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spoiler...reports of any infection in the above mentioned countries are forbidden!).

Although I'm not upto speed with the policies in Egypt & Turkey, why would they want to forbid reports of any new infections?? Wouldn't that just skew the overall global numbers and just present a false picture of how dangerous the virus actually is??

After all, this is now a problem affecting multiple regions across continents..there are no brownie points for downplaying numbers?
 
Although I'm not upto speed with the policies in Egypt & Turkey, why would they want to forbid reports of any new infections?? Wouldn't that just skew the overall global numbers and just present a false picture of how dangerous the virus actually is??

After all, this is now a problem affecting multiple regions across continents..there are no brownie points for downplaying numbers?
Because the cost of ignoring it is far less than the cost of handling it in silence. Egypt, Turkey, Israel and the UAE earn billions of dollars from tourism every year. Giving up on that money is not easy. Look what happened to Italy. The tourism industry has been nearly shut down since they started to announce the real numbers.
 
In Norway we have 72 confirmed cases. 56 of the cases are from people who got the virus in Italy and 6 of them are from a doctor that decided to go work at the hospital even though he had symptoms and had just came back from Italy 2 days prior. So 62/72 cases are linked to Italy, specifically Northern Italy, but Norway has still not banned tourists from Northern Italy to come here.

When someone here tests positive, they put them in home quarantine. So they are free to interact with their children, brother, sister, sleep with their husband/wife etc. The family members that live in the same house are not quarantined, they can go out freely and spread the virus
 
If you noticed all of these non-reporting governments (that we know of) are in the empire's vassal state club and therefore immune to the propaganda machinery. Now that bring up the question what are the International regulations regarding the reporting of contagious disease . Is it only up to the individual governments discretion..
 
LOL. Look at this clown trying to teach me biology. You need to learn basics of critical thinking first before you teach biology lol
Influenza has been there for thousands of years, it was discovered 90 years ago and yet there are 4 types of influenza overall. This new corona virus has been there for like 3 months and there are already two types with supposedly radically different behaviors. Basically all protein production in a cell depends on RNA. If viable mutations were that easy to happen, our bodies and appearances would've changed every few months lol

The origin of SARS itself is a hot topic for conspiracy theorists. Nobody knows where SARS came from in the first place.
What an imbecile, Influenza virus is constantly changing, They categorize these change in new subtypes that's why an imbecile like you thinks there are only 4 types of influenza, You know jack sh!t about biology, Otherwise you wouldn't be spewing bullsh!t like this. Look somewhere other than Wikipedia before spewing nonsense.

How the Flu Virus Can Change: “Drift” and “Shift”
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Influenza viruses are constantly changing. They can change in two different ways.

Antigenic Drift
One way influenza viruses change is called “antigenic drift.” These are small changes (or mutations) in the genes of influenza viruses that can lead to changes in the surface proteins of the virus: HA (hemagglutinin) and NA (neuraminidase). The HA and NA surface proteins of influenza viruses are “antigens,” which means they are recognized by the immune system and are capable of triggering an immune response, including production of antibodies that can block infection. The changes associated with antigenic drift happen continually over time as the virus replicates. Most flu shots are designed to target an influenza virus’ HA surface proteins/antigens. The nasal spray flu vaccine (LAIV) targets both the HA and NA of an influenza virus.

The small changes that occur from antigenic drift usually produce viruses that are closely related to one another, which can be illustrated by their location close together on a phylogenetic tree. Influenza viruses that are closely related to each other usually have similar antigenic properties. This means that antibodies your immune system creates against one influenza virus will likely recognize and respond to antigenically similar influenza viruses (this is called “cross-protection”).

However, the small changes associated with antigenic drift can accumulate over time and result in viruses that are antigenically different (further away on the phylogenetic tree). It is also possible for a single (or small) change in a particularly important location on the HA to result in antigenic drift. When antigenic drift occurs, the body’s immune system may not recognize and prevent sickness caused by the newer influenza viruses. As a result, a person becomes susceptible to flu infection again, as antigenic drift has changed the virus enough that a person’s existing antibodies won’t recognize and neutralize the newer influenza viruses.

Antigenic drift is the main reason why people can get the flu more than one time, and it’s also a primary reason why the flu vaccine composition must be reviewed and updated each year (as needed) to keep up with evolving influenza viruses.

Antigenic Shift
The other type of change is called “antigenic shift.” Antigenic shift is an abrupt, major change in an influenza A virus, resulting in new HA and/or new HA and NA proteins in influenza viruses that infect humans. Shift can result in a new influenza A subtype in humans. One way shift can happen is when an influenza virus from an animal population gains the ability to infect humans. Such animal-origin viruses can contain an HA or HA/NA combination that is so different from the same subtype in humans that most people do not have immunity to the new (e.g., novel) virus. Such a “shift” occurred in the spring of 2009, when an H1N1 virus with genes from North American Swine, Eurasian Swine, humans and birds emerged to infect people and quickly spread, causing a pandemic. When shift happens, most people have little or no immunity against the new virus.

While influenza viruses change all the time due to antigenic drift, antigenic shift happens less frequently. Influenza pandemics occur very rarely; there have been four pandemics in the past 100 years. For more information, see pandemic flu. Type A viruses undergo both antigenic drift and shift and are the only influenza viruses known to cause pandemics, while influenza type B viruses change only by the more gradual process of antigenic drift.
 
Because the cost of ignoring it is far less than the cost of handling it in silence. Egypt, Turkey, Israel and the UAE earn billions of dollars from tourism every year. Giving up on that money is not easy. Look what happened to Italy. The tourism industry has been nearly shut down since they started to announce the real numbers.
True, but it can't be hidden forever, especially if this virus strain mutates as fast as they say it does. It will just increase infection rates, and eventually tourists who go back home (with an infection) are bound to be scrutinized for travel details and where they could have possibly contracted the virus from. How long does it take (considering everyone in the world today is hyped up about covid) for any of these countries downplaying numbers to get highlighted? I'm not saying Italy did this or did not, but there is a spurt there, and it's on record.
 
True, but it can't be hidden forever, especially if this virus strain mutates as fast as they say it does. It will just increase infection rates, and eventually tourists who go back home (with an infection) are bound to be scrutinized for travel details and where they could have possibly contracted the virus from. How long does it take (considering everyone in the world today is hyped up about covid) for any of these countries downplaying numbers to get highlighted? I'm not saying Italy did this or did not, but there is a spurt there, and it's on record.

A lot of passengers traveling from Istanbul with Turkish Airlines have been tested positive for the virus. But somehow there are no reports of the virus in Turkey.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...me-empty-after-coronavirus-case-idUSKBN20S0MV
 
LOL. Look at this clown trying to teach me biology. You need to learn basics of critical thinking first before you teach biology lol
Influenza has been there for thousands of years, it was discovered 90 years ago and yet there are 4 types of influenza overall. This new corona virus has been there for like 3 months and there are already two types with supposedly radically different behaviors. Basically all protein production in a cell depends on RNA. If viable mutations were that easy to happen, our bodies and appearances would've changed every few months lol

The origin of SARS itself is a hot topic for conspiracy theorists. Nobody knows where SARS came from in the first place.
first of all can you name me those 4 influenza viruses ?
there is 4 type of influenza ,but those types have lots of different subtypes
from wikipedia
New influenza viruses are constantly evolving by mutation or by reassortment.[54] Mutations can cause small changes in the hemagglutinin and neuraminidase antigens on the surface of the virus. This is called antigenic drift, which slowly creates an increasing variety of strains until one evolves that can infect people who are immune to the pre-existing strains. This new variant then replaces the older strains as it rapidly sweeps through the human population, often causing an epidemic.[193] However, since the strains produced by drift will still be reasonably similar to the older strains, some people will still be immune to them. In contrast, when influenza viruses reassort, they acquire completely new antigens—for example by reassortment between avian strains and human strains; this is called antigenic shift. If a human influenza virus is produced that has entirely new antigens, everybody will be susceptible, and the novel influenza will spread uncontrollably, causing a pandemic.[194] In contrast to this model of pandemics based on antigenic drift and shift, an alternative approach has been proposed where the periodic pandemics are produced by interactions of a fixed set of viral strains with a human population with a constantly changing set of immunities to different viral strains.[195]
we have 18 type of Hemagglutinin and 11 type of Neuraminidase. well sadly its not that simple even
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influenza virus as you can see all those parts can mutate and do mutate
 
What an imbecile, Influenza virus is constantly changing, They categorize these change in new subtypes that's why an imbecile like you thinks there are only 4 types of influenza, You know jack sh!t about biology, Otherwise you wouldn't be spewing bullsh!t like this.
LOL. Everything is constantly changing. Only changes that are substantial matter. Again, it takes a long time in average for a viable mutation to happen. It's funny that an idiot like you is trying to lecture me on biology now.

Polio is caused by an RNA virus. Yet you don't get vaccinated against polio every year because it is an RNA virus and it changes. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

first of all can you name me those 4 influenza viruses ?
there is 4 type of influenza ,but those types have lots of different subtypes
from wikipedia

we have 18 type of Hemagglutinin and 11 type of Neuraminidase. well sadly its not that simple even
Flu_und_legende_color_c.jpg

influenza virus as you can see all those parts can mutate and do mutate
Type A, B, C and D. ;-)
 
If you noticed all of these non-reporting governments (that we know of) are in the empire's vassal state club and therefore immune to the propaganda machinery. Now that bring up the question what are the International regulations regarding the reporting of contagious disease . Is it only up to the individual governments discretion..

Yes, see here

http://en.farsnews.ir/newstext.aspx?nn=13981215000631

“People’s mental health is being targeted by unfair attacks of Western, Hebrew, and Arabic media to harm their physical health,” Shamkhani wrote on his twitter page on Thursday. “The mission of the nation’s enemies is to boost the effectiveness of the coronavirus by weakening the community resilience. The big lie of secrecy is the keyword of striking at Iranians’ mental health,” he added.

He is right. Every one could read this "hate writing" against Iran cause of Corona in german newspapers/onlinenews a week or so ago. But now, while in germany the same is comming up with corona, the idiots shut up.


"The number of patients firmly diagnosed with coronavirus infection in Iran has reached 3,513, health ministry announced on Thursday, raising the number of deaths to 107. It added that 739 coronavirus patients have been cured and discharged from hospitals across the country."

That looks like Corona is slowed down in Iran.
 
A lot of passengers traveling from Istanbul with Turkish Airlines have been tested positive for the virus. But somehow there are no reports of the virus in Turkey.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...me-empty-after-coronavirus-case-idUSKBN20S0MV

Just because they are flying from Istanbul, doesn't mean that's the source of their infection, right? Were they transiting, did they visit some other place before going to turkey....incubation period is 2weeks minimum...so there are many unanswered questions. If Turkey says there is nothing detected locally , why would they make that statement, knowing fully well that for a positive case current diagnostic science is able to determine more or less when the subject got infected, and thus determine where he/she contracted the infection. Downplaying the number is worse for tourism (in the long run) than accepting it and stating that due measures are being deployed.

Well this shit virus has been around for 3 months and has already mutated
And it seems to have a penchant for frequent mutation as it does the world tour
 
Well this shit virus has been around for 3 months and has already mutated
That's my point. Cthulhu is under the impression that RNA viruses mutate very fast and every mutation leads to a new viable type. Polio and measles are both RNA viruses, known to us for hundreds or thousands of years and yet vaccination against them has been very successful which proves that not every mutation is viable and not every change counts.
 
Just because they are flying from Istanbul, doesn't mean that's the source of their infection, right? Were they transiting, did they visit some other place before going to turkey....incubation period is 2weeks minimum...so there are many unanswered questions. If Turkey says there is nothing detected locally , why would they make that statement, knowing fully well that for a positive case current diagnostic science is able to determine more or less when the subject got infected, and thus determine where he/she contracted the infection. Downplaying the number is worse for tourism (in the long run) than accepting it and stating that due measures are being deployed.

Istanbul airport is the biggest airport in the world with 16 000 employees. Of course 16000 don't work all at once, but you get the picture.
 
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