Raymond Davis Case: Developing Story

[jahangeer yousaf]

calm down rohail we all know that they are doing but we should watch our language with regards ...... hopefully you do understand what i meant to say

 

[Safriz]

this ppp gov will pay the price for this act.....
this killer said himself he is just a consultant in Lahore consulate

now these Americans salves in gov acted on masters wish.....

i hope someone now within the police will kill this person without any delay as they did with Punjab governor..............

when gov fails to provide protection to its citizens then people need to take things in their own hands.....

he got the immunity what about the car driver who crushed one innocent person did he got the immunity too?

i demand that there shouldn't be any consulate in Lahore as they font follow the rule of country ..... they should be restricted to Islamabad only

As much as we are annoyed by the cowardice of PPP government..we certainly don't want extra judicial killing..The person should be tried in a court of law without any immunity and the court should decide his fate...

 

[Kinetic]

Going through first few pages it seems like critical situation indeed.

My question to those think that RD will be released, how the PPP govt will do that according to law when there are so many allegations against RD??? Impossible. Above all army is there.

 

[JonAsad]

Wonder when she gona retract her statement-- like our not so respected Interior Minister Rehman Malik did--

Any way the Courts will decide what to do with Davis- she can just bark to show her loyalty to her masters-- thats it--

 

[kugga]

Going through first few pages it seems like critical situation indeed.

My question to those think that RD will be released, how the PPP govt will do that according to law when there are so many allegations against RD??? Impossible.

You shud also go through last few pages to get the answer.. Haven't you heard
"Where there is a will, there is a way"

 

[Raza88]

How is it that the PPP leadership is so dumb?
Every step that they take seems to be a cry 'please come and kick us out'

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

The process of ending this case is proceeding exactly as I predicted.

We ALL need to remain calm and collected and NOT give in to stoked mass hysteria that would be self damaging above all else.

And what happens when the PPP and Zardari try and sell out our nuclear program?

This may be just one incident, but what this one incident makes clear is that the PPP/Zardari will sell out any Pakistani interest they can for the sake of continued aid from the US. The only reason the Pakistani nuclear program hasn't been sold out yet is because the military has strong control over it.

And some people still wonder why so many Pakistanis trust the military over politicians and find the military's control of certain key areas desirable.

This incident is rebuke enough to the rantings against the military of Kamran Shafi, NFP, Ayesha Siddiqa and Co.

 

[Leviza]

As much as we are annoyed by the cowardice of PPP government..we certainly don't want extra judicial killing..The person should be tried in a court of law without any immunity and the court should decide his fate...

yes i agree with you but for how long we as a nation keep going like this.....
this is done on purpose to make our nation go down and down......

why did the drone attacks stopped in this time frame?
the Game is on and US playing all its dirty cards ........ as our gov is failed in protecting its citizens someone need to come fwd.

they are doing all this BS to take the WOT on next level .......... if we dont stop this now it will become a routine in Pakistan like drone attacks....

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

How is it that the PPP leadership is so dumb?
Every step that they take seems to be a cry 'please come and kick us out'

A few analysts analyzing Zardari and the PPP's bizarre behavior a couple of months ago suggested that perhaps the PPP wants to be 'kicked out unconstitutionally', because then they can claim to be 'political martyrs', and excuse away all their failings by ranting about how 'we were removed from power and not allowed to finish our term', and use that to salvage seats and make a comeback later.

 

[JonAsad]

Lets analyze her statement-

Fauzia Wahab said that Pakistan is the signatory of Vienna Convention, therefore, all the diplomats enjoy immunity, adding that diplomats cannot be arrested under this convention.

She said that Davis possess diplomatic passport, therefore, he enjoys immunity.

Point1- Pakistan is the signatory of Vienna Convention
Yeah right-

Point2- all the diplomats enjoy immunity
Point3- Davis possess diplomatic passport, therefore, he enjoys immunity.

Diplomatic visa or Diplomatic Passport-- does not guarentee Diplomatic Immunity- They enjoy immunity- only if their immunity is approved by FO-- in this case we can easily say he do not have immunity-- otherwise how hard it could be for the FO to verify it--

Point4- diplomats cannot be arrested under this convention.

Yes they can be- Diplomats can be arrested and prosecuted- according to same Vienna convention we are signatory of-

According to Vienna convection Article 41 for Arrest--

Article 41
Personal inviolability of consular of icers
1. Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a
grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority.
2. Except in the case specified in paragraph 1 of this article, consular officers shall not be
committed to prison or be liable to any other form of restriction on their personal freedom save in
execution of a judicial decision of final effect.
3. If criminal proceedings are instituted against a consular officer, he must appear before the
competent authorities. Nevertheless, the proceedings shall be conducted with the respect due to him by
reason of his official position and, except in the case specified in paragraph 1 of this article, in a manner
which will hamper the exercise of consular functions as little as possible. When, in the circumstances
mentioned in paragraph 1 of this article, it has become necessary to detain a consular officer, the
proceedings against him shall be instituted with the minimum of delay

and

According to Vienna convention Article 42 for Prosecution--

Article 42
Notification of arrest, detention or prosecution
In the event of the arrest or detention, pending trial, of a member of the consular staff, or of
criminal proceedings being instituted against him, the receiving State shall promptly notify the head of
the consular post. Should the latter be himself the object of any such measure, the receiving State shall
notify the sending State through the diplomatic channe

Link- 1963 Vienna convention

Point5- Who is she to say Davis has immunity and should be freed, when his Big Boss Mr Zardari has himself stated that on record-- that the courts will decide Davis fate--

 

[kugga]

Mere mulk tey paaey ney sappan ney dairey..... Uth jawaaana.....

YouTube - Uth Jawana- Soch Band- Real Patriotic Song

 

[RescueRanger]

Mere mulk tey paaey ney sappan ney dairey..... Uth jawaaana.....

YouTube - Uth Jawana- Soch Band- Real Patriotic Song

Pakistani bas Ganey Gatey hain or Nachtey hain. Abye in ko agar apne mohalley me sarak theek karney ko kaho to sara "Jazba" flat ho jaye ga.

Nation of Slackers.

 

[ashok321]

The Pakistani government is feeling the heat of former foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshis startling disclosure that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had forced him to confirm the diplomatic immunity for US consular staffer Raymond Davis, who is currently in custody on charges of killing two people in Lahore

Pakistan feels heat after Qureshi's disclosures | Hillary Clinton | Raymond Davis | Indian Express

 

[kugga]

Pakistani bas Ganey Gatey hain or Nachtey hain. Abye in ko agar apne mohalley me sarak theek karney ko kaho to sara "Jazba" flat ho jaye ga.

Nation of Slackers.

hmmm I agree wid you but buddy ab mein sb ko utha tou nai sakta na gharon sey aur na hi yeh larka nikaal sakta hai... nikalain gay sb tab hi jab Allah himmat day ga.. Woh suna haina

Maali da kam paani laana, bhar bhar mushkaan paawey
Malik da kam phal phool laana, laawey ya na laawey

Every person shud fulfill his own duty first..

 

[Raza88]

A few analysts analyzing Zardari and the PPP's bizarre behavior a couple of months ago suggested that perhaps the PPP wants to be 'kicked out unconstitutionally', because then they can claim to be 'political martyrs', and excuse away all their failings by ranting about how 'we were removed from power and not allowed to finish our term', and use that to salvage seats and make a comeback later.

Exactly!!
The only problem is that the nation is in such a bad state that no political party wants to come into power right now and the military which has already taken a little beating on its public image due to musharraf is staying in the background (which by the way is the right thing on behalf of the military).
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