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Rangers raid MQM workers' convention in Karachi, dozens of activists detained.

^ he forgot or don't wanna mention JI terror squad in colleges and universities. Laton ke bhoot baton se nahi mante, need to know the philosophy behind that phrase.
JI is in all other Pakistan why they don't have militant wing there my father is a professer he in his whole life he went after JI and has made their life miserable and JI hated him but still there was no fear off coming under attack so cut the crap it was MQM who started ethinic terrorism in Karachi and every party responded in same way
 
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JI is in all other Pakistan why they don't have militant wing there my father is a professer he in his whole life he went after JI and has made their life miserable and JI hated him but still there was no fear off coming under attack so cut the crap it was MQM who started ethinic terrorism in Karachi and every party responded in same way
IJT was/is a terror wing of JI, and both have their fair share in the creation of MQM in Karachi; this much is indeed correct and undeniable. Folks of my age who attended Universities in those days will confirm this. There were a lot of non-aligned students like me who sort of welcomed APMSO/MQM for it balanced out the thuggery of IJT in the campuses.
 
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@Mav3rick : you must belong to a rich family then, because in Pakistan it's always the poor who suffer. My parents both belonged to purely middle class areas of Karachi, and they tell me that it was only in the 90s that gun culture in Karachi introduced by the MQM shot up like a bullet.

No sane person in entire Pakistan can ever claim that gun culture was introduced by MQM!
 
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No sane person in entire Pakistan can ever claim that gun culture was introduced by MQM!

True. But in Karachi they did do it.

Karachi became a hotbed of gun violence in late 80s and afterwards, right about when MQM came into being.

Altaf Hussain, calling COAS and asking him why his brother and nephew were killed. LOL. If he is that concerned, why not come to Pakistan and start legal battle in the supreme courts?

For 20 years the idiot has stayed abroad.
 
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No sane person in entire Pakistan can ever claim that gun culture was introduced by MQM!
No it was indeed not introduced by MQM. It was JI/IJT that introduced violent students politics in education institutions. However, once adopted, MQM indeed left everyone else behind in terms of violence. Still, compared to closed-minded JI/IJT, I'll probably consider myself more at ease with MQM/APMSO. However, let me add that MQM's politics is not taking it to anywhere.
 
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JI is in all other Pakistan why they don't have militant wing there my father is a professer he in his whole life he went after JI and has made their life miserable and JI hated him but still there was no fear off coming under attack so cut the crap it was MQM who started ethinic terrorism in Karachi and every party responded in same way


Ask to student & professors of Punjab University :lol:

True. But in Karachi they did do it.

Karachi became a hotbed of gun violence in late 80s and afterwards, right about when MQM came into being.


Gun culture was started in Universities in late 70s while JI had approached to ammunition due to Afghan war ... Afterwards Afghan immigrants had introduced Kalashnikov & other arms in Karachi in early 80s ... MQM tau baad ki paidawar hai ... Why on earth you people forget Orangi Town & Pakka kila massacre ... Had both incidents occurred without arms :azn:
 
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Ask to student & professors of Punjab University :lol:




Gun culture was started in Universities in late 70s while JI had approached to ammunition due to Afghan war ... Afterwards Afghan immigrants had introduced Kalashnikov & other arms in Karachi in early 80s ... MQM tau baad ki paidawar hai ... Why on earth you people forget Orangi Town & Pakka kila massacre ... Had both incidents occurred without arms :azn:
Mr PU is exactly where my father teach IJT even at peak maximum used to beat but never used guns its MQM who started this
 
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Mr PU is exactly where my father teach IJT even at peak maximum used to beat but never used guns its MQM who started this


Leave stupidity please ... And listen what other members are saying in reply of your post about IJT ... In Karachi IJT had introduce gun culture and their thunder squad was famous terrorist group in late 70s .........
 
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Thunder Squad/IJT

The AK-47 first made its proper introduction in Pakistan in mid-1979 when the then leader of the IJT in Karachi and president of the student union at the University of Karachi, appeared on the campus with ‘bodyguards’ armed with AK-47s.

The bodyguards were led by Rana Javed, the notorious leader of IJT’s militant wing, the ‘Thunder Squad’ — a violent group formed at the University of Karachi and Punjab University to “curb immoral activities on campuses.”

NSF, BSO, the Peoples Students Federation (PSF) — the student-wing of the PPP — and the Liberal Students Organisation (LSO) had a history of regularly clashing with IJT and its moral squad.

In 1979, the Thunder Squad demonstrated the first (recorded) usage of an AK-47 in Pakistan when it fired upon a gathering of progressive students at Karachi University.

There were no deaths, but the incident left anti-IJT forces badly shaken but awakened to the reality of an enemy that was fast changing its tactics.

Rana and his men had come into contact with a Pakistani middle-man who had gotten them in touch with an Afghan gun dealer in Peshawar. Funds were raised by the IJT in Karachi (accommodated by the JI and its connections with Hekmatyar), and a group of IJT men travelled to Peshawar to buy their first cache of AK47.

With temperatures rising, IJT members now started distributing AK-47s to Thunder Squad personnel in Punjab as well. Distressed by IJT’s violent growth there, leftist militant students formed the Black Eagles. Outside the IJT, the Eagles were the first student group to acquire AK-47s in Lahore.

In mid-1981, the AK-47 claimed its third victim at the University of Karachi when IJT members mowed down Shaukat Cheema, a member of the USM.

In 1977, IJT had successfully campaigned to have a mosque built on the campus. But by 1980, the organisation was using the mosque to stash its pistols and AK-47s. And it was near the same mosque that Cheema was ambushed and downed by a hail of bullets from an AK-47.


By 1985, an AK-47 was easily available in Karachi and its usage extended beyond university and college campuses; organised criminal gangs were now armed with them as well.

The major reason behind the weapon’s widespread availability was the influx of Afghan refugees, who in the early 1980s had started moving into the shanty towns of Karachi.

With them came gun and drug runners. Compared to the 1970s, crime in Karachi almost quadrupled in the 1980s, and Karachi soon had the second-biggest population of heroin addicts in the world.

Almost 51 per cent of the city's population was Mohajir (Urdu-speakers), and their anger towards Afghan gun-runners and drug peddlers (most of whom were Pashto-speaking) metamorphosed into agitation against the city’s Pashtuns, who had migrated from KP in the 1960s.

The tension between the two communities erupted into deadly riots and pitched battles. This violence eventually saw the APMSO give rise to the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM)

bso-na.blogspot.com/.../years-of-gun-political-history-of-ak-4...
2013年12月26日 ... A 1975 photo of Hekmatyar taken in Peshawar. ... he invited the staunchly anti- PPP Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) to join ... In 1979, the Thunder Squad demonstrated the first ... Funds were raised by the IJT in Karachi (.accommodated by ...








It's a very long blog by Nadeem F Pracha but interesting read.
 
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Long live MQM. The only political party that stands up for the rights of the Urdu speaking against the punjabi establishment.

Violence by MQM is a justified reaction to the injustices committed against the muhajirs by the so-called contractors of patriotism.
 
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@Patriots
 
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MQM end protest without getting the demands met.... useless excuse :-)

Long live MQM. The only political party that stands up for the rights of the Urdu speaking against the punjabi establishment.

Violence by MQM is a justified reaction to the injustices committed against the muhajirs by the so-called contractors of patriotism.
 
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Ask to student & professors of Punjab University :lol:




Gun culture was started in Universities in late 70s while JI had approached to ammunition due to Afghan war ... Afterwards Afghan immigrants had introduced Kalashnikov & other arms in Karachi in early 80s ... MQM tau baad ki paidawar hai ... Why on earth you people forget Orangi Town & Pakka kila massacre ... Had both incidents occurred without arms :azn:

I studied in punjab university and there was no problem from jamiat guys, actually the head of our department had banned them to enter in the premises of our department, their head quarters were mainly IER, LAW and islamic centre departments. In the hostels too we never had any problem from any jamiat guys.

I think I hit on your nerves so you brining up personal stuff:wink: btw I'm a punjabi who lived years in Karachi and know how MQM emerged in Karachi politics and what was facts urdu speaking population start taking about their genuine rights. Karachi is not personal property of any one they vote to them who stand for their rights and MQM is one and last option. Did Hazrat IK did ever talk about Karachi,s real problems? He can't coz it's a damn bitter pill to take, and don't quote me again if you start talk on personal matters.
( jo ke mushkil hai coz ptians can't debate without insulting or abuse someone)

First time seeing a so-called punjabi who is so badly in love with MQM.
 
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