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Range missile "BrahMos" will not increase

The technology is shared between Russians and Indians....If India tries to increase the range,the Russians will know...

To true, but who's suggesting the Russians aren't already in the loop? Russia is willing to give India access to its very latest tech (AESA radars, fith gen fighters etc) so it is clearly very much willing to give India whatever it can. The only issue in this case is the MTCR so Russia has to keep things hush-hush.

No i don't think that was the air launched version.It was some Brahmos 2 which will have around 500km range.The reports we not official but still ...and the air launched version is a slightly cut down version.It will have a weight of around 2.5T as compared to the 3T of the land variant since the max weight that can be on the central hardpoint of sukhoi 30MKI is 2500kg.But since it will be air launched from a supersonic MKI it can still achieve 300km range even in scaled down version.
The air-launched Bhramos is a real game-changer. You're talking about a 300km (at the very least!) supersonic CM able to be carried by one of the world's most advanced fighters (later Rafale and MIG-29K may get such a capability too!) so the reach of the Bhramos ALCM is only limited by the range of the MKI (which already has excellent range).
 
So let me get this right, you guys want to him to openly acknowledge that India is breaking the MTCR and get Russia into trouble? :cuckoo:

Well let ME get this right, you think russia will violate such an important treaty for India's sake?

The reason countries sign such treaties is because they trust each other. They will not jeopardize fragile trust for our sake. If it transpires that Russia violated the mtcr, then a lot of other treaties like nuclear reduction, "start" etc will go out of the window.

USA will start arming Russia's adversaries with long range cruise missiles, for starters. The reason countries sign mutually agreed treaties is because they understand that it is in their own interest to do so, and well worth losing some sales. For example, Russia will not sell an ICBM to Saudi for a trillion dollars. Because a lot more than a trillion will be at stake for the world and Russia.

Countries like north korea or Pakistan can conduct clandestine transfer of nuclear know-how and violate several international laws, because they have nothing to lose. Not so for important powers like Russia.
 
Well let ME get this right, you think russia will violate such an important treaty for India's sake?

The reason countries sign such treaties is because they trust each other. They will not jeopardize fragile trust for our sake. If it transpires that Russia violated the mtcr, then a lot of other treaties like nuclear reduction, "start" etc will go out of the window.

USA will start arming Russia's adversaries with long range cruise missiles, for starters. The reason countries sign mutually agreed treaties is because they understand that it is in their own interest to do so, and well worth losing some sales. For example, Russia will not sell an ICBM to Saudi for a trillion dollars. Because a lot more than a trillion will be at stake for the world and Russia.

Countries like north korea or Pakistan can conduct clandestine transfer of nuclear know-how and violate several international laws, because they have nothing to lose. Not so for important powers like Russia.
Bro this is a very naive and simplistic declaration of the world. You and I both know things go on behind closed doors that contradict whatever agreements may be in place concerning the said nation(s). It comes down to a cost benefit analysis at the end of the day- does Russia stand to gain more from working with India on a number of projects or is it it more likely to get caught?

Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the West actually knew about the Bhramos getting extended range because who is India going to use these weapons against? Pakistan and China most likely- enough said!

Again, playing the devil's advocate.
 
Well let ME get this right, you think russia will violate such an important treaty for India's sake?

The reason countries sign such treaties is because they trust each other. They will not jeopardize fragile trust for our sake. If it transpires that Russia violated the mtcr, then a lot of other treaties like nuclear reduction, "start" etc will go out of the window.

USA will start arming Russia's adversaries with long range cruise missiles, for starters. The reason countries sign mutually agreed treaties is because they understand that it is in their own interest to do so, and well worth losing some sales. For example, Russia will not sell an ICBM to Saudi for a trillion dollars. Because a lot more than a trillion will be at stake for the world and Russia.

Countries like north korea or Pakistan can conduct clandestine transfer of nuclear know-how and violate several international laws, because they have nothing to lose. Not so for important powers like Russia.

Yes they would. Thats what allies do. Like France supplied storm shadow to Saudis and America decided to turn a blind eye.

Storm Shadow, Saudi & the MTCR
 
Just to play the devil's advocate- if, big IF , India wanted to increase the range (with the Russians help) both sides would have to keep silent on this as Russia is a member of the Missile Technology Control Regime. As such both sides would have to publicly make these sort of declarations.


I for one wouldn't rule out the Bhramos having a range way in excess of 300km and I'm sure India's potential adversaries won't either.

MTCR and other arms control agreements between USA and Russia are not based on blind trust..
Both countries have well established procedures to varify each other's arms exports..
If India increases Brahmos range....it will be known...and cant be kept secret.
 
@Roybot from the very article you posted (good one btw!):

Exhibit A is Brahmos — a Russo-Indian cruise missile with a range greater than 150 miles (Russia and India claim 290 kilometers, just under the MTCR threshold.)


Although Brahmos is MTCR-compliant, it is easily modified to extend the range.


“India is one thing, she is our strategic partnership and poses no military threat to Russia,


but we are not keen on giving it to other countries,


be it China or any other friendly nation,” Colonel-General Anatoly Mazurkevich told PTI.


Hmm- Russia treating India differently to other nations and offering more? How very odd.


Mazurkevich, who heads international cooperation department of the Russian defence ministry, said that one of the reasons for not Russia not keen to export this weapon, “highly lethal for potential enemies”, is that its range could be easily extended from the current 300 km, allowed under Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR).

Reading between the lines here an interesting picture emerges ;);)

MTCR and other arms control agreements between USA and Russia are not based on blind trust..
Both countries have well established procedures to varify each other's arms exports..
If India increases Brahmos range....it will be known...and cant be kept secret.

How exactly? Much. if not all, of the production of the Bhramos is done in India. As India is not a member of the MTCR such "established procedures" and the like do not apply to India and as such any inspections or any other such mechanisms have no authority in India. I bet my house that India and Russia will keep saying the Bhramos is limited to 300km range..............until/if ever it is proven otherwise in a practical/live demo.

MTCR and other arms control agreements between USA and Russia are not based on blind trust..
Both countries have well established procedures to varify each other's arms exports..
If India increases Brahmos range....it will be known...and cant be kept secret.

Also do you not see the irony in what you're saying- why would the US weigh in on the Bhramos issue even if they knew the range had been extended? It only meets their interests for India to have such potent weapons.
 
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@Dreamreaper @janon, let's be honest. The MTCR is only, these days, applied VERY selectively to certain regions and nations. If you are seen as one of the "good guys" buy the "big boys- Russia, US,France etc" then they have no issue with such blatent MTCR violations. If you're seen as a "bad guy" then don't expect any help from the aforementioned "big boys"!


Just look at the Lockheed Martin Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM)- this is is covered under the MTCR and yet the Aussies, Dutch and Fins have the system!


Simiarly, technically speaking, the Canadian sale of the Pratt & Whitney PT6 engine for the 7000+ km range Israeli IAI Eitan is a blatant MCTR violation as the Israelis themselves have claimed they can mount an explosive payload to the system.

To call it hypocrisy wouldn't be inaccurate but a more fair term would be pragmatism.
 
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The Missile Technology Control Regime

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQs)

1) What is the MTCR?

The Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) is an informal political understanding among states that seek to limit the proliferation of missiles and missile technology.

2) When was the MTCR established?

The regime was formed in 1987 by the G-7 industrialized countries (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK, and the United States).

3) Who belongs to the MTCR?

There are currently 34 countries that are members (Partners) of the MTCR: Argentina (1993); Australia (1990); Austria (1991); Belgium (1990); Brazil (1995); Bulgaria (2004); Canada (1987); Czech Republic (1998); Denmark (1990); Finland (1991); France (1987); Germany (1987); Greece 1992); Hungary (1993); Iceland (1993); Ireland (1992); Italy (1987); Japan (1987); Luxemburg (1990); Netherlands (1990); New Zealand (1991); Norway (1990); Poland (1998); Portugal (1992); Republic of Korea (2001); Russian Federation (1995); South Africa (1995); Spain (1990); Sweden (1991); Switzerland (1992); Turkey (1997); Ukraine (1998); United Kingdom (1987); United States of America (1987). The date in brackets represents the initial year of membership.

4) What is the purpose of the MTCR?

The MTCR was initiated by like-minded countries to address the increasing proliferation of nuclear weapons by addressing the most destabilizing delivery system for such weapons. In 1992, the MTCR’s original focus on missiles for nuclear weapons delivery was extended to a focus on the proliferation of missiles for the delivery of all types of] weapons of mass destruction (WMD), i.e., nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Such proliferation has been identified as a threat to international peace and security. One way to counter this threat is to maintain vigilance over the transfer of missile equipment, material, and related technologies usable for systems capable of delivering WMD.

5) What is the relationship between the MTCR and the UN?

While there is no formal linkage, the activities of the MTCR are consistent with the UN’s non-proliferation and export control efforts. For example, applying the MTCR Guidelines and Annex on a national basis helps countries to meet their export control obligations under UN Security Council Resolution 1540.

6) Is the MTCR a treaty?

No. The MTCR is not a treaty and does not impose any legally binding obligations on Partners (members). Rather, it is an informal political understanding among states that seek to limit the proliferation of missiles and missile technology.

7) What are the main objectives of the MTCR?

The MTCR seeks to limit the risks of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) by controlling exports of goods and technologies that could make a contribution to delivery systems (other than manned aircraft) for such weapons. In this context, the Regime places particular focus on rockets and unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a range of at least 300 km and on equipment, software, and technology for such systems.

8) How does the MTCR achieve its objectives?

Export Controls The Regime rests on adherence to common export policy (the Guidelines) applied to an integral common list of items (the MTCR Equipment, Software, and Technology Annex.)

Meetings MTCR Partners regularly exchange information about relevant missile non-proliferation issues in the context of the Regime’s overall aims.

Dialogue and Outreach The MTCR Chair and MTCR Partners undertake outreach activities to non-Partners in order to keep them informed about the group s activities and to provide practical assistance regarding efforts to prevent the proliferation of WMD delivery systems.

9) What are the MTCR Guidelines?

The MTCR Guidelines are the common export control policy adhered to by the MTCR Partners, and to which all countries are encouraged to adhere unilaterally. The Guidelines define the purpose of the MTCR and provide the overall structure and rules to guide the member countries and those adhering unilaterally to the Guidelines.

10) What is the MTCR Annex?

The MTCR Annex is the Regime’s list of controlled items including virtually all key equipment, materials, software, and technology needed for missile development, production, and operation - that are controlled by MTCR Partners and adherents. The Annex is divided into two parts: Category I and Category II items.

11) How are Annex items controlled?

Consistent with the MTCR Guidelines, MTCR Partners and adherents are to implement license authorization requirements prior to export of items listed in the MTCR Annex.

12) Are there provisions to control non-Annex items?

In 2003, MTCR Partners amended the Guidelines to require all Partners to have catch-all export controls. These controls form the basis for controlling the export of items not included on a control list when they may be intended for use in connection with delivery systems for WMD other than manned aircraft. Additionally, consistent with the Guidelines, Partners are to exercise particular restraint in consideration of any items on the Annex or of any missiles (whether or not on the Annex) if the exporting government judges that they are intended to be used for WMD delivery – and such exports are to be subject to a strong presumption of denial.

13) What is the difference between MTCR Category I and Category II Items?

Category I items include complete rocket and unmanned aerial vehicle systems (including ballistic missiles, space launch vehicles, sounding rockets, cruise missiles, target drones, and reconnaissance drones), capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a range of at least 300 km, their major complete subsystems (such as rocket stages, engines, guidance sets, and re-entry vehicles), and related software and technology, as well as specially designed production facilities for these items. Pursuant to the MTCR Guidelines, exports of Category I items are subject to an unconditional strong presumption of denial regardless of the purpose of the export and are licensed for export only on rare occasions. Additionally, exports of production facilities for Category I items are prohibited absolutely.

Category II items include other less-sensitive and dual-use missile related components, as well as other complete missile systems capable of a range of at least 300 km, regardless of payload. Their export is subject to licensing requirements taking into consideration the non-proliferation factors specified in the MTCR Guidelines. Exports judged by the exporting country to be intended for use in WMD delivery are to be subjected to a strong presumption of denial.

14) Are exports to Partners treated differently than exports to non Partners?

The MTCR Guidelines do not distinguish between exports to Partners and exports to non-Partners. Moreover, the MTCR Partners have explicitly affirmed that membership in the Regime provides no entitlement to obtain technology from another Partner and no obligation to supply it. Partners are expected to exercise appropriate accountability and restraint in trade among Partners, just as they would in trade between Partners and non-Partners. Partners are bound by a “no-undercut” policy to consult each other before considering exporting an item on the list that has been notified as denied by another Partner pursuant to the MTCR Guidelines.

15) Are the MTCR’s Guidelines binding?

No – the MTCR is not a treaty and does not impose any legally binding obligations on Partners. The only activity prohibited absolutely by the Guidelines, to which all 34 Partner countries voluntarily subscribe, is the export of production facilities for Category I MTCR Annex items.

16) What obligations do Partners have?

There are no legally binding obligations imposed on MTCR Partners. However, Partners are expected to act responsibly and practice restraint with regard to exports of items that could contribute to the proliferation of missiles capable of delivering WMD and to abide by all consensus decisions of the Regime. They set the standard for responsible non-proliferation behaviour and help shape the international missile non-proliferation effort while conducting their missile non-proliferation policies in a manner consistent with the Regime s overall goals and activities. Partners also are expected to control all exports of equipment and technology controlled on the MTCR Annex according to the stipulations of the MTCR Guidelines.

17) How are export decisions taken?

Export licensing decisions are made by individual countries according to their national export control laws and regulations, and not as group. However, Partners regularly exchange information on relevant licensing matters in order to ensure consistency with the Regime’s overall non-proliferation goals.

18) How is compliance enforced?

Each individual Partner implements the MTCR Guidelines and Annex in accordance with national legislation and practice and on the basis of sovereign national discretion. The MTCR has no regime-wide compliance or verification provisions. When questions arise, Partners consult bilaterally to promote a common understanding of the issue.

19) What benefits do Partners get by becoming members of the MTCR?

Partners can play an active role in curbing the global missile non-proliferation threat. MTCR Partners participate in decision-making on the orientation and future of the MTCR, thereby setting the international standard for responsible missile non-proliferation behaviour and helping to guide the international missile non-proliferation effort. Partners also benefit from discussions and exchanges of information on licensing, interdiction, best practices, and cooperate to impede specific shipments of concern with regards to missile proliferation.

20) Can a country adhere to the Guidelines without joining the MTCR?

The MTCR Partners encourage all countries to observe the Guidelines as a contribution to international peace and security. Countries can apply the Guidelines on a national basis without being obligated to join the Regime.

21) Does the MTCR have an observer status?

No. However, Regime members encourage all countries to adhere unilaterally to the MTCR Guidelines and Annex.

22) When and how often do the MTCR Partners meet?

The MTCR s main meeting is the annual policy-level Plenary meeting, held to discuss and take decisions on all relevant Regime issues. Three Regime sub-groups hold meetings in conjunction with the annual Plenary - the Information Exchange (IE), the Licensing and Enforcement Experts Meeting (LEEM), and the Technical Experts Meetings (TEM). Additionally, there are periodic Reinforced Point of Contact (RPOC) and Monthly Point of Contact (POC) meetings.

23) Is there a central administrative body for the MTCR?

The MTCR has no formal secretariat. France serves as the Regime’s Point of Contact (POC). The POC receives and distributes all Regime documents. The POC also participates in outreach activities and hosts intersessional meetings.

24) What is the Reinforced Point of Contact (RPOC) Meeting?

The RPOC is the MTCR’s intersessional policy-level meeting. It is hosted by France and is normally held in Paris in April or May. RPOC meetings are used primarily to follow up on issues from the previous Plenary and plan for the next Plenary.

25) What is a Point of Contact (POC) Meeting?

POC meetings facilitate the exchange of information among Partners. They are regularly held in Paris, hosted by the French MTCR POC, and include the participation of Embassy Representatives of MTCR countries.

26) Who is the MTCR Chair? How are they chosen?

The MTCR Chairmanship rotates on an ad hoc basis. Normally the country that hosts the Plenary then serves as Chair for the ensuing year.

27) How are decisions made in the MTCR?

All MTCR decisions including decisions on membership require a consensus decision by all current Regime members.

28) How often does the MTCR meet with non-members?

The MTCR Partners engage in a robust outreach program to promote the Regime’s goals and encourage broad support for its activities. The Regime also uses its outreach efforts to encourage countries to unilaterally adhere to the MTCR Guidelines. In 2009, following the MTCR RPOC meeting, the Partners held a Technical Outreach Meeting (TOM) for non-Partners to make them aware of the changes to the MTCR Annex that had taken place at the 2007 and 2008 plenaries and to explain how these changes would affect licensing reviews. Fifteen non-MTCR countries participated in the TOM.
 
The Missile Technology Control Regime

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQs)

1) What is the MTCR?

The Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) is an informal political understanding among states that seek to limit the proliferation of missiles and missile technology.

2) When was the MTCR established?

The regime was formed in 1987 by the G-7 industrialized countries (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK, and the United States).

3) Who belongs to the MTCR?

There are currently 34 countries that are members (Partners) of the MTCR: Argentina (1993); Australia (1990); Austria (1991); Belgium (1990); Brazil (1995); Bulgaria (2004); Canada (1987); Czech Republic (1998); Denmark (1990); Finland (1991); France (1987); Germany (1987); Greece 1992); Hungary (1993); Iceland (1993); Ireland (1992); Italy (1987); Japan (1987); Luxemburg (1990); Netherlands (1990); New Zealand (1991); Norway (1990); Poland (1998); Portugal (1992); Republic of Korea (2001); Russian Federation (1995); South Africa (1995); Spain (1990); Sweden (1991); Switzerland (1992); Turkey (1997); Ukraine (1998); United Kingdom (1987); United States of America (1987). The date in brackets represents the initial year of membership.

4) What is the purpose of the MTCR?

The MTCR was initiated by like-minded countries to address the increasing proliferation of nuclear weapons by addressing the most destabilizing delivery system for such weapons. In 1992, the MTCR’s original focus on missiles for nuclear weapons delivery was extended to a focus on the proliferation of missiles for the delivery of all types of] weapons of mass destruction (WMD), i.e., nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Such proliferation has been identified as a threat to international peace and security. One way to counter this threat is to maintain vigilance over the transfer of missile equipment, material, and related technologies usable for systems capable of delivering WMD.

5) What is the relationship between the MTCR and the UN?

While there is no formal linkage, the activities of the MTCR are consistent with the UN’s non-proliferation and export control efforts. For example, applying the MTCR Guidelines and Annex on a national basis helps countries to meet their export control obligations under UN Security Council Resolution 1540.

6) Is the MTCR a treaty?

No. The MTCR is not a treaty and does not impose any legally binding obligations on Partners (members). Rather, it is an informal political understanding among states that seek to limit the proliferation of missiles and missile technology.

7) What are the main objectives of the MTCR?

The MTCR seeks to limit the risks of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) by controlling exports of goods and technologies that could make a contribution to delivery systems (other than manned aircraft) for such weapons. In this context, the Regime places particular focus on rockets and unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a range of at least 300 km and on equipment, software, and technology for such systems.

8) How does the MTCR achieve its objectives?

Export Controls The Regime rests on adherence to common export policy (the Guidelines) applied to an integral common list of items (the MTCR Equipment, Software, and Technology Annex.)

Meetings MTCR Partners regularly exchange information about relevant missile non-proliferation issues in the context of the Regime’s overall aims.

Dialogue and Outreach The MTCR Chair and MTCR Partners undertake outreach activities to non-Partners in order to keep them informed about the group s activities and to provide practical assistance regarding efforts to prevent the proliferation of WMD delivery systems.

9) What are the MTCR Guidelines?

The MTCR Guidelines are the common export control policy adhered to by the MTCR Partners, and to which all countries are encouraged to adhere unilaterally. The Guidelines define the purpose of the MTCR and provide the overall structure and rules to guide the member countries and those adhering unilaterally to the Guidelines.

10) What is the MTCR Annex?

The MTCR Annex is the Regime’s list of controlled items including virtually all key equipment, materials, software, and technology needed for missile development, production, and operation - that are controlled by MTCR Partners and adherents. The Annex is divided into two parts: Category I and Category II items.

11) How are Annex items controlled?

Consistent with the MTCR Guidelines, MTCR Partners and adherents are to implement license authorization requirements prior to export of items listed in the MTCR Annex.

12) Are there provisions to control non-Annex items?

In 2003, MTCR Partners amended the Guidelines to require all Partners to have catch-all export controls. These controls form the basis for controlling the export of items not included on a control list when they may be intended for use in connection with delivery systems for WMD other than manned aircraft. Additionally, consistent with the Guidelines, Partners are to exercise particular restraint in consideration of any items on the Annex or of any missiles (whether or not on the Annex) if the exporting government judges that they are intended to be used for WMD delivery – and such exports are to be subject to a strong presumption of denial.

13) What is the difference between MTCR Category I and Category II Items?

Category I items include complete rocket and unmanned aerial vehicle systems (including ballistic missiles, space launch vehicles, sounding rockets, cruise missiles, target drones, and reconnaissance drones), capable of delivering a payload of at least 500 kg to a range of at least 300 km, their major complete subsystems (such as rocket stages, engines, guidance sets, and re-entry vehicles), and related software and technology, as well as specially designed production facilities for these items. Pursuant to the MTCR Guidelines, exports of Category I items are subject to an unconditional strong presumption of denial regardless of the purpose of the export and are licensed for export only on rare occasions. Additionally, exports of production facilities for Category I items are prohibited absolutely.

Category II items include other less-sensitive and dual-use missile related components, as well as other complete missile systems capable of a range of at least 300 km, regardless of payload. Their export is subject to licensing requirements taking into consideration the non-proliferation factors specified in the MTCR Guidelines. Exports judged by the exporting country to be intended for use in WMD delivery are to be subjected to a strong presumption of denial.

14) Are exports to Partners treated differently than exports to non Partners?

The MTCR Guidelines do not distinguish between exports to Partners and exports to non-Partners. Moreover, the MTCR Partners have explicitly affirmed that membership in the Regime provides no entitlement to obtain technology from another Partner and no obligation to supply it. Partners are expected to exercise appropriate accountability and restraint in trade among Partners, just as they would in trade between Partners and non-Partners. Partners are bound by a “no-undercut” policy to consult each other before considering exporting an item on the list that has been notified as denied by another Partner pursuant to the MTCR Guidelines.

15) Are the MTCR’s Guidelines binding?

No – the MTCR is not a treaty and does not impose any legally binding obligations on Partners. The only activity prohibited absolutely by the Guidelines, to which all 34 Partner countries voluntarily subscribe, is the export of production facilities for Category I MTCR Annex items.

16) What obligations do Partners have?

There are no legally binding obligations imposed on MTCR Partners. However, Partners are expected to act responsibly and practice restraint with regard to exports of items that could contribute to the proliferation of missiles capable of delivering WMD and to abide by all consensus decisions of the Regime. They set the standard for responsible non-proliferation behaviour and help shape the international missile non-proliferation effort while conducting their missile non-proliferation policies in a manner consistent with the Regime s overall goals and activities. Partners also are expected to control all exports of equipment and technology controlled on the MTCR Annex according to the stipulations of the MTCR Guidelines.

17) How are export decisions taken?

Export licensing decisions are made by individual countries according to their national export control laws and regulations, and not as group. However, Partners regularly exchange information on relevant licensing matters in order to ensure consistency with the Regime’s overall non-proliferation goals.

18) How is compliance enforced?

Each individual Partner implements the MTCR Guidelines and Annex in accordance with national legislation and practice and on the basis of sovereign national discretion. The MTCR has no regime-wide compliance or verification provisions. When questions arise, Partners consult bilaterally to promote a common understanding of the issue.

19) What benefits do Partners get by becoming members of the MTCR?

Partners can play an active role in curbing the global missile non-proliferation threat. MTCR Partners participate in decision-making on the orientation and future of the MTCR, thereby setting the international standard for responsible missile non-proliferation behaviour and helping to guide the international missile non-proliferation effort. Partners also benefit from discussions and exchanges of information on licensing, interdiction, best practices, and cooperate to impede specific shipments of concern with regards to missile proliferation.

20) Can a country adhere to the Guidelines without joining the MTCR?

The MTCR Partners encourage all countries to observe the Guidelines as a contribution to international peace and security. Countries can apply the Guidelines on a national basis without being obligated to join the Regime.

21) Does the MTCR have an observer status?

No. However, Regime members encourage all countries to adhere unilaterally to the MTCR Guidelines and Annex.

22) When and how often do the MTCR Partners meet?

The MTCR s main meeting is the annual policy-level Plenary meeting, held to discuss and take decisions on all relevant Regime issues. Three Regime sub-groups hold meetings in conjunction with the annual Plenary - the Information Exchange (IE), the Licensing and Enforcement Experts Meeting (LEEM), and the Technical Experts Meetings (TEM). Additionally, there are periodic Reinforced Point of Contact (RPOC) and Monthly Point of Contact (POC) meetings.

23) Is there a central administrative body for the MTCR?

The MTCR has no formal secretariat. France serves as the Regime’s Point of Contact (POC). The POC receives and distributes all Regime documents. The POC also participates in outreach activities and hosts intersessional meetings.

24) What is the Reinforced Point of Contact (RPOC) Meeting?

The RPOC is the MTCR’s intersessional policy-level meeting. It is hosted by France and is normally held in Paris in April or May. RPOC meetings are used primarily to follow up on issues from the previous Plenary and plan for the next Plenary.

25) What is a Point of Contact (POC) Meeting?

POC meetings facilitate the exchange of information among Partners. They are regularly held in Paris, hosted by the French MTCR POC, and include the participation of Embassy Representatives of MTCR countries.

26) Who is the MTCR Chair? How are they chosen?

The MTCR Chairmanship rotates on an ad hoc basis. Normally the country that hosts the Plenary then serves as Chair for the ensuing year.

27) How are decisions made in the MTCR?

All MTCR decisions including decisions on membership require a consensus decision by all current Regime members.

28) How often does the MTCR meet with non-members?

The MTCR Partners engage in a robust outreach program to promote the Regime’s goals and encourage broad support for its activities. The Regime also uses its outreach efforts to encourage countries to unilaterally adhere to the MTCR Guidelines. In 2009, following the MTCR RPOC meeting, the Partners held a Technical Outreach Meeting (TOM) for non-Partners to make them aware of the changes to the MTCR Annex that had taken place at the 2007 and 2008 plenaries and to explain how these changes would affect licensing reviews. Fifteen non-MTCR countries participated in the TOM.
Very Informative .Lot of my doubts are cleared now.
 
And I said this months ago. You can not just circumvent MTCR by changing the packaging or loading more fuel. People who wrote those "binding treaties" were no fools.

In real life there are always two options, either you break the rule or you don't. There is no such thing as middle path.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know brahmos is a joint venture between Russia and india. That means India and Russia would share the technology and jointly develop and produce brahmos Missle. That means india co-owned the Missle technology Right? So why can't we develop an indigenous Missle using that technology with greater range ?
DRDO should start a new program to develop brahmos like supersonic cruise Missle and give it indian name lol

@sancho, the gentelman has an excellent point, can we revive the joint venture vs product development argument here to this exact comment. Why hasn't DRDO been able to develop a 10000 kg 650km supersonic cruise missile like p700 granit, if joint development has any learning potential....

Just to play the devil's advocate- if, big IF , India wanted to increase the range (with the Russians help) both sides would have to keep silent on this as Russia is a member of the Missile Technology Control Regime. As such both sides would have to publicly make these sort of declarations.


I for one wouldn't rule out the Bhramos having a range way in excess of 300km and I'm sure India's potential adversaries won't either.

I would, based on the platform, and the weight of the system, it suggests to have half the range of the p700 granit.
 
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Why cant be simply manufacture a brand new missile based on Brahmos with excessive range???
 
And I said this months ago. You can not just circumvent MTCR by changing the packaging or loading more fuel. People who wrote those "binding treaties" were no fools.

In real life there are always two options, either you break the rule or you don't. There is no such thing as middle path.

Since neither US nor UN can check the brahmos, the range of Brahmos for the whole world is what India says is the range of Brahmos.
 
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