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Thank you my friend. You are very correct when saying that we tend to generalize people too quickly in this world and we are in a way almost all guilty of it to certain degrees.

It shows great character to be able not to generalize even in the midst of such negative news. Many people could learn from that.

Americans should just know that people and whole nations in the Arab and Muslim world have suffered tremendously from that small minority of lunatics and corrupt regimes.

Indeed the 3.5 million Arab-Americans (one of the bigger ethnic communities in the US) are a very well integrated community in the US with many prominent members in all fields and spheres of American life. I myself was surprised to learn about this when looking at the Wikipedia articles.

Arab American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of Arab Americans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Agreed about Arab-Americans in the US.

One criticism I have to say though is that some of the laws in the West are simply too soft when it comes to Daesh supporters. Here in Europe I have seen instances of people from all backgrounds supporting Daesh and similar groups openly on Facebook and Twitter (often a small minority among them actually end up becoming Daesh members) but nothing is done about them!

The Muslim regimes are by large incompetent so US involvement in combating Daesh and similar groups is very important but it seems that Obama does not want to involve himself in the Muslim world much any longer. The bombardments against Daesh in Syria and Iraq are too few and far between I am afraid. The Muslim regimes should be able to deal with this problem but somehow the idiots cannot do so and 99% of all ordinary people in the MENA region have no say in it.

USA as the greatest power on the planet and biggest Western democracy should actively pressure regimes to adopt political reforms. You have the power to change status quo.

I'd rather say it is the Middle East. Not the entire 'Muslim World'.

America is pleased with my country's efforts against terrorism, and makes it difficult for them to operate. For the record, we operate no fancy US-made equipment, nor do we receive any military aid or whatsoever.

I used to go to this 'Ramadan' section of Yahoo! answers website back in the mid-2000's. I to used to see full of anti-Shia epidemic. Along with other typical stuff coming from a bunch hot-headed nutjobs. Nothing was done about them. These extremist attitudes take shape from there. And not in some cave or mosque.

As for rooting out Daesh completely, it'd require a resource-intensive military operation in the region, and back-end operations around the globe to deal with the organizations and individuals supporting them. The US alone do not have the man-power to tackle all those fronts at once.
 
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We all know what causes lunacy such as this, but it may not be palatable for many to read in in black and white, so I will defer.

I agree but I was thinking what are the specifics. Millions get infected but some then go on to kill. There are some patterns though. When was the last time you heard Turk, Iranian, Bosnian muslims get involved in this sort of activity.

Iran which has had nearly 35 years of very acrimonous relations with the West and in particular US has not produced even one incident. Food for thought?

Ps. Yes, I thank Bangladesh appears to be doing good job as well.
 
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Lone wolves are a serious threat these days.

How can you stop someone from radicalizing themselves using the internet.

Even if you block those sites they will just use anonymous proxies to access the sites anyway.

Law enforcement agencies need to flood the net with their own fake radicalization sites to catch these guys early.
 
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@Syed.Ali.Haider for every 20 extremist sites on the internet, 19 of them should be set up by law enforcement to catch these guys before they are too far gone.
 
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They can only try so much. It is impossible to keep track of all lone wolves being radicalized by these processes.

Lone wolves are the most dangerous for sure, however they are not necessarily working in isolation. They need extremist material available to radicalize themselves, which they will usually find online.

They use proxy software to communicate with other like-minded individuals who encourage them, and help them to radicalize.

Law enforcement agencies should flood the internet with fake extremist sites. Maybe to the point where only 1/100 of those sites is genuine.

I guess they are doing something like that already, but it's not public domain information.
 
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Lone wolves are the most dangerous for sure, however they are not necessarily working in isolation. They need extremist material available to radicalize themselves, which they will usually find online.

They use proxy software to communicate with other like-minded individuals who encourage them, and help them to radicalize.

Law enforcement agencies should flood the internet with fake extremist sites. Maybe to the point where only 1/100 of those sites is genuine.

I guess they are doing something like that already, but it's not public domain information.

There is no such thing as a fake extremist site, since its effect on those so predisposed would be the same - radicalization - whether fake or real is besides the point. The problem is not even websites, since many such individuals react to their local circumstances at home, work and school. An arrest for drunk driving can cause a reaction in an already predisposed individual. His family is not exactly a beacon of tolerance or assimilation itself.
 
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There is no such thing as a fake extremist site, since its effect on those so predisposed would be the same - radicalization - whether fake or real is besides the point. The problem is not even websites, since many such individuals react to their local circumstances at home, work and school. An arrest for drunk driving can cause a reaction in an already predisposed individual. His family is not exactly a beacon of tolerance or assimilation itself.

Well a lot of people do go crazy on their own, but without a "guiding philosphy" it's much less likely to cause a large-scale attack.

If the terrorists were just regular crazies then they should have run out by now, since regular crazies form a very small percentage of the population.

But the numbers of terrorists in the world seem endless, it's not just crazies but regular people caught up in extremist ideologies, that can turn normal people crazy.

The terrorists running rampant in the Middle East (ISIS for example) are not just "people who snapped", it's much more organized and directed than that. And significantly more dangerous. They are like an army.
 
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Well a lot of people do go crazy on their own, but without a "guiding philosphy" it's much less likely to cause a large-scale attack.

If the terrorists were just regular crazies then they should have run out by now, since regular crazies form a very small percentage of the population.

But the numbers of terrorists in the world seem endless, it's not just crazies but regular people caught up in extremist ideologies, that can turn normal people crazy.

The terrorists running rampant in the Middle East (ISIS for example) are not just "people who snapped", it's much more organized and directed than that. And significantly more dangerous.

I would to love to take this discussion forward, but I have been advised by @Slav Defence the TTA Chairman, to not post anything that will offend people, as if I have any control over what other may choose to perceive, "for my own good". Such polite advice works for me.

We all know what the proverbial 800 lbs gorilla in the room is in this discussion, but to discuss this further would offend people certainly., so I must stop here.
 
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US military shooter a well-liked `all-American kid` | Zee News
Last Updated: Friday, July 17, 2015 - 08:04

Chattanooga: A 24-year-old Kuwaiti-born man who gunned down four Marines in a deadly rampage in Tennessee was "an all-American kid" from an "average" family, shocked friends and acquaintances said Thursday.


Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez, who allegedly opened fire at two US military facilities in Chattanooga before being killed in a shootout with police, apparently wrote in a blog post this week that life is "short and bitter."

But hours after his killing spree on Thursday, authorities were still piecing together a portrait of the former high school wrestler with a degree in engineering to explain why he may have turned into a cold-blooded killer.

The FBI raided Abdulazeez`s home in a leafy Chattanooga suburb and vowed to use every means possible to "determine the cause or the reason why he carried out this attack."

Abdulazeez -- a naturalized US citizen from Kuwait, according to multiple reports citing US officials -- appears to have maintained a blog, according to the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors extremist activity on social media.

In a post written Monday, he said that "this life is short and bitter" and that Muslims should not let "the opportunity to submit to allah... pass you by."

The blog also makes fleeting references to sacrifice and jihad, but a short excerpt released by SITE did not contain any overt evidence of radicalization or threats.A woman who attended Red Bank High School with Abdulazeez said he was a quiet, well-liked student.

"He was friendly, funny, kind," Kagan Wagner told the Chattanooga Times Free Press. "I never would have thought it would be him."

She added that his whole family seemed normal.

"They were your average Chattanooga family," Wagner said.

A high school yearbook quote which appears to have been written by Abdulazeez, cited by local media, reads: "My name causes national security alerts. What does yours do?"

He was on the wrestling team in high school, and the Chattanooga Times Free Press said a video posted on YouTube of a 2009 ultimate fighting competition does indeed show Abdulazeez.

"I mean, he seemed like the all-American kid," Abdulazeez`s mixed martial arts coach Scott Schrader told CNN, adding that he was "never loud, never boisterous, never got out of line."

Abdulazeez has been in trouble with the law recently. Local media published a mug shot of him after he was arrested for driving while under the influence in April.

He graduated from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga in 2012 with a degree in engineering.

His father, who shares his name, works for the city`s public works department where he was appointed as a "special policeman."

A Facebook page which appeared to belong to his mother -- and which AFP could not independently verify -- showed a cheerful photo of Abdulazeez smiling at his graduation as he hugs an elderly woman while draped in flowers and a Palestinian keffiyeh.

Another photo apparently shows him posing with his diploma in front of the US and Tennessee flags, while a third shows a cake with the words "Congratulations Mohammod Class of 2012."

His mother is from Kuwait and his father is from the West Bank, according to the Facebook page.

AFP
 
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Muslim Marine murderer's father 'sexually assaulted wife and beat his son' - and wanted to take second wife 'because it was allowed under Islamic law' | Daily Mail Online

EXCLUSIVE: Muslim Marine murderer's father 'sexually assaulted wife and beat his son' - and wanted to take second wife 'because it was allowed under Islamic law'
  • Divorce papers obtained by Daily Mail Online reveal Muhammad Youssuf Abdulazeez's father beat his wife - and his murderous son
  • Youssuf Saed Abdulazeez also told his wife of 28 years he was going to take a second wife as it was permitted under Islamic law
  • Papers show that his wife, Rasmia, made a series of allegations including that the father of five was sexually abusive
  • She wanted a restraining order against her husband, according to papers filed in Tennessee in 2009
 
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