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Last night I read this interesting rejoinder to colonel Harish Puri of the Indian army on the following site:
http://www.inewsit.com/articles/entry/You-Have-Got-Mail-Colonel-Puri-
Thought friends might like it, so sharing it



My dear Colonel Harish!

Before I proceed further, knowing my army chief very well as I did some basic courses with him and served at a couple of places, would like to enlighten you that he is a clear headed man who doesn’t squanders his time to read futile and ego-centered pieces, hence any such mail is filtered and dropped in some trash can. The News cared for your feelings not to be hurt, published it and I am replyin g it so that you are not discouraged either.

I am taking this opportunity to address you for a couple of reasons; first, while addressing Pakistan army’s chief, you excessively blew your trumpet and tried to make mockery of my army, and when I say my army that means the army I served for 24 years. The other reason to reply you is general Kayani’s hectic professional commitments which prevent him from indulging in useless and worthless stuff pinned on the wall by the empty minds. Let me make it very clear at the outset that your notions about your superiority are totally concocted and just an example of some psycho-syndrome. The earlier you do away with it the better it would be for you.

I am shocked and stunned to note that you met just one odd soldier (if at all you met him in Iraq, where God knows what he was doing and how that inopportune came across you) and you formed an opinion about the officer lot of Pakistan army and above all you considered him worth mentioning here in this esteemed paper which trusted you and expected you to produce something worth publishing. I met dozens of Indian soldiers (and officers) during my service days at the flag meetings and at other venues and always found them wishing for, the standard of Pakistan army but I always assumed it as an appreciation for my army.

I think you forgot to read ‘The Himalayan Blunder’ by your very own brigadier Dilvi or ‘The Top Brass’ by brigadier H S Sodhi, who has critically analysed the Indian military leadership. Or perhaps you live so deep among the fantasies that you don’t know even what colonel Prohit with the corroboration of his brother officers did at Maleguon during the most recent past. I suppose you haven’t heard that a word of criticism from your enemy should be taken as a citation. You call your army an equal opportunity army? Well, merely offering ‘equal opportunity’ is not sufficient. The most important thing is to provide the fair sex, a discrimination- and prejudice-free environment with immense amount of respect and cooperation by their male colleagues, otherwise bosses would keep making sexual advances against girls like fearful Flying Officer Anjali Gupta, who would remain on the run from pillar to post to save their honour. So please I request you to think twice before blowing your horn.

Unfortunately it only happened few days back that an American female student on a trip to your ‘heavenly’ country was raped by a bunch of sexually perverted six young Indians. I am sure you would have not dared to exploit the Swat Flogging video if you would have learnt about this shameful incident before that. Otherwise also you will bear with me that it happens only in India that the poor Dalit girls are forced to run naked on full moon nights and are forced into the Devdasi system of prostitution. Sarita Bai of Kotpuli village was raped by a custodian of the law and in other incidents females are gang-raped at religious places like a temple of Jodhpur, a couple of years back. ‘More women are killed or injured in sexual assault than through terrorism. Yet, how often have you seen the issue debated in parliament or figuring on political agendas? Leading activist Brinda Karat told the Times of India. Angry residents in Bombay also took to the streets after a drunken policeman raped a girl in daylight on a beachfront boulevard in the city’. It’s a Reuters report of May 14, 2005 from New Delhi and not my story about meeting a Pakistani soldier in the streets of Iraq.

Since we were discussing the ‘mutual army affairs’ so I would not like to lose my sleep on Indian social and societal affairs. Regarding your idea of the Indian officers leading me and my colleagues, well colonel you may call it insubordination but I, being a committed and motivated soldier would bluntly refuse to serve under some disgruntle fellow who is involved in a colleagues rape case or drug trafficking as a part of the UN peace keeping force abroad.

When you talk about the pictures of surrender then don’t forget to confess about those plunders which Indian forces carried out there and also those long hatched conspiracies sponsored by the Indian army and her forerunner RAW. Please don’t remind us about the East Pakistan Fall, as we have not forgotten that for a moment and we also know that how that happened.

Colonel! Now while coming to the main point, I would not hesitate to tell you that in your letter you were unable to hide your fears about Taliban invading India but at the same time you expect Pakistan to fight the battle for your survival. I wish you would have thought of that in 1971 when you were meddling in Pakistan’s affairs openly. My army chief is quite clear about his priorities and he knows how to handle and when to tackle his internal militancy problem. He is working as a loyal team member of the government who trusts him and has thrown her weight behind him. For that he doesn’t need any adversary advise and that too from a signaler who is not good for anything more than a ‘wilco & over’.

Colonel! How about putting our respective houses in order and stop dreaming about the dismemberment of each other in six months or in a year’s time? You are pinning your hopes on the New York Times while I have the reasons to believe the same in your case especially when minimum 50 independence movements are running inside India out of which at least 18 are full fledge insurgency movements, so better forget it.

You are living at Pune where a great art academy is situated. Instead of wasting your time for such activities why don’t you join some cultural troupe to spread a word of love (and not hatred)? Just think over it, because it’s a sincere neighbourly advice and a strong will to do that plus an academy, both are within your reach.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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u spoke my heart major dad... The sole purpose of this piece of writing seems to stimulate the liberal brigade within Pakistan, tarnish the image of the army and overturn Swat peace deal which would never happen Mr. Col…. Not before dismemberence of India at least where dozens of liberation movements and insurgencies are creating havoc. Just try n do something for ur own country if u really want to save the region rather tittle-tattle about Pakistan and cook flogging stories... it might be worthwhile... lollzzz:rofl:
all the best :pakistan::pakistan::pakistan:
 
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Last night I read this interesting rejoinder to colonel Harish Puri of the Indian army on the following site:
You Have Got Mail [Colonel Puri] | South & Central Asia | World News
Thought friends might like it, so sharing it



My dear Colonel Harish!

Before I proceed further, knowing my army chief very well as I did some basic courses with him and served at a couple of places, would like to enlighten you that he is a clear headed man who doesn’t squanders his time to read futile and ego-centered pieces, hence any such mail is filtered and dropped in some trash can. The News cared for your feelings not to be hurt, published it and I am replyin g it so that you are not discouraged either.

I am taking this opportunity to address you for a couple of reasons; first, while addressing Pakistan army’s chief, you excessively blew your trumpet and tried to make mockery of my army, and when I say my army that means the army I served for 24 years. The other reason to reply you is general Kayani’s hectic professional commitments which prevent him from indulging in useless and worthless stuff pinned on the wall by the empty minds. Let me make it very clear at the outset that your notions about your superiority are totally concocted and just an example of some psycho-syndrome. The earlier you do away with it the better it would be for you.

I am shocked and stunned to note that you met just one odd soldier (if at all you met him in Iraq, where God knows what he was doing and how that inopportune came across you) and you formed an opinion about the officer lot of Pakistan army and above all you considered him worth mentioning here in this esteemed paper which trusted you and expected you to produce something worth publishing. I met dozens of Indian soldiers (and officers) during my service days at the flag meetings and at other venues and always found them wishing for, the standard of Pakistan army but I always assumed it as an appreciation for my army.

I think you forgot to read ‘The Himalayan Blunder’ by your very own brigadier Dilvi or ‘The Top Brass’ by brigadier H S Sodhi, who has critically analysed the Indian military leadership. Or perhaps you live so deep among the fantasies that you don’t know even what colonel Prohit with the corroboration of his brother officers did at Maleguon during the most recent past. I suppose you haven’t heard that a word of criticism from your enemy should be taken as a citation. You call your army an equal opportunity army? Well, merely offering ‘equal opportunity’ is not sufficient. The most important thing is to provide the fair sex, a discrimination- and prejudice-free environment with immense amount of respect and cooperation by their male colleagues, otherwise bosses would keep making sexual advances against girls like fearful Flying Officer Anjali Gupta, who would remain on the run from pillar to post to save their honour. So please I request you to think twice before blowing your horn.

Unfortunately it only happened few days back that an American female student on a trip to your ‘heavenly’ country was raped by a bunch of sexually perverted six young Indians. I am sure you would have not dared to exploit the Swat Flogging video if you would have learnt about this shameful incident before that. Otherwise also you will bear with me that it happens only in India that the poor Dalit girls are forced to run naked on full moon nights and are forced into the Devdasi system of prostitution. Sarita Bai of Kotpuli village was raped by a custodian of the law and in other incidents females are gang-raped at religious places like a temple of Jodhpur, a couple of years back. ‘More women are killed or injured in sexual assault than through terrorism. Yet, how often have you seen the issue debated in parliament or figuring on political agendas? Leading activist Brinda Karat told the Times of India. Angry residents in Bombay also took to the streets after a drunken policeman raped a girl in daylight on a beachfront boulevard in the city’. It’s a Reuters report of May 14, 2005 from New Delhi and not my story about meeting a Pakistani soldier in the streets of Iraq.

Since we were discussing the ‘mutual army affairs’ so I would not like to lose my sleep on Indian social and societal affairs. Regarding your idea of the Indian officers leading me and my colleagues, well colonel you may call it insubordination but I, being a committed and motivated soldier would bluntly refuse to serve under some disgruntle fellow who is involved in a colleagues rape case or drug trafficking as a part of the UN peace keeping force abroad.

When you talk about the pictures of surrender then don’t forget to confess about those plunders which Indian forces carried out there and also those long hatched conspiracies sponsored by the Indian army and her forerunner RAW. Please don’t remind us about the East Pakistan Fall, as we have not forgotten that for a moment and we also know that how that happened.

Colonel! Now while coming to the main point, I would not hesitate to tell you that in your letter you were unable to hide your fears about Taliban invading India but at the same time you expect Pakistan to fight the battle for your survival. I wish you would have thought of that in 1971 when you were meddling in Pakistan’s affairs openly. My army chief is quite clear about his priorities and he knows how to handle and when to tackle his internal militancy problem. He is working as a loyal team member of the government who trusts him and has thrown her weight behind him. For that he doesn’t need any adversary advise and that too from a signaler who is not good for anything more than a ‘wilco & over’.

Colonel! How about putting our respective houses in order and stop dreaming about the dismemberment of each other in six months or in a year’s time? You are pinning your hopes on the New York Times while I have the reasons to believe the same in your case especially when minimum 50 independence movements are running inside India out of which at least 18 are full fledge insurgency movements, so better forget it.

You are living at Pune where a great art academy is situated. Instead of wasting your time for such activities why don’t you join some cultural troupe to spread a word of love (and not hatred)? Just think over it, because it’s a sincere neighbourly advice and a strong will to do that plus an academy, both are within your reach.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I take exception to the approach by the officer here.

Even if I grant him the fact that India is the most horrible, disgusting place on Earth (only making a point here, guys), what's that got to do with the FACT that Nizam-e-Adal is nothing short of a surrender.

We were and still are looking up to the army to go in and clean up the ***** from Swat, the land that the Army is supposed to protect, the Pakistani land, our land.

This wasn't really an answer. I understand his sentiments were running high because the criticism came from an Indian counterpart, and the way the Indian said it was a little condescending, but nonetheless, the point about ceding Pakistani territory to foreigners is something all Pakistanis should question.
 
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The reply is as bad as the first letter. A baseless counter accusation on another baseless accusation. I wish you people had ignored it.

Basially I do not understand why the letter is published in Pak media in the first place. I never saw anything constructive in the letter anyway (I do not see asking PA to intervene by itself to be constructive, even though the cause of eliminating Taliban may be justified).
 
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Last night I read this interesting rejoinder to colonel Harish Puri of the Indian army on the following site:
You Have Got Mail [Colonel Puri] | South & Central Asia | World News
Thought friends might like it, so sharing it



My dear Colonel Harish!

Before I proceed further, knowing my army chief very well as I did some basic courses with him and served at a couple of places, would like to enlighten you that he is a clear headed man who doesn’t squanders his time to read futile and ego-centered pieces, hence any such mail is filtered and dropped in some trash can. The News cared for your feelings not to be hurt, published it and I am replyin g it so that you are not discouraged either.

I am taking this opportunity to address you for a couple of reasons; first, while addressing Pakistan army’s chief, you excessively blew your trumpet and tried to make mockery of my army, and when I say my army that means the army I served for 24 years. The other reason to reply you is general Kayani’s hectic professional commitments which prevent him from indulging in useless and worthless stuff pinned on the wall by the empty minds. Let me make it very clear at the outset that your notions about your superiority are totally concocted and just an example of some psycho-syndrome. The earlier you do away with it the better it would be for you.

I am shocked and stunned to note that you met just one odd soldier (if at all you met him in Iraq, where God knows what he was doing and how that inopportune came across you) and you formed an opinion about the officer lot of Pakistan army and above all you considered him worth mentioning here in this esteemed paper which trusted you and expected you to produce something worth publishing. I met dozens of Indian soldiers (and officers) during my service days at the flag meetings and at other venues and always found them wishing for, the standard of Pakistan army but I always assumed it as an appreciation for my army.

I think you forgot to read ‘The Himalayan Blunder’ by your very own brigadier Dilvi or ‘The Top Brass’ by brigadier H S Sodhi, who has critically analysed the Indian military leadership. Or perhaps you live so deep among the fantasies that you don’t know even what colonel Prohit with the corroboration of his brother officers did at Maleguon during the most recent past. I suppose you haven’t heard that a word of criticism from your enemy should be taken as a citation. You call your army an equal opportunity army? Well, merely offering ‘equal opportunity’ is not sufficient. The most important thing is to provide the fair sex, a discrimination- and prejudice-free environment with immense amount of respect and cooperation by their male colleagues, otherwise bosses would keep making sexual advances against girls like fearful Flying Officer Anjali Gupta, who would remain on the run from pillar to post to save their honour. So please I request you to think twice before blowing your horn.

Unfortunately it only happened few days back that an American female student on a trip to your ‘heavenly’ country was raped by a bunch of sexually perverted six young Indians. I am sure you would have not dared to exploit the Swat Flogging video if you would have learnt about this shameful incident before that. Otherwise also you will bear with me that it happens only in India that the poor Dalit girls are forced to run naked on full moon nights and are forced into the Devdasi system of prostitution. Sarita Bai of Kotpuli village was raped by a custodian of the law and in other incidents females are gang-raped at religious places like a temple of Jodhpur, a couple of years back. ‘More women are killed or injured in sexual assault than through terrorism. Yet, how often have you seen the issue debated in parliament or figuring on political agendas? Leading activist Brinda Karat told the Times of India. Angry residents in Bombay also took to the streets after a drunken policeman raped a girl in daylight on a beachfront boulevard in the city’. It’s a Reuters report of May 14, 2005 from New Delhi and not my story about meeting a Pakistani soldier in the streets of Iraq.

Since we were discussing the ‘mutual army affairs’ so I would not like to lose my sleep on Indian social and societal affairs. Regarding your idea of the Indian officers leading me and my colleagues, well colonel you may call it insubordination but I, being a committed and motivated soldier would bluntly refuse to serve under some disgruntle fellow who is involved in a colleagues rape case or drug trafficking as a part of the UN peace keeping force abroad.

When you talk about the pictures of surrender then don’t forget to confess about those plunders which Indian forces carried out there and also those long hatched conspiracies sponsored by the Indian army and her forerunner RAW. Please don’t remind us about the East Pakistan Fall, as we have not forgotten that for a moment and we also know that how that happened.

Colonel! Now while coming to the main point, I would not hesitate to tell you that in your letter you were unable to hide your fears about Taliban invading India but at the same time you expect Pakistan to fight the battle for your survival. I wish you would have thought of that in 1971 when you were meddling in Pakistan’s affairs openly. My army chief is quite clear about his priorities and he knows how to handle and when to tackle his internal militancy problem. He is working as a loyal team member of the government who trusts him and has thrown her weight behind him. For that he doesn’t need any adversary advise and that too from a signaler who is not good for anything more than a ‘wilco & over’.

Colonel! How about putting our respective houses in order and stop dreaming about the dismemberment of each other in six months or in a year’s time? You are pinning your hopes on the New York Times while I have the reasons to believe the same in your case especially when minimum 50 independence movements are running inside India out of which at least 18 are full fledge insurgency movements, so better forget it.

You are living at Pune where a great art academy is situated. Instead of wasting your time for such activities why don’t you join some cultural troupe to spread a word of love (and not hatred)? Just think over it, because it’s a sincere neighbourly advice and a strong will to do that plus an academy, both are within your reach.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

This is not quite credible, as the source you cite is an opinion website, not a news agency.

This how the website describes itself:
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For what he is worth,
he ignored the most important subject Swat in his reply.

If some Pakistani army man had written the same letter as Harish Puri did excluding his personal experiences(in Iraq witha soldier), probably the letter would have carried some weight in minds of people. Actually that would have been welcomed by Pakistanis who are worried about Taliban.
 
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Last night I read this interesting rejoinder to colonel Harish Puri of the Indian army on the following site:
You Have Got Mail [Colonel Puri] | South & Central Asia | World News
Thought friends might like it, so sharing it



My dear Colonel Harish!

Before I proceed further, knowing my army chief very well as I did some basic courses with him and served at a couple of places, would like to enlighten you that he is a clear headed man who doesn’t squanders his time to read futile and ego-centered pieces, hence any such mail is filtered and dropped in some trash can. The News cared for your feelings not to be hurt, published it and I am replyin g it so that you are not discouraged either.

I am taking this opportunity to address you for a couple of reasons; first, while addressing Pakistan army’s chief, you excessively blew your trumpet and tried to make mockery of my army, and when I say my army that means the army I served for 24 years. The other reason to reply you is general Kayani’s hectic professional commitments which prevent him from indulging in useless and worthless stuff pinned on the wall by the empty minds. Let me make it very clear at the outset that your notions about your superiority are totally concocted and just an example of some psycho-syndrome. The earlier you do away with it the better it would be for you.

I am shocked and stunned to note that you met just one odd soldier (if at all you met him in Iraq, where God knows what he was doing and how that inopportune came across you) and you formed an opinion about the officer lot of Pakistan army and above all you considered him worth mentioning here in this esteemed paper which trusted you and expected you to produce something worth publishing. I met dozens of Indian soldiers (and officers) during my service days at the flag meetings and at other venues and always found them wishing for, the standard of Pakistan army but I always assumed it as an appreciation for my army.

I think you forgot to read ‘The Himalayan Blunder’ by your very own brigadier Dilvi or ‘The Top Brass’ by brigadier H S Sodhi, who has critically analysed the Indian military leadership. Or perhaps you live so deep among the fantasies that you don’t know even what colonel Prohit with the corroboration of his brother officers did at Maleguon during the most recent past. I suppose you haven’t heard that a word of criticism from your enemy should be taken as a citation. You call your army an equal opportunity army? Well, merely offering ‘equal opportunity’ is not sufficient. The most important thing is to provide the fair sex, a discrimination- and prejudice-free environment with immense amount of respect and cooperation by their male colleagues, otherwise bosses would keep making sexual advances against girls like fearful Flying Officer Anjali Gupta, who would remain on the run from pillar to post to save their honour. So please I request you to think twice before blowing your horn.

Unfortunately it only happened few days back that an American female student on a trip to your ‘heavenly’ country was raped by a bunch of sexually perverted six young Indians. I am sure you would have not dared to exploit the Swat Flogging video if you would have learnt about this shameful incident before that. Otherwise also you will bear with me that it happens only in India that the poor Dalit girls are forced to run naked on full moon nights and are forced into the Devdasi system of prostitution. Sarita Bai of Kotpuli village was raped by a custodian of the law and in other incidents females are gang-raped at religious places like a temple of Jodhpur, a couple of years back. ‘More women are killed or injured in sexual assault than through terrorism. Yet, how often have you seen the issue debated in parliament or figuring on political agendas? Leading activist Brinda Karat told the Times of India. Angry residents in Bombay also took to the streets after a drunken policeman raped a girl in daylight on a beachfront boulevard in the city’. It’s a Reuters report of May 14, 2005 from New Delhi and not my story about meeting a Pakistani soldier in the streets of Iraq.

Since we were discussing the ‘mutual army affairs’ so I would not like to lose my sleep on Indian social and societal affairs. Regarding your idea of the Indian officers leading me and my colleagues, well colonel you may call it insubordination but I, being a committed and motivated soldier would bluntly refuse to serve under some disgruntle fellow who is involved in a colleagues rape case or drug trafficking as a part of the UN peace keeping force abroad.

When you talk about the pictures of surrender then don’t forget to confess about those plunders which Indian forces carried out there and also those long hatched conspiracies sponsored by the Indian army and her forerunner RAW. Please don’t remind us about the East Pakistan Fall, as we have not forgotten that for a moment and we also know that how that happened.

Colonel! Now while coming to the main point, I would not hesitate to tell you that in your letter you were unable to hide your fears about Taliban invading India but at the same time you expect Pakistan to fight the battle for your survival. I wish you would have thought of that in 1971 when you were meddling in Pakistan’s affairs openly. My army chief is quite clear about his priorities and he knows how to handle and when to tackle his internal militancy problem. He is working as a loyal team member of the government who trusts him and has thrown her weight behind him. For that he doesn’t need any adversary advise and that too from a signaler who is not good for anything more than a ‘wilco & over’.

Colonel! How about putting our respective houses in order and stop dreaming about the dismemberment of each other in six months or in a year’s time? You are pinning your hopes on the New York Times while I have the reasons to believe the same in your case especially when minimum 50 independence movements are running inside India out of which at least 18 are full fledge insurgency movements, so better forget it.

You are living at Pune where a great art academy is situated. Instead of wasting your time for such activities why don’t you join some cultural troupe to spread a word of love (and not hatred)? Just think over it, because it’s a sincere neighbourly advice and a strong will to do that plus an academy, both are within your reach.

A very lovely reply. It was about time Indian colonel was told to take the blinds off his eyes and the amount of hatred that he expressed in his letter was nothing short of a trash, a well very deserving reply. Hope it helps the colonel and Indians to clear their minds a bit before writing BS about Pakistan and how Pakistan should or should not tackle its problems.
 
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It suggests to me if communications between senior "staff officers" on both sides of the borders are being leaked into the public media, then neither outfit is as professional as it likes to think it is.

Standing orders for OPSEC & PERSEC and communication with the media breached - or a pair of arm chair generals taking in the infinitely gullible media?
 
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I don't think we should worry about his letter.General Kiyani probably does not even have enough time to read the stupid letter.
 
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I don't think we should worry about his letter.General Kiyani probably does not even have enough time to read the stupid letter.

What exactly is he busy Doing?
That is one of the questions raised in the letter. Kayani may never read the letter leave alone reply it buy I think lots of Pakistanis are asking the same questions(even on this forum). Again is the General too busy to reply to them as well?

Where is all his attention diverted to? To the Eastern Border waiting for an Indian offensive which never came in last 60 odd years.
 
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Everyone doesn’t behave in a way that you slap on one cheek and he offers you the other. I think the officer who replied to Puri believes in the same theory. The only problem is that why the Indians are having growling for what all is happening in Swat. It’s none of their business. Has anyone ever suggested them to tackle the deplorable affairs of Ahmedabad, Jharkhand, Chhatisgardh, Assam, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Bodoland, UP (yes an uprising is their also) and many other provinces?
Instead of trying to teach Pakistanis the ethics why the Indians don’t follow the same? What the brutal Indian forces are doing in Kashmir is enough to put the 100,000 million Indian heads in shame. So why don’t our neighbours concentrate on cleaning their own mess instead of peeping over neighbour’s wall and trying to show some useless concern?


PS: you are welcome my friends abdulrafi, IceCold and Mirage2000
 
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Everyone doesn’t behave in a way that you slap on one cheek and he offers you the other. I think the officer who replied to Puri believes in the same theory. The only problem is that why the Indians are having growling for what all is happening in Swat. It’s none of their business. Has anyone ever suggested them to tackle the deplorable affairs of Ahmedabad, Jharkhand, Chhatisgardh, Assam, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Bodoland, UP (yes an uprising is their also) and many other provinces?
Instead of trying to teach Pakistanis the ethics why the Indians don’t follow the same? What the brutal Indian forces are doing in Kashmir is enough to put the 100,000 million Indian heads in shame. So why don’t our neighbours concentrate on cleaning their own mess instead of peeping over neighbour’s wall and trying to show some useless concern?


PS: you are welcome my friends abdulrafi, IceCold and Mirage2000
 
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The only problem is that why the Indians are having growling for what all is happening in Swat. It’s none of their business. Has anyone ever suggested them to tackle the deplorable affairs of Ahmedabad, Jharkhand, Chhatisgardh, Assam, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Bodoland, UP (yes an uprising is their also) and many other provinces?
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Ask your conscience if you are justified in making such remarks. Taleban, which is active in SWAT is a real threat to India as well. The blessing in disguise for India is that Pakistan itself is a big enough military power capable of takeing the Taliban on. However the way things are going (espacially in the political spectrum), people are sceptical to say the least.

However the other issues in India that you have mentioned are a problems to India for sure, but not to the rest of the world. Again don't think that this is enough reason for India not to act on these problems.

We cannot compare the impact that these two issues have on the parties that are not involved in these conflicts.

Instead of trying to teach Pakistanis the ethics why the Indians don’t follow the same? What the brutal Indian forces are doing in Kashmir is enough to put the 100,000 million Indian heads in shame. So why don’t our neighbours concentrate on cleaning their own mess instead of peeping over neighbour’s wall and trying to show some useless concern?

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If I think of what IA has so far achieved as a whole in J&K (not some individual incidents), it bloats my chest with pride. Make no mistake about it, most of the billion plus Indians feel so. This is not to say that we approve every thing that has been done by everybody in IA. There have been some unfortunate and shameful incidents as well that could have been avoided. We are definitely responsible for them, and will never run away from them.

Only god can do all right and no wrong. Neither Indian nor Pakistahnis are gods.
 
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Has anyone ever suggested them to tackle the deplorable affairs of Ahmedabad, Jharkhand, Chhatisgardh, Assam, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Bodoland, UP (yes an uprising is their also) and many other provinces?
...and in which of these provinces, have the security forces signed a peace deal with the so called insurgents ?

To quote Mr muse, you missed the forest to hit the tree.
 
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I take exception to the approach by the officer here.

Even if I grant him the fact that India is the most horrible, disgusting place on Earth (only making a point here, guys), what's that got to do with the FACT that Nizam-e-Adal is nothing short of a surrender.

We were and still are looking up to the army to go in and clean up the ***** from Swat, the land that the Army is supposed to protect, the Pakistani land, our land.

This wasn't really an answer. I understand his sentiments were running high because the criticism came from an Indian counterpart, and the way the Indian said it was a little condescending, but nonetheless, the point about ceding Pakistani territory to foreigners is something all Pakistanis should question.
Well Asim, with due respect i think you and others need to understand the working of any Army.

Is it that you believe that an Army is supposed to take unilateral decisions?

Or is it that the military makes plans that are independent of political patronage?

Ok, most will argue that this had been happening atleast in Pakistan previously, but this fight with terror is not the issue that the military is handling at its own.

Why you always skip the political decision making process that is part and parcel of every military operation?

Lal Mosque was slapped on the Army as if it was an act undertaken by Corps Commander Pindi! Yes the Musharraf was the sitting President at the time, but does it mean that the Army went inside just because it was itching to consume its old ammunition lots?

The Army came back from Swat because it was a political decision, if you decide to criticize the military for it please do so, but it's also an humble request not to blame everything sh!t on the military, try to keep in view the political scenario also.

No ones thinks that these Talibans and other separatist/terrorist movements within the country are justified and they are required to handled properly (hard handedly to some extent), but i think many have forgotten that a 'dictator' is no more in command of this country.

Our beloved democracy is back on track and steering "well"!

So everything that happens now is due to our weak, short sighted and ever fluctuating governmental policies.
 
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