rangers and agencies still disappearing people after TeP 90 days remand laws

[Faiez]

nope

she got a trial.

 

[Jf Thunder]

she got a trial.

nope, not a fair trial

 

[TheNoob]

This guy is a lost cause.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Have you seen anyone from the 'Indian agencies' paying them? If not you need to tone down your rhetoric. It's sounds pretty silly.

Have you ever seen Pakistani Agencies paying LET and JD? But you seem to believe these assertions as facts, you really need to educate yourself on how the world of espionage works.

These accusations are not silly at all, in fact we have had detailed discussions with the Americans and Afghans in regards to our concerns. We have interrogated several several senior TTP and BLA/BRP leaders who have stated that they received money and weapons from the Indian consulates located in Afghanistan. We have shown pictures of Indian diplomats meeting for lunch with BLA Leaders to Petraus and Mullen. It make sense, India is paying back Pakistan for the 90's. But India will soon realize this policy is flawed

 

[Faiez]

nope, not a fair trial

a trial that is allegedly unfair.

vs

no trial at all, the suspect missing and most likely dead and all that within his own country.

Why is it so hard for you guys to imagine that some intelligence guy might be corrupt and kidnapping people for money ?

You guys are very quick to blame CIA for 9/11, how transparent is your own intelligence ?

People have blind faith in army and intelligence. That is making them too powerful.

 

[OrionHunter]

Have you ever seen Pakistani Agencies paying LET and JD? But you seem to believe these assertions as facts, you really need to educate yourself on how the world of espionage works.

It's clear as the lines on the palm of my hand that you know squat about the LeT/JeM HM etc. Read their history, even though reading seems to be a pain for you. You need to get educated on this matter as your knowledge seems to be pathetic. Or is it because, as usual, you are trying hard to obfuscate the issue by planting red herrings?

These terror groups have been raised, funded, and trained by your Establishment as 'strategic assets' solely for the purpose of the PA's proxy war against India and Afghanistan. This strategy has been going on since the past three decades. Now go ask your generals what exactly these 'strategic assets' are.

Ok, don't bother. I'll give you the gen. Pak's 'strategic assets' are:

1. Afghan Taliban (Haqqani/Omar) pitched against Afghanistan.
2. LeT/JuD/JeM pitched against against India.

You want proof? Do you even have any idea how many weapons and ammo has been captured from these terrorists in Kashmir? Arms seized from Terrorists in J&K in last 25 years is enough to raise a large army. According to state home department officials, security forces have seized over 32,000 AK rifles of various series from these sponsored mercenary terrorists and their hideouts in the state since the eruption of militancy in 1990.

The security forces have also seized nearly 11,500 pistols, 1,027 universal machine guns, 79 carbines, 219 light machine guns, 69 general purpose machine guns, 295 rifles of .303 make and nearly 400 sniper rifles over the past 25 years, enough to raise an army of more than 50,000 active personnel.

So where did this huge number of weapons come from? Surely not from Mars.

And by the way, even Mush in a signed agreement with India in 2004 promised to stop all terror related activities emanating from Pakistani soil. But we know how you guys keep promises, even those written in black and white!

And please don't advise me to learn how espionage works. You don't know me so I suggest you keep your advice to yourself.

Thanks.

 

[SMC]

^^ How does TTP get all its weapons?

 

[Jf Thunder]

a trial that is allegedly unfair.

vs

no trial at all, the suspect missing and most likely dead and all that within his own country.

Why is it so hard for you guys to imagine that some intelligence guy might be corrupt and kidnapping people for money ?

You guys are very quick to blame CIA for 9/11, how transparent is your own intelligence ?

People have blind faith in army and intelligence. That is making them too powerful.

Dude,
Aafia was a Pakistani, picked up from Pakistan by USA,
These people are Pakistani(maybe foreigners) , picked up from within Pakistan by Pakistani agencies.

 

[Pakistani shaheens]

Have you ever seen Pakistani Agencies paying LET and JD? But you seem to believe these assertions as facts, you really need to educate yourself on how the world of espionage works.

These accusations are not silly at all, in fact we have had detailed discussions with the Americans and Afghans in regards to our concerns. We have interrogated several several senior TTP and BLA/BRP leaders who have stated that they received money and weapons from the Indian consulates located in Afghanistan. We have shown pictures of Indian diplomats meeting for lunch with BLA Leaders to Petraus and Mullen. It make sense, India is paying back Pakistan for the 90's. But India will soon realize this policy is flawed

Sir you are absolutely right!
They are actually funding TTP and BLA to destabilize our country just like what they have done in past by funding and backing a well known terrorists, mukhti bahini

 

[Faiez]

Dude,
Aafia was a Pakistani, picked up from Pakistan by USA,
These people are Pakistani(maybe foreigners) , picked up from within Pakistan by Pakistani agencies.

So pakistanis are not safe even in their own homes. They are picked up illegally and killed without trial and without any consequence for the kidnappers/killers.

Does that happen in USA ? An American being kidnapped in USA on the basis of nothing by CIA. And the person never found ever again.

 

[Jf Thunder]

So pakistanis are not safe even in their own homes. They are picked up illegally and killed without trial and without any consequence for the kidnappers/killers.

Does that happen in USA ? An American being kidnapped in USA on the basis of nothing by CIA. And the person never found ever again.

who knows?

 

[Faiez]

who knows?

Americans know it doesn't happen. They have laws there.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Americans know it doesn't happen. They have laws there.

so do we, so CIA doesn't follow laws, neither does the ISI

 

[notorious_eagle]

It's clear as the lines on the palm of my hand that you know squat about the LeT/JeM HM etc. Read their history, even though reading seems to be a pain for you. You need to get educated on this matter as your knowledge seems to be pathetic. Or is it because, as usual, you are trying hard to obfuscate the issue by planting red herrings?

After reading your response, it is quite clear that you are the one in need of reading up and might i suggest reading from a Non Biased Source instead of the propaganda that is churned out by your Propaganda Machinery.

These terror groups have been raised, funded, and trained by your Establishment as 'strategic assets' solely for the purpose of the PA's proxy war against India and Afghanistan. This strategy has been going on since the past three decades. Now go ask your generals what exactly these 'strategic assets' are.

I for one will admit that it was a policy failure on our part that we created these groups and considered them 'Strategic Assets'. There is no doubt about it, but i asked you whether you have proof or not? This is how the world of espionage works, you don't leave any trails of proof.

If you had any proof, you would have taken that to the SC and would have Pakistan declared a terrorist state. Although the Indian Foreign Office tried its utmost best in the 90's, it was never able to acquire a smoking gun to implicate Pakistan with LET. But at-least, we admit are shortcomings and are working on correcting those mistakes while you people even refuse to admit that elements within RAW have supported Anti State Elements inside Pakistan. Do you need a refresher course that it was India which started this whole concept of supporting Anti State Groups in other countries. It is the only country in South Asia that has used covert and overt means to change the political landscape of other neighbouring countries. Oh wait, you Indian's don't like to talk about these topics. HYPOCRITES

1. Afghan Taliban (Haqqani/Omar) pitched against Afghanistan.

Afghanistan was an absolute clusterf*** during the early 90's. The only thing we wanted was a stable border on our West which we had till 9-11 happened. The last thing we wanted was to send our Army to expel invaders like we did during the early 60's. It might look like a bad policy now, but during the 90's Taliban were our best option for a secure and stable border.

2. LeT/JuD/JeM pitched against against India.

True, but where is the proof? This policy was long abandoned and Musharraf played a key role in reigning in these groups operating from Kashmir. There was a consensus among the General Staff after Kargil that an armed conflict cannot alter the balance of power. Thus, a decision was taken to abandon these groups from State sponsorship.

You want proof? Do you even have any idea how many weapons and ammo has been captured from these terrorists in Kashmir? Arms seized from Terrorists in J&K in last 25 years is enough to raise a large army. According to state home department officials, security forces have seized over 32,000 AK rifles of various series from these sponsored mercenary terrorists and their hideouts in the state since the eruption of militancy in 1990.

The security forces have also seized nearly 11,500 pistols, 1,027 universal machine guns, 79 carbines, 219 light machine guns, 69 general purpose machine guns, 295 rifles of .303 make and nearly 400 sniper rifles over the past 25 years, enough to raise an army of more than 50,000 active personnel.

So where did this huge number of weapons come from? Surely not from Mars.

Good, but can you link these back to Pakistan? If you can, than i suggest that you take this proof and present it in-front of the GA and SC. Surely you wouldn't have any problems having Pakistan declared a 'Terrorist Nation'.

It is baffling how you are not even willing to acknowledge your nations role in destabilizing Pakistan through Afghanistan. I had the honour of having lunch with an Officer who was a CO during the operation conducted in Bajaur in 2010. He stated that several high ranking TTP members captured confessed during interrogation that they received money and weapons from Indian sources based in Afghanistan. This is right from the horse's mouth, it does not get anymore credible than this.

And by the way, even Mush in a signed agreement with India in 2004 promised to stop all terror related activities emanating from Pakistani soil. But we know how you guys keep promises, even those written in black and white!

We have tried our best to reign them down, this is why violence has gone down in Kashmir. Hope you can return us the same courtesy.

And please don't advise me to learn how espionage works. You don't know me so I suggest you keep your advice to yourself.

Thanks.

Indeed, and after reading your amateurish fanboy response, i don't even wanna know you.

Good Day

 

[anilindia]

Where is Ajmal Kasab family. Disappeared.....

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