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this is USA

home country grants these americans hospitality by considering them diplomats and protecting them and treating them as special guests

they reciprocate their feelings by coming here and killing a couple of citizens

its time we need to move foreward and retaiate by killing 6-7 americans in afghanistan and lets help the talibans, enuf is enuf

and its lesson for pakistanis to not let these under cover criminals to roam free next time and thoroughly strip search them if they come to pakistan next them.. they dont deserve to have freedom here..

pakistani govt must ensure the americans who come here, are properly processed, have good character and no illegal things, and dont have CIA or other false back grounds

americans in pakistan are like animals with criminal background, sent here to spy on us and use our soil for their dirty work against us, and make terrorist activities, they deserve to be treated like fit.hy swine..
 
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The official line will be "due diligence for a sensitive matter". The behind the scenes story is not for public consumption, least of all in this thread.

The next few moves will end the game soon enough.

:agree::agree: we know that already even a layman believes the same here

But this incident is surely going to add to few things
 
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State Department confused to establish identity of Raymond Davis PDF Print E-mail
ISLAMABAD, Feb 2 (APP): The killing of two Lahore boys by a US national has gelled the nation together in demanding legal course of action and in standing up to the US pressure to release its citizen. The US which has so far been unable to build up a case for its “diplomat” has demanded immunity under the Vienna Convention and called for his immediate release. The government on Wednesday placed his name on the Exit Control List, on the instructions of the court, while another case has been filed against him for carrying illegal weapon.

The United States has been trying to establish that Raymond Davis has been serving as a “technical and administrative staff” with the US embassy Islamabad. However it failed to justify as what was he doing in Lahore and why was he carrying a gun.

The White House Spokesman P J Crowley when questioned about the nature of Raymond’s job, his real name and why was he carrying a gun, briefly answered “I’m not at liberty to talk about his identity yet.” So it is very strange that his identity could not be even established by the State Department.
Asked why he was not issued a diplomatic visa, the spokesman said “Look, this is a matter that we are still discussing with the Government of Pakistan.”
The United States Embassy in Pakistan on Jan 29 demanded immediate release of its “unlawfully detained” diplomat, who has a diplomatic passport and Pakistani visa valid until June 2012.

Legal experts believe that wrong interpretations of the Vienna Convention are being floated to serve vested interests; as two different conventions, of 1961 and 1963, are being mixed-up to protect Raymond Davis.
International law expert Ahmar Bilal Sufi said that both conventions are entirely different, one dealing with immunity to diplomatic staff while the other deals with consular staff.

“The Vienna Convention on Consulate relations 1963, in its article 41 clearly states that in case of grave crimes like murder there is no immunity,” he said.

Meanwhile the political leadership, across the divide, has been unanimous in their demand for a court trial of the accused.
President Asif Ali Zardari clearly told the delegation of US Congressmen, that “It would be prudent to wait for the legal course to be completed.”
While Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani denied that the federal government was pressurizing release of the detained American. He said, “Neither we are under pressure nor we will pressurize any body to release him.”

He said “no one is above the law ... we will respect the law of the land.”

Similar views were stated by the Interior Minister Rehman Malik who said he would be dealt with in accordance with law of the land.
“Law will take its course and no favor will be done with the accused,” he told the National Assembly.

A senior Advocate of the Supreme Court said there was no diplomatic immunity, as he was not a diplomat, covered under the Vienna Convention, and committed a crime not done during his official duties.
According to a report by the American Broadcasting Corporation, Raymond Davis works for Hyperion Protective Consultants, a Florida based company, specialising in security and his diplomatic status seems dubious.

The US embassy maintained that “the diplomat acted in self-defense when confronted by two armed men on motorcycles ... had every reason to believe that the armed men meant him bodily harm.”
The embassy also claimed that the two men, who had criminal backgrounds, had robbed money and valuables at gunpoint from a Pakistani citizen in the same area.
For the families of those killed the US embassy said “We regret that this incident resulted in loss of life.”
According to analyst Zahid Hussain, the matter was now in public domain and “no more between the two countries
He said the issue of immunity, and whether Davis shot the boys in self-defence, was yet to be ascertained.
 
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Here is the Police Report naming the two Pakistani doctors whose money and cell phone were stolen by the two robbers. It is time to wait for the implementation of Diplomatic Immunity and get past false attempts to misdescribe a failed armed robbery.

Both the guns, two, recovered one each from the robbers, unlicensed firearms, and the cell phones stolen from the two Pakistani gentlemen are evidence against the two robbers. The cell phones are in fact found to be those of the two doctors the two robbers had just "stuck up" before their failed stick up attempt on American Diplomat Raymond Allen Davis.


Lytton Road military pronounced they had perceived dual complaints opposite Faizan & Faheem for attempted robberies upon Friday. They pronounced the complainants were Doctor Mudassar & Sheharyar, who pronounced Faizan & Faheem had snatched their mobile phones & money at gun indicate from Mozang & LOS areas, respectively, in between 1:15pm & 1:30pm upon Friday. Both complainants claimed which they did not surprise the military at the time of the incidents since they were panicked.

They pronounced which they identified the “robbers” after saying them upon TV. However, Faizan & Faheem’s brothers deserted the allegations leveled by the complainants. Faizan’s hermit pronounced military was conspiring to assist the American, alleging which his hermit was carrying the pistol’s looseness in his pocket, which military had taken in to control usually to infer which the arms was unlicenced.

Faheem’s hermit pronounced the usually probability to save the American was to acknowledgement his hermit a pirate & military was doing all to assist the American. On the alternative palm the family groups of Faizan Haider & Faheem Shamshad, the dual boys killed by Davis, claimed which the military was dire them to repel the cases. The military have beefed up confidence in & around the US Consulate in sequence to forestall any unfavourable incident.

Time to implement Diplomatic Immunity and to now honestly and openly once and for all admit the two robbers were bandits the same day in Lahore, once against two Pakistani gentlemen who are of record in this posting and once when they tried but failed to stick up Mr. Raymond Allen Davis, who is a US Diplomat with Diplomatic Immunity now admitted by the Government of Pakistan.
 
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Lytton Road police said they had received two complaints against Faizan & Faheem for attempted robberies on Friday. They said the complainants were Doctor Mudassar & Sheharyar, who said Faizan & Faheem had snatched their mobile phones & cash at gun point from Mozang & LOS areas, respectively, between 1:15pm & 1:30pm on Friday. Both complainants claimed that they did not inform the police at the time of the incidents because they were panicked.

They said that they identified the “robbers” after seeing them on TV.

So now we resort to cartoons, facemasks in the street in defiance of the hard fact that the two robbers, Faizan and Faheem, were same day before trying to stick up Mr. Davis robbers of Doctor Mudassar and Sheharyar in same area of Lahore.The robbers were found to be carrying and seen waving about two illegal pistols, as well as found to have on their persons the stolen two cell phones and money of Mudassar and Sheharyar.
 
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So now we resort to cartoons, facemasks in the street in defiance of the hard fact that the two robbers, Faizan and Faheem, were same day before trying to stick up Mr. Davis robbers of Doctor Mudassar and Sheharyar in same area of Lahore.The robbers were found to be carrying and seen waving about two illegal pistols, as well as found to have on their persons the stolen two cell phones and money of Mudassar and Sheharyar.
Lytton Road Police should present some the recorded police complaint against Faheem, no criminal record exists against him, no complaint.

Against Faizan, only a gun was found on him.

Conveniently no police case was filed against them before the Davis incident...

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Mask of the "american movie"--- Scary movie":oops:
Actually, Scream.
 
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If found guilty, we can ask the Americans to waiver his diplomatic immunity, what are the chances of that happening?
If he was sent to execute Faheem and Faizan, especially given the fact that eye witnesses say he chased after them and the autopsy says most of the bullets were fired on the victims' backs, then it was probably sanctioned by the US government and they won't waiver the immunity.

Although Pakistan should reduce the immune staff down to only the upper echelons of the Ambassadorial staff, preferably fat old men, who won't probably be rambo incarnates.
 
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The official line will be "due diligence for a sensitive matter". The behind the scenes story is not for public consumption, least of all in this thread.

The next few moves will end the game soon enough.
The thing is, how did the information about his business visa leak out before and nobody was denying it till today? Now Malik suddenly says its not a business visa but a diplomatic one?

Why is Pak government granting such visas to IT technicians? If nothing else we should use this opportunity to flush and expose out the US loyalists
 
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