RAM MANDIR in Ayodhya soon? Supreme Court offers to mediate, seeks urgent hearing next week

[NakedLunch]

It's about Historical wrongs that need to be righted.
We internally have done it with Dalits by empowering them due to the wrongs committed on them. The wrongs on Dalits were not committed by my generation or previous generation or generation before that.
BUT historically, wrongs were committed and it's only fair they are righted.

Muslim rule in India was for centuries. There must be centuries of wrongs that you need to right. I hope the Muslims of India capitualte, sorry, co-operate.

 

[ranjeet]

Learn from the Turks . This is the Haiga Sofia, first the biggest church in Constantinople. Muslims overran the place and converted it into a mosque. For several centuries it was a sore issue. The Turks just changed it into a monument and closed the issue- in a muslim majority state. there is a grand mosque right next to this building and a church not too far off. Both muslims and christains went completely quiet on evey thing after that.

Turkey is 99.8% Muslim, whereas India is 80% hindu. I am sure you can come up with a better argument than this one.

 

[PlugnPlay]

Three thousand or thirty thousand. If Hindu structures were demolished to make way for Islamic ones then pull them down. All of them.

Thirty Thousand.

 

[NakedLunch]

In INDIA. Not germany my freind.

Oh right, my mistake. Sorry. Carry on.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

There is no hiding. Ram Mandir was a part of BJP agenda. They have said that they will go by Supreme Court judgement

There is no ambiguity. Once the judgement or out of court settlement is there they will build the temple

Out of court settlement means 'talk it out'. It can also be a historic compromise by both parties. Build a temple near that location, keep that place neutral. I will personally donate 1 lakh for the construction of such a temple.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Learn from the Turks . This is the Haiga Sofia, first the biggest church in Constantinople. Muslims overran the place and converted it into a mosque. For several centuries it was a sore issue. The Turks just changed it into a monument and closed the issue- in a muslim majority state. there is a grand mosque right next to this building and a church not too far off. Both muslims and christains went completely quiet on evey thing after that.

There are 100s of temples that were destroyed and mosques build over them, you can very well make monuments over them but Ram Janambhoomi is like Mecca or Vatican for Hindus

 

[NakedLunch]

Thirty Thousand.

My point was that it doesnt matter if it 300, 3000, or 30,000. Wherever there is a Muslim building standing over a Hindu sacred site, tear that building down. As a Muslim I would do the same.

 

[Soumitra]

And what if the court judgement goes against you? Will you still build it?

We are confident that the court judgement will come in our favour. That is the reason we are waiting for it. If we wanted we could have gone the congress way in the Shah Bano case and brought an ordinance to overturn the court judgement.

 

[Magi Brahmin]

This is not a battle between left and right anymore. This is a battle for the soul of India and what it means to be Indian. Any Indian Muslim reading these threads will feel more like a refugee rather than an Indian. Your countrymen have a deep seated hatred (and there is no better word to use i'm afraid) for India's Muslims. That is 200 million people. This is not about left and Right anymore. I see the same rumblings of religious communalism that led to the partition of 1947. Dont underestimate the power of civilizational or religious revival to crush anything that stands in its way.

Unlike 1947, they dont haveany clear majority in india.

What they can do ? They asked us to remove police for 15 min to kill us all. We removed for whole day in 1992 after they burned down whole Train.

Needless to say we did and rest is history.

 

[DineshS]

Three thousand or thirty thousand. If Hindu structures were demolished to make way for Islamic ones then pull them down. All of them.

We only care about 3 of them.
truth is that none of the current generation of muslims are NOT responsible for this dewstruction and they should not suffer.
What is also needed is to give a little to Hindus when so much was taken from us.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

There are 100s of temples that were destroyed and mosques build over them, you can very well make monuments over them but Ram Janambhoomi is like Mecca or Vatican for Hindus

a place where it is not even clear that there was a temple before? A place so in the distant that the ASI has to be brought in? Surely the mecca of India is post facto hype created to make it sound important.

And the curch of Constantinople was the Vatican of the east.

 

[ranjeet]

That was until day before yesterday. Now you can expect repeat of Bihar everywhere.

Oh yeah I am sure you dream about all regional parties coming together, I am sure this idea sounds something like this "Secular lalla hum sab ek ho jaayenge, BJP ko harayenge" to your ears.

 

[Magi Brahmin]

Ram Janambhoomi, Does it ring a bell? Building Ram Janambhoomi Temple somewhere else than Ram Janambhoomi will surely make sense

He sleeps on his couch instead of Bad

He Drinks vodka instead of water

He shits in bedroom insted of Bathroom

And he Wears Panty instead of Underwear.

So it makes sence to him.

 

[DineshS]

If you go by that logic some of parents may have converted to Islam.......... would you accept their claim to the land then?

Why would your parents converting to any religion got to do with what's right?
That's not Hindu way of thinking. Your religion, your personal thing. We only care about Dharma, doing the right thing and religion has nothing to do with that.

 

[NakedLunch]

Unlike 1947, they dont haveany clear majority in india.

What they can do ? They asked us to remove police for 15 min to kill us all. We removed for whole day in 1992 after they burned down whole Train.

Needless to say we did and rest is history.

Yes, I saw it live on TV. I remember it very well. Especially that Muslim guy with his hands clasped begging for mercy just before he was butchered. That is the one and only time I have seen the kind of fear in someone eyes that can only happen moments before being slaughtered. Even after 20 years that image sticks in my head. Anyway, that was 1992, this is 2017. Are we going to get a replay?