.5 gen from the above category---.

J-10B/C hasn't been cleared for export. MiG-35 hasn't even seen its first production types off the line. The PAF would probably prefer Su-35, so as to build genuine long-range capabilities, especially for maritime. The Su-35 is going to depend squarely on Pakistan's fiscal capacity. If the proportion going into debt-servicing declines, Russia could be willing to extend a line of credit or term financing plan.

 

[LeGenD]

Sir,

1. J-10 is a new platform
2. Induction of a new platform is a costly venture because it not only involves induction of the aircraft but also the maintenance infrastructure to support it
3. Chinese systems are no where close to the American systems in technical capability
4. China have yet to develop a 100% indigenous aircraft; most Chinese aircraft involve Russian parts (especially engines).

So what if Russia doesn't warms-up to Pakistan as much as we expect it to in the near future? What if Russia is not willing to supply us engines other then the RD-93 due to Indian pressure?

We need to diversity our options and PAF is just doing that. Get some from the US, Russia and China. We shouldn't over-rely on a single country for fulfillment of our defensive needs.

Sir,

Is JF-17 Thunder not a new platform for PAF?

We will get to the so-called 4.5 generation aircraft when we will have ample funds for it. At present, economic growth should be our primary priority.

Moreover, there isn't an aircraft in the inventory of IAF at the moment that the F-16 series aircraft cannot handle. No need to panic.

 

[Syed Hussain]

Oh God, please succeed this resolution with 100% margin let me see the damned faces of PAF officials, let us be rid of this lifetime crap. And rain "burnol" from skies over India in case if you won't accept my earlier prayers.

 

[HAIDER]

Resolution introduced in US House to block sale of F16s to Pakistan

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Fri, 26 Feb 2016-08:10am , PTI
A top US lawmaker has introduced a 'joint resolution' in the House of Representatives to express Congress's disapproval over an arms deal with Pakistan which includes the sale of eight nuclear-capable F 16 fighter jets to the latter.

"The government of Pakistan has been using weapons from the US to repress its own citizens and especially the people of Baluchistan," Congressman Dana Rohrabacher said yesterday after he introduced the resolution in the House of Representatives which is similar to Indian Parliament's lower House, the Lok Sabha.

"The deciding factor of whether to support this Joint Resolution is, for me, the arrogant and hostile actions taken by the government of Pakistan against the man who helped bring Osama bin Laden to justice," Rohrabacher said.

Earlier this month, the Obama administration officially announced it would go through with the US $700 million arms deal with Pakistan.

Alleging that Osama bin Laden was a "mass murderer" of 3,000 Americans on September 11, 2001, he said anyone who helped bring him to justice is an "American hero".

"The government of Pakistan arrested Shakil Afridi and continues to hold him in a cage. The arrest was a declaration of hostility toward the United States," he said.

"Our government should not provide military equipment to Pakistan, let alone F-16s, as long as they are holding Afridi.

His continued incarceration is an action which underscores that the government of Pakistan considers itself our enemy, not our friend," Rohrabacher said.

A day earlier, former Republican presidential candidate Senator Rand Paul introduced the joint resolution in the Senate to block sale of F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan.

The resolution (SJ Res 30) calls for prohibiting sale of eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan, which the State Department had recently notified to the Congress.

It also calls for "prohibiting sale" of other military hardware to Pakistan including eight Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDWES), 14 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems.




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Let's see Indian lobby wins or Pentagon.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir,

Is JF-17 Thunder not a new platform for PAF?

We will get to the so-called 4.5 generation aircraft when we will have ample funds for it. At present, economic growth should be our primary priority.

Moreover, there isn't an aircraft in the inventory of IAF at the moment that the F-16 series aircraft cannot handle. No need to panic.

Sir,

I am a car salesman---I don't panic---I am trained to prepare and confront in advance any issues and crisis that may arise in a clear and professional manner.

My conversation is directed at better preparation and a better understanding of a situation with a different perspective of the situation.

J-10B/C hasn't been cleared for export. MiG-35 hasn't even seen its first production types off the line. The PAF would probably prefer Su-35, so as to build genuine long-range capabilities, especially for maritime. The Su-35 is going to depend squarely on Pakistan's fiscal capacity. If the proportion going into debt-servicing declines, Russia could be willing to extend a line of credit or term financing plan.

Sir,

They are cleared for export to pakistan only---. 18 of them ready for delivery in 2012-13 from existing stock. 2 of them left in 2012 for evaluation etc.

 

[rockstar08]

They are in fact....meaningless.

what does the bold part mean ?
"A top US lawmaker has introduced a 'joint resolution' in the House of Representatives to express Congress's disapproval over an arms deal with Pakistan which includes the sale of eight nuclear-capable F 16 fighter jets to the latter.


Source: Resolution introduced in US House to block sale of F16s to Pakistan

 

[MastanKhan]

what does the bold part mean ?
"A top US lawmaker has introduced a 'joint resolution' in the House of Representatives to express Congress's disapproval over an arms deal with Pakistan which includes the sale of eight nuclear-capable F 16 fighter jets to the latter.


Source: Resolution introduced in US House to block sale of F16s to Pakistan

Hi,

That means : DRAMA "

 

[rockstar08]

Hi,

That means : DRAMA "

LOL, well i almost figure that out but just want to confirm it ..

 

[litman]

it seems we are getting some raptors the way india and congress are trying to stop it. F-16 is good but not the ultimate air craft in the region. russia, china and india have better or equivalent jets.

 

[Uchiha Madara]

Pakistan should increase order to 16 or cancel the sale itself.

If they accept 16 jets offer, dhotis are going to be on fire or if Pakistan cancels the deal, gonna be US loss.

 

[The Eagle]

If the deal has to be stopped than should have been done in start but after all the concern process, Falcons are coming and addition is always good. Even if the said deal is stopped, we will be more than good but doesn't seems feasible at the moment though only time will tell. In both cases, a win win situation and we wouldn't mind like we were in business as well being non NATO ally offered with F-16s that we accepted now if do not delivered than Pakistan will be shopping from somewhere else whether has many options or just one. No worries at all. Such resolutions are only to gain more votes and to have more supporters that will benefit both the contestants for white house.

 

[KingRaj]

Thank you Senator McCain.

 

[TOPGUN]

It's a done deal on it's way nothing can alter it now specially these resolutions.