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US budget cut grounds joint air combat exercise - Indian Express


A showcase air combat exercise of the Indian Air Force with some of the best fighters in the world, scheduled to be held in July, has been called off after a series of budget cuts by Washington have affected the US military training programme.
While the IAF has been prepared for several months for the exercise that traditionally features the very latest of air combat technology and strategy, besides combat aircraft from several nations, it was informed about the cancellation a few days ago.

Sources said the high profile "Red Flag" exercise that was to be held at the Nellis Air Force base in Nevada in July was called off by the USAF due to a series of budget cuts that have affected the US military in recent months, which could even lead to the closing of several domestic military bases to save costs.

The last-minute cancellation has come as a surprise for the IAF which was getting ready to send a team of its top- line Su 30 MKI fighters along with support aircraft for the war game. Besides eight of the combat aircraft, the IAF was to send two C 130 J special operations aircraft, two IL 78 air refuellers as well as an IL 76 transport aircraft for logistics support.

This was to be the largest interaction of the IAF with its US counterpart in recent years, the last being the Red Flag exercise in 2008 where India sent its Su 30 MKI fighters.

As former air chief P V Naik said, the IAF has been very cautious in recent years while planning exercises and long overseas deployments to rationalise training costs.

In fact, the Nellis "Red Flag" exercise was planned two years ago, taking into account the money allocated to the IAF to conduct training programmes. By most estimates, the IAF would have incurred a cost of over Rs 100 crore to deploy the aircraft, along with the 150-odd personnel, for the exercise. The IAF will now have to re-plan its training schedule, but may not be able to squeeze in such a high-profile exercise due to the last-minute notice.

In the US, the cancellation of the air combat exercise comes after a series of budget cuts by the administration due to the economic crisis. With the defence budget this year remaining steady at $526.6 billion without accounting for inflation, cuts have been required to maintain US military's global presence.

The US has also called off its Red Flag-Alaska exercise that was to take place this month and was to be attended by Canada and UK Air Forces. The Nellis exercise was called off after a series of new budget cuts that came into effect on March 1 in an attempt to save $ 300 million by temporarily curtailing training operations.
 
well two things we are going to miss;
gaining the experience from an advanced air force and showing our pilots skill to the whole world.
 
I'm not disagreeing with u,just making the best out of it.
 
Good news, invite them to an exercise in India instead! They can send some F18SH from one of their carriers arround here, which isn't that costly. The French could come with Rafales, add some F15s from Singapore, Su 30MKMs from Malaysia and possibly some fighter from Arab countries and we have a good mix too.
 
Ahhhh bummer! Only really because now we dorks won't have the multitude of multimedia, that is generated from these exercises (thanks to them involving the US), to pour over! :cry::cry::frown::frown::tdown:
 
well two things we are going to miss;
gaining the experience from an advanced air force and showing our pilots skill to the whole world.

more of former than latter . Only a stupid displays his all cards .Wise men keep their cards close to their chests .
 
Good news, invite them to an exercise in India instead! They can send some F18SH from one of their carriers arround here, which isn't that costly. The French could come with Rafales, add some F15s from Singapore, Su 30MKMs from Malaysia and possibly some fighter from Arab countries and we have a good mix too.

What sets Red Flag apart isn't who takes part (although that is part of it) but the data collection and simulation technology involved that realistically simulates a real-war scenario. Additionally the scale of Red Flag is simply unparalleled on the world stage.



I had heard the IAF was looking at setting up their own Nellis-like AFB/grounds. Hopefully the IAF does come up with their own Red Flag style annual exercise involving the major players in the region and a few friendly nations worldwide. I suspect such a plan is on the books.
 
What sets Red Flag apart isn't who takes part (although that is part of it) but the data collection and simulation technology involved that realistically simulates a real-war scenario. Additionally the scale of Red Flag is simply unparalleled on the world stage.



I had heard the IAF was looking at setting up their own Nellis-like AFB/grounds. Hopefully the IAF does come up with their own Red Flag style annual exercise involving the major players in the region and a few friendly nations worldwide. I suspect such a plan is on the books.


To be honest, I doubt that the data collected at Red Flag is much of a help for IAF at all, especially since it's doubtful that they share all the data they gather and don't forget that these NATO exercises are mainly aimed on their threat perceptions, not on ours.
For IAF, a credible exercise with various different fighters from different forces in India, with our climate, the geograpical differences would be more important don't you think?
It would be interesting if they go for 3 x different locations, instead of 1 big one. Consider a 3 days exercise with locations in hot, cold and desert areas. :azn:
 
It must be a big disappointment to IAF as it has been training hard for the last two years to participate in 2-weak long exercise to wash-off the embarrassment of 2008. Had it not cancelled, IAF would have fucked the **** out of USAF in Red Flag 2013..I guess USAF got scared and called it off blaming budget cuts :)



US budget cut grounds joint air combat exercise - Indian Express

The last-minute cancellation has come as a surprise for the IAF which was getting ready to send a team of its top- line Su 30 MKI fighters along with support aircraft for the war game. Besides eight of the combat aircraft, the IAF was to send two C 130 J special operations aircraft, two IL 78 air refuellers as well as an IL 76 transport aircraft for logistics support.
 
It would be interesting if they go for 3 x different locations, instead of 1 big one. Consider a 3 days exercise with locations in hot, cold and desert areas. :azn:

What locations would you be looking at in such case ? The simulation tech and data collection at the Red Flag is unparalleled in the world and I cant think of any facility in India or generally South Asia which can remotely be compared to that ...
 
What locations would you be looking at in such case ? The simulation tech and data collection at the Red Flag is unparalleled in the world and I cant think of any facility in India or generally South Asia which can remotely be compared to that ...

You seem to seriously underestimate the technology the IAF has available to it. Your loss.
 
You seem to seriously underestimate the technology the IAF has available to it. Your loss.

I reached that conclusion from the data at hand , exactly what do you have which can be compared to their tech , why should I over estimate or under estimate the enemy ?
 
They need to cut these exercises with everybody it seems except of course when it comes to Israel there's always room for a budget.
 
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