Religious clashes erupt in India

[Vinod2070]

Actually it suits many within the BJP too to have to depend on the allies.

Helps them to sidetrack what is anyway not possible to achieve. Just blame it on the coalition dharma.

 

[Flintlock]

Also, try muzzling the media.

The days of Indira Gandhi are over. No government can afford to hamper economic growth by overstepping its mandate. The Industrialist lobby - Tatas, Reliance etc. are too strong.

 

[Khalsa]

The Judiciary is pretty damn hard to manipulate. If you don't understand why, then take my word for it.

Armed forces deployment has nothing to do with the constitution.

Oh and please do get started with the bureaucracy.

I think I have some trust in supreme court and that is prpbably my last hope. Armed forces have nothing to do withc contitution but politics does. Once the bill is passed and becomes law, there is not much any body could do.

 

[shrivatsa]

The media has become so vigilant these days nothing escapes them and regarding bjp day by day there policies are getting softer.

 

[Khalsa]

Also, try muzzling the media.

The days of Indira Gandhi are over. No government can afford to hamper economic growth by overstepping its mandate. The Industrialist lobby - Tatas, Reliance etc. are too strong.

History lesson.

Gujrat riots!!!

 

[Vinod2070]

Khalsa what exactly are you trying to claim?

India has a much better communal situation than few decades back when riots were an annual feature.

Now people are too much pre-occupied with economic matters. It normally takes a big event to stoke the fires. Insulated, India is not from these fires.

 

[Khalsa]

Khalsa what exactly are you trying to claim?

India has a much better communal situation than few decades back when riots were an annual feature.

Now people are too much pre-occupied with economic matters. It normally takes a big event to stoke the fires. Insulated, India is not from these fires.

I see a great threat to our great country and lot people are falling in thier trap. Our contry's streangth is in its secularism and some people are trying take that away while claiming that they are more patriot. Look at the patterns, you will see similarities between Nazis and RSS idology.
History books are being changed, look at the language being used and scariest of all is that I see no one other then minorities speaking against them. RSS sympthsiers are being posted at the key govrnment posts including military. If RSS is so concerned about the country's safety why not go fight in Kashmir or north eastern states?

 

[Flintlock]

^^^Dude trust me, there are too many cooks in India spoiling the broth for the overall status quo to change in the immediate future.

P.S...what information do you have about RSS sympathizers being placed in the military?

The real battle is being played out in the villages, as it always has.

 

[Vinod2070]

I see a great threat to our great country and lot people are falling in thier trap. Our contry's streangth is in its secularism and some people are trying take that away while claiming that they are more patriot. Look at the patterns, you will see similarities between Nazis and RSS idology.
History books are being changed, look at the language being used and scariest of all is that I see no one other then minorities speaking against them. RSS sympthsiers are being posted at the key govrnment posts including military. If RSS is so concerned about the country's safety why not go fight in Kashmir or north eastern states?

Kahlsa, I agree with you that India needs to remain secular. That is our strength.

I don't agree with the other parts of your post. You seem to have been influenced by some propaganda videos. Are you in India or outside?

If you are in India, you can see for yourself the reality than depend on the kind of obviously motivated videos you posted.

 

[Flintlock]

Do you know what Hindutva is?

It is nothing but a common Hindu identity cutting across language, regional and caste barriers.

Till the arrival of Hindutva, there were only 3 types of identities in India:

1.The Pan-Indian secular identity which grabbed power after Independence. These people made a small but powerful minority.
2. The regional language based identities
3. The caste/tribal identities which were the strongest, but were obviously inherently incapable of capturing political power.

 

[Khalsa]

Do you know what Hindutva is?

It is nothing but a common Hindu identity cutting across language, regional and caste barriers.

Till the arrival of Hindutva, there were only 3 types of identities in India:

1.The Pan-Indian secular identity which grabbed power after Independence. These people made a small but powerful minority.
2. The regional language based identities
3. The caste/tribal identities which were the strongest, but were obviously inherently incapable of capturing political power.

I know what Hindutva is and I dont have any issues with that but do you think its right impose Hindutva on other religions?

 

[Khalsa]

Kahlsa, I agree with you that India needs to remain secular. That is our strength.

I don't agree with the other parts of your post. You seem to have been influenced by some propaganda videos. Are you in India or outside?

If you are in India, you can see for yourself the reality than depend on the kind of obviously motivated videos you posted.

These videos are not edited and ONE video atleast is done by well respected news organization. I am not influenced by some propaganda. This is a real issue and I cant find any Hindu person to discuss with. I have lived in India for 17 years and do travel back once a while and believe me I dont have any hidden agenda against Hindus. I am just a guy who is standing on the other side of the road and trying tell that you might not be seeing from the other side or the road. (Majority-Minority)

 

[Flintlock]

I know what Hindutva is and I dont have any issues with that but do you think its right impose Hindutva on other religions?

The question isn't whether its right or wrong. Its a reality and we had better learn to deal with it.

Had the secular education system worked, we could have jumped straight to secular identity

However, that didn't happen and we are stuck with a pan-Hindu identity that is looked upon with contempt by the secular upper-classes.

The best option is to encourage a more benign form of the ideology rather than dismiss/ ignore it and try to accommodate it within the secular framework of the country.

Hindutva has certain advantages - Gujarat is an example of this. For the first time since independence, the government machinery of a state is actually functioning.

I understand your fears that it might jeopardize India's secular character, but I don't think this is likely to happen anytime soon.
By the time the movement gathers enough support across the country, it would have changed itself with its new crop of leaders born in post-Independence rather than pre-Independence India.

 

[Khalsa]

But you still didn't answer my questions regarding imposing Hindutva on other religion?

 

[Flintlock]

But you still didn't answer my questions regarding imposing Hindutva on other religion?

Yes I have.