Reliance Defence to Set up R&D Center for Aerospace Technology

[sathya]

I know you guys dont like this company, and you guys give good reasons, but -

..:: India Strategic ::. Defence Industry: Anil Ambani's Reliance Infra Acquires Pipavav Defence

Reliance Defence ties up with UAE’s ADSB to build naval ships - Livemint

Reliance Defence, Russia’s United Shipbuilding sign Rs 66,000 cr strategic pact | The Indian Express

HEADLINE: Reliance Defence & Emirates Defence Industries Co sign MoU for strategic partnership in defence sector | Business Standard News

Reliance Defence to build new shipyard for Indian submarines - UPI.com

Reliance applies for more defence industry licences | IHS Jane's 360

Reliance Group plans $1bn aerospace park - Times of India

Madhya Pradesh government greenlights Reliance Group's defence, aerospace parks - The Economic Times

Reliance Defence to set up R&D centre for aerospace tech - Times of India

India's Reliance and Russia's Almaz-Antey to collaborate on missile systems | IHS Jane's 360

From recent posturing, it's obvious they're not just trying to be some-what a player in the defence industry, they're clearly aiming to be one of the best, and in for the long haul

Unless their venture into aero and defence completely goes bust in their face, they're going to be a serious player in not even 20 years time, I feel.

That's exactly what's worrying ...

Public can just ignore their products if it's not worth it.
Given their political back up, quality products from good companies may have to suffer in defence sector

Let's say Tata kestrel vs Reliance Mustrel
Who will win ?

Navy might have priorities , how long will it take reliance to convince MOD and navy to buy more of their products ?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

That's exactly what's worrying ...

Public can just ignore their products if it's not worth it.
Given their political back up, quality products from good companies may have to suffer in defence sector

Let's say Tata kestrel vs Reliance Mustrel
Who will win ?

Navy might have priorities , how long will it take reliance to convince MOD and navy to buy more of their products ?

The better product should win. But you raise the point of a military industrial complex. You can bet TATAs. L&Ts, etc. will be playing those games as well, maybe not as crony.

It's going to be a shift of outside lobbies from France, Russia, etc. manipulating, to actual Indian private firms. I honestly think this is unavoidable as their slice of the pie grows.

 

[sathya]

The better product should win. But you raise the point of a military industrial complex. You can bet TATAs. L&Ts, etc. will be playing those games as well, maybe not as crony.

It's going to be a shift of outside lobbies from France, Russia, etc. manipulating, to actual Indian private firms. I honestly think this is unavoidable as their slice of the pie grows.

I agree to your point that shift is from external to internal, which itself is a betterment.
Money stays in India .

Just I read in some other thread , about why indian products don't have quality make,
sub vendors are not much with quality make it seems..

Damn it, I am getting a strong thoughts of doing something..

 

[jetray]

You can bet TATAs

Really, guess what happened when tatas wanted to start an airline ? They simply got muzzled out. The airlines faced a lot of opposition from existing players in market like jet airways.

 

[illusion8]

That's exactly what's worrying ...

Public can just ignore their products if it's not worth it.
Given their political back up, quality products from good companies may have to suffer in defence sector

Let's say Tata kestrel vs Reliance Mustrel
Who will win ?

Navy might have priorities , how long will it take reliance to convince MOD and navy to buy more of their products ?

Maybe defense does need the marwari / gujarati touch after all. .

I remember I used to pay 16 rs for outgoing mobile calls and 8 rs for incoming calls, until reliance launched their telecom service and brought down the rates to 50 paise and free incoming..

The mobile companies till that time were fleecing consumers big time and a very small percentage had mobile phones. The handsets costed a minimum 20 grand...reliance turned that on its face as well by bringing in 500 rs handsets. .now, practically all have handsets.

Reliance entered petroleum retailing and found out that they cannot compete with national companies because of the subsidies..They turn that around and get rid of fixed pricing and get rid of subsidies. .

They were the first to introduce vegetables and produce direct from farmer to customer..now all follow that lead. .They were the one's to bring in retail chains..The others weren't able to cope up with the overheads and manage the economies of scale..


The marwari business style is to break up monopoly, bring down margins, and break up business down to its nuts and bolts..

Just maybe...The defense sector needs to be broken down into achievable sections and become profitable.

 

[sathya]

Maybe defense does need the marwari / gujarati touch after all. .

I remember I used to pay 16 rs for outgoing mobile calls and 8 rs for incoming calls, until reliance launched their telecom service and brought down the rates to 50 paise and free incoming..

The mobile companies till that time were fleecing consumers big time and a very small percentage had mobile phones. The handsets costed a minimum 20 grand...reliance turned that on its face as well by bringing in 500 rs handsets. .now, practically all have handsets.

Reliance entered petroleum retailing and found out that they cannot compete with national companies because of the subsidies..They turn that around and get rid of fixed pricing and get rid of subsidies. .

They were the first to introduce vegetables and produce direct from farmer to customer..now all follow that lead. .They were the one's to bring in retail chains..The others weren't able to cope up with the overheads and manage the economies of scale..


The marwari business style is to break up monopoly, bring down margins, and break up business down to its nuts and bolts..

Just maybe...The defense sector needs to be broken down into achievable sections and become profitable.

Agreed to that..

If people find it beneficial they will buy, if the don't like they won't buy..

In defence sector , that's not the case.

 

[illusion8]

Agreed to that..

If people find it beneficial they will buy, if the don't like they won't buy..

In defence sector , that's not the case.

GOI is considering making defense production into a profit generating industry...reliance is all about making profits. As for the monopoly part...no reliance industry enjoys monopoly.