Replacement of Pakistan Army's G-3 Rifles.

[asker]

HK 416 (3000 dollars) for special forces and m4( 968 dollars) for other army units I suggest

 

[Superboy]

I vote QBZ-95. Very deadly. 5.8 by 42 is new and lethal. HK-417 IMO lacks muzzle velocity. Any other good choice?

 

[Superboy]

Heckler & Koch HK417 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Path-Finder]

FN SCAR 7.62x51

 

[Red Spinifex]

The answer is simple. Don't replace the hard-hitting 7.62mm NATO G3 rifle for some trifling peashooter in 5.56mm.

 

[fatman17]

This topic has been discussed previously in detail. Why start it again. Close please.

 

[Imran Khan]

every year pdf try to change it lolzzz?

 

[Colt-4-1]

I vote for the HK417 but as far as my knowledge goes, Army is inducting the Norinco Type 56...

 

[Xn Jin]

the gun in my display

 

[Manticore]

Moved and added 3 more poll options

 

[Manticore]

 

[Amaa'n]

these should be enough to keep some of your calm for next few months --- G-3 is old but not ineffective

 

[senses]

^ Damn at first i was like wow then i realized they are G3 rifiles, damn those accessories make it look like a total badass.

 

[aaqib khan pakistani]

Pak army should change to h&k 417 instead of g3 and fn scar for ssg and other special forces because these weapons are hell good.

 

[Saifullah]

Well many guys are asking to change the Army's main Weapon. So lets compare with given Replacements:

Name HKG3 HK417 SCAR-H Standard MKEK MPT76

Weight 4.1 kg (9.04 lb) (G3A3) 4.400 kg (9.70 lb) 3.58 kg (7.9 lb) 4.1 kg (9.0 lb)
Length 1,025 mm (40.4 in) (G3A3) 994 mm (39.1 in) 1,067 mm (42.0 in) 920 mm (36 in)
Barrel 450 mm (17.7 in) 419 mm (16.5 in) 400 mm (16 in) 410 mm (16 in)

Note: Weight of Rifles are without mag.

Conclusion :
1- All are above 4KG except Scar-H cause of plastic body which could end up being unreliable in battle field.
2- Over all Length of all the rifles are same.
3- G3 have the most barrel length, its good and bad. Most barrel length means better accuracy and i can bet on that G3 is very very very accurate wep and all the others may be like the same or less.
4- G3 is most reliable Wep in these given replacement. its a Fact!!!
5- Kick is almost same with all of them, all uncontrollable for untrained.

So what are we gona get by replacing the Main battle rifle by any of these. Nothing

Personal Wishes:
1- POF should come with some polymer based handguard which should like FN- ScarH handguard, it will be easy to replace, no need to change the rifle, just push pin and change the handguard and use some light weight smaller Picatinny rail on top like Norwegian Army AG3(their G3 Variant) and don't use retractable stock its just gona increase the weight nothing else.
2- Barrel length should be decreased with good accuracy at 400~500 meters, which also reduce the weight.
3- Every one should be given ACOG 4x or similar and 2 in 1 hand grip/stand.
4- 2 or 3 round burst option, that will be very nice!!!

these upgrades should be enough for every thing CQB and Conventional.

This the best configuration if i had choose and Pakistan Army should stick to the HKG3 and 7.62NATO.

As far as Siachin is concerned, i don't know how that happened because Germany, Turkey, Argentine,Greeks,Norwegian used it in Extreme cold conditions it must be some thing with oil used for cleaning or something else but not the rifle.

Future:
POF should develop Roller-delayed blowback for 7.62x39 and 6.8 with some improvements which reduce the weight, recoil and new Tofi(ammo) for Handguns and MP5 type weapon which is good enough to penetrate the Kevlar but also don't have over penetration. because 7.62x39 in Roller-delayed blowback will be very accurate as compared to AK and will be almost as reliable as AK (BTW known 7.62x39 Inaccuracy mostly comes from the AK), and all should have similar externals like handguard etc just change barrel etc and done.

This is my wish list

After this Dust settle down in our country, conventional Rifle will be more like a good idea, because most engagements in Sub continent will beyond 250 meters or so mostly. cause we have Plains of Punjab, Desert of Sindh and the Siachin. G3 will very very well in conflict. The range, the power, the accuracy, the penetration level and reliability it provides is No comparable with any other rifles and if Pakistan gives every one ACOG 4x man that will be just great!!!. As i have talked to many retired soldiers, all of them said they were train pick on target shouts with Iron sight till 300m.