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Your desire to try and condemn man who has Diplomatic Immunity stops with the legal fact, in International Law and by International Treaties, which take precedence over all local and national laws, that he is Immune and has Diplomatic Immunity.

There is no such desire sir. However, whether he does enjoy immunity or not is still to be ascertained though the embassy confirms he comes under the category of diplomats. I reiterate that diplomatic immunity clause of geneva convention provides exceptions.
 
Extraordinary circumstances.

Now sir, you are stepping into the realm of the emotional.

There were no 'extraordinary circumstances'.

The most you could have done was to detain him.

YOU CANNOT ARREST HIM! PERIOD.

Now tell me, under which clauses of the Vienna Convention did you arrest a person claiming diplomatic immunity?

It means Pakistan doesn't respect the obligations Vienna Convention.
 
Now sir, you are stepping into the realm of the emotional.

There were no 'extraordinary circumstances'.

The most you could have done was to detain him.

YOU CANNOT ARREST HIM! PERIOD.

Now tell me, under which clauses of the Vienna Convention did you arrest a person claiming diplomatic immunity?

Guess what!!!

WE HAVE ARRESTED HIM

He will be tried... That is the FACT
 
Now sir, you are stepping into the realm of the emotional.

There were no 'extraordinary circumstances'.

The most you could have done was to detain him.

YOU CANNOT ARREST HIM! PERIOD.

Now tell me, under which clauses of the Vienna Convention did you arrest a person claiming diplomatic immunity?

Whats up with font size?
BTW he is already in custody.
 
YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE VIENNA CONVENTION.

Lol, okay Secretary General.. Thank you for your valued input, i will be sure to pass it on to the Foreign Office, since they have the FINAL say in the matter.

Good day now.
 
The State Department has already said that he has diplomatic immunity.

Who cares what the U.S. State Department says. The courts of law in Pakistan will determine this. The Lahore High Court made this clear today: the court will decide on the matter of diplomatic immunity.

Also, a diplomatic passport alone does not grant one diplomatic immunity. You could be diplomat in Pakistan and visit Thailand for your honeymoon, you will not not be a diplomat in Thailand. The Receiving State must expressly accept you as a diplomat, the Sending State cannot unilaterally make one a diplomat.

In Pakistan, all diplomats are issued with diplomatic ID cards by the Foreign Ministry. The U.S. Embassy can end this controversy simply by showing Raymond Davis's diplomatic ID card.
 
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The chess pieces have begun to move into place for checkmate, just as predicted. Patience, guys (and gals), PATIENCE!
 
Who cares what the U.S. State Department says. The courts of law in Pakistan will determine this. The Lahore High Court made this clear today: the court will decide on the matter of diplomatic immunity.

Also, a diplomatic passport alone does not grant one diplomatic immunity. You could be diplomat in Pakistan and visit Thailand for your honeymoon, you will not not be a diplomat in Thailand. The Receiving State must expressly accept you as a diplomat, the Sending State cannot unilaterally make one a diplomat.

In Pakistan, all diplomats are issued with diplomatic ID cards by the Foreign Ministry. The U.S. Embassy can end this controversy simply by showing Raymond Davis's diplomatic ID card.

And as long as the receiving state doesn't convey its disapproval, the claimant cannot be arrested.

Of course, if you don't want to honor an international obligation then that's a different matter.
 
3 foreigners took out rifles to scare the crowd away... when crowd tried to stop the SUV in order to remove the body of hit-&-draging 3rd victom...

YouTube - Dunya TV-Khari Baat Lucman Kay Saath-31-01-2011-Pt2/4

SUV was carrying number-plate of a Suzuki-Mehran registered in Sahiwal...
Davis was photographing x-army installations on Waris Road...
SUV guys took Davis's camera away...

YouTube - Dunya TV-Khari Baat Lucman Kay Saath-31-01-2011-Pt3/4
YouTube - Dunya TV-Khari Baat Lucman Kay Saath-31-01-2011-Pt4/4
Hamid Gul thinks he was under-cover on a recruitment mission,,, & may be was trying to recruit those victoms on bike... but they probably didn't get along well...

2 Americans were killed in Karachi a while back,,, who had fight with their hired agents over payments & were killed by those patsies themselves.... this might be a similar case of discord b/w recruiter & patsies...

YouTube - YaNabi.com - Islamabad Tonight 2011.01.31 - 2
SpyTalk - Lahore shootout: Spy rendezvous gone bad?

Lahore shootout: Spy rendezvous gone bad?
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By Jeff Stein
A senior former U.S. diplomatic security agent suggested Thursday that the American involved in a fatal shootout in Lahore, Pakistan, was the victim of a spy meeting gone awry, not the target of a robbery or car-jacking attempt.

"It looks like an informant meet gone bad more than a car-jacking attempt,” said Fred Burton, a former deputy chief of the U.S. Diplomatic Security Service’s counter-terrorism division.

Early reports were sketchy. Many said the American, identified in the Pakistani press variously as Raymond David, or just “Davis,” had shot two armed men on a motorcycle “in self defense” as they approached his car in a robbery attempt. As the American sped away, another Pakistani on a motorcycle was killed, according to the reports.

[SATURDAY UDATE: Embassy officials have identified the man as Raymond A. Davis. A senior U.S. official quoted by The Post said Davis was a "permanent diplomat" who was assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad as a security officer, a role the official described as "a guy who is in the protection of people."]

A Lahore police official earlier told The Post that “another U.S. vehicle was traveling with the sedan and that the American then fled the scene in that car. As it sped away, it hit a motorcyclist, killing him.”

Pakistan's GEO TV broadcast a photo of a broad-faced, 40-something man in a plaid shirt sitting in the back of a police car, who it identified as the American involved in the shootout.

According to Burton, who worked on several major terrorism cases in the 1980s and 1990s, the incident showed that David “had outstanding situational awareness to recognize the attack unfolding and shoot the other men.”

“It shows a high degree of firearms discipline and training,” Burton added. “Either the consulate employee's route was compromised by terrorist or criminal surveillance, or it's feasible he was set up in some sort of double-agent operation, if this wasn't a criminal motive.”

David was quickly apprehended and surrendered a Beretta pistol and three cell phones, according to local reports quoting police. He remains in custody.

No immediate explanation was given for David’s presence in Lahore’s Qartaba Chowk area, a mixed commercial and residential where two major roads meet.

“Even if U.S. officials are cleared of wrongdoing,” The Post correspondents reported, “the incident could be explosive in a nation where anti-American sentiment is strong. Some Pakistani news channels covering the episode raised the possibility that the Americans involved were employees of Blackwater, an American security contractor, now known as Xe Services, that is widely viewed in Pakistan as a sort of mercenary agency.”

By Jeff Stein | January 27, 2011; 3:10 PM ET
 
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Now sir, you are stepping into the realm of the emotional.

There were no 'extraordinary circumstances'.

The most you could have done was to detain him.

Now tell me, under which clauses of the Vienna Convention did you arrest a person claiming diplomatic immunity?

It means Pakistan doesn't respect the obligations Vienna Convention.

Dear Sir,

I am far from being emotional in this case. Now, let's just say for your satisfaction that he has been detained. Now, will you please take a look at article 31 c of the convention.


http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_1_1961.pdf
 
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