Raheel Sharif appointed chief of Islamic military alliance, confirms Khawaja Asif

[aziqbal]

You should ask the Arabs...




Well if they want to use him as someone to take the blame then they might put their egos aside.

Forget about the Arabs 300 million of them couldn't handle 6 million Jews over last 60. Years

I'm not talking about the people but the courpt leaders

Many Arab people are very intelligent and follow the proper Islam they are good people in them

Pakistan is the only Muslim nuclear nation full stop it ends there

This is the problem with us , why are we always comparing ourselves to Arabs

We are always looking for others to take the lead and asking "well what have they done " or "why should we do it when they don't " why have this lazy attitude

Pakistan is Pakistan we need to take the lead on things we can bring a very heavy stick to the table

Pakistan has never been as powerful it is today ever in its history

 

[Verve]

let the man retire in peace and enjoy some consulting and advisory fee from the gulf sheiks like millions of desis do - when some of you try to turn it into the second coming of christ it sounds just silly. If you have not learned over so many centuries that the concept of muslim ummah etc are just hallucinated vaporware you will never learn. Want proof? just look at how many so called ummah countries are killing each other right now. The only muslim majority countries that have made any developmental and economic progress are those that control their religious factions and keep them inside strict bounds.

I really don't mean to insult you guys - just want you to see reality. Generations of you have fallen prey for the romanticised nonsensical notions of caliphate and ummah and what not. That leads some poor children, even those born and growing up developed countries under muslim parentage, to buy this nonsense and next thing you know, they do a trip to syria or pakistan or afghanistan or worse to isis camps! for your own childrens' sake, you guys should stop this!

None of your concern. Worry about your own affairs, do not butt in to ours!

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Pakistan needs to take charge in Muslim world....

We are widely accepted in Muslim World....We can stabilize quite Muslim world if we want...

 

[LeGenD]

What makes me so sure? Well Arabs - I mean the 'real Arabs' of the peninsula who have the oil have gotten very arrogant. Their heads are floating in the skies and from that elevated position they look down at Pakistani's even if they need them to do their dirty work. The only people they see eye to eye or respect are Americans, British, French and other Europeans (in that order) and I can't see how they would place a Pakistani in command of a alliance force where he would be the numero uno. Advisor yes or consultant hidden away from the public limelight but with full glory of command nah!

I don't know if you guy's know about Battle of Khafji. This was fought in the First Gulf War when a Iraqi armoured battalion drove straight into the Saudi border town of Khafji trapping two US Marine recon platoons. This action caught the American's by surprise and everybody including Saudi's high tailed it out of that town. Then a Saudi and Qatari battle group was sent in to take back Khafji and save the American's. In the tough hand to hand fighting that followed the Saudi's ran away but the Qatari unit held ground and shouldered most of the battle leading to eventally the Iraqi's being thrown out.

Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji

What most people did not know was that most of the Qatari unit was made of contract Pakistani soldiers. However their heroism was 'stolen' when the Saudi General (some Prince) took all the credit and Pakstani contribution was buried in history books. This is typical example of Saudi's or other Arabs do.

I mean if KSA or rest of GCC had shred of real respect for Pakistan instead of 'buying out' piecemeal our skills I would ask @Zarvan and other cheerleaders for the ummah why did they NOT hire Pakistan Army to kick the Iraqi's out of Kuwait? Either they thought Pakistan was incapable or they much preferred to hand over $100 billion to America to get the job done.

Can you imagine if they had given that job to Pakistan? It would have given Pakistan a chance to make it's name in history and earn over $100 billion enough to buy all those toys PDF'ers dream of. Also no 'kaffir' army would have stepped their foot on the soil of KSA. Instead they hired the 'Jarheads' to do the job. So much for Muslim Ummah !

So in 2017 I hardly expect these people to privilage a Pakistan by placing him in a command level position that enjoys widespread publicity in the open that goes against the stereotype that has been built up in GCC of Pakistan as 'Miskeen'. It is for this reason I would would be most surprised if I am wrong.

Are you seriously entertaining the notion that Pakistan could take care of Iraqi military juggernaut in 1991? This is some serious overreaching on your part.

Qatari regiment might have fought bravely but it was not enough to take care of Iraqi mechanized divisions that invaded Khafji on its own. American firepower was there and invaluable. Not to forget that USAF had softened those Iraqi mechanized divisions earlier during the air campaign phase of the Gulf War. Imagine if those divisions were fresh and at full strength and Americans were not there. They would have eaten Saudi and Qatari regiments alive and much more.

Why do we have to suspect motives of Saudi Arabia in every matter? They are in the Middle East and would have contemplated all options after Kuwait was occupied. They figured out that GCC could not take care of the threat by itself and even if more Islamic states joined, the coalition would still not be good enough. So instead of taking chances, they called the best and the gamble paid off.

Iraq had demonstrated the capability and political will for a long-term conventional conflict and Saudi Arabia could not afford a war of such scale. Other friendly Islamic countries were far from military juggernauts themselves.

 

[Haris Mansoor]

When Gen Raheel retired , he said , he will work with Army welfare trust for the families of dead and injured soldiers during the war on terrorism. Seems like, he took decision very recently.

Yes after retirement, he is not retired yet, he is in service Chief of Army (IMA)

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Are you seriously entertaining the notion that Pakistan could take care of Iraqi military juggernaut in 1991? This is some serious overreaching on your part.

Qatari regiment might have fought bravely but it was not enough to take care of Iraqi mechanized divisions that invaded Khafji on its own. American firepower was there and invaluable. Not to forget that USAF had softened those Iraqi mechanized divisions earlier during the air campaign phase of the Gulf War. Imagine if those divisions were fresh and at full strength and Americans were not there. They would have eaten Saudi and Qatari regiments alive and much more.

Why do we have to suspect motives of Saudi Arabia in every matter? They are in the Middle East and would have contemplated all options after Kuwait was occupied. They figured out that GCC could not take care of the threat by itself and even if more Islamic states joined, the coalition would still not be good enough. So instead of taking chances, they called the best and the gamble paid off.

Iraq had demonstrated the capability and political will for a long-term conventional conflict and Saudi Arabia could not afford a war of such scale. Other friendly Islamic countries were far from military juggernauts themselves.

The Iraqi military in it's prime under saddam was the 4th largest in the world. They had about 4000 tanks around 900 aircraft total. Though they had large numbers the Americans had vastly superior technology.

 

[jha]

Not everyone is happy.

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[Indus Pakistan]

Are you seriously entertaining the notion that Pakistan could take care of Iraqi military juggernaut in 1991? This is some serious overreaching on your part.

Yes, indeed there was huge overreach on my part.

The demography I am addressing has other notions - not quite as well founded on 'ground realities' that you so ably demonstrated in your post. So as they say 'differant horses for diffeant courses' I was following a path that is preferred by this demographic - the favourite being Pak is the strongest military power in the muslim world and if unleashed our Al-Khalid Armoured Divisions would not stop till they reached Marocco and along the way taken a detour to squash that Zionist pest - Israel.

What I am really trying to wake our deluded folk is KSA is just another country that is out to look out for it's interests - the fact that the prophet (pbuh) was born there is entirely incidental to the reality as it exists today. KSA does not in any way confer anything special to Pakistan beyond it's interests and Pakistani's shoul;d not get all misty eyed about this country. They should look at it through the hard, cold prism of self interest. However you know they rarely do this when the name of KSA is brought up.

For example @Khafee brought up the supposed help KSA gave to Pakistan in 1999. Overlooking the fact that USA has given far more aid, military or otherwise to Pakistan then any other country yet we don't sing songs about USA or our legs don't go gooeey the moment 'America' is mentioned. Indeed on the contrary hostile thoughts pour out.

 

[Kundara]

Defence Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif on Friday confirmed the recent development that former army chief General (retd) Raheel Sharif was made the chief of 39-nation Islamic military coalition to combat terrorism.

Speaking during a talk show at Geo TV, Asif admitted that an agreement in this regard was finalised few days back; however, the defence minister said he didn’t have much information at the moment about the details of the said agreement.

Asif said that the decision was taken after taking the incumbent government into confidence and “it was finalised here first”.

The defence minister said that any such assignment or posting requires proper clearance from the government and General Headquarters (GHQ) both and confirmed that the due process was followed before finalising the agreement. He was, however, unaware of the exact details.

“As you are aware that this thing was in the pipeline for quite some time and the prime minister was also part of the deliberations,” Asif said.

He was of the opinion that formation of such an alliance is a good step, as the “Muslim Ummah is in a spot of bother right now and needs unity among its ranks”.

Pakistan had initially found itself in the crosshairs of Middle Eastern politics as Saudi Arabia named it as part of its newly formed military alliance of Muslim countries meant to combat terrorism, without first getting its consent.

However, after initial ambiguity, the government had confirmed its participation in the alliance, but had said that the scope of its participation would be defined after Riyadh shared the details of the coalition it was assembling.

Now Arabs can blame a Non Arab for any failure .

Remember UAE’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash told Pakistan to fall in line.I think this is an after effect of the UAE minister warning to Pakistan of ‘heavy price for ambiguous stand’ on Yemen" .

 

[Cool_Soldier]

That's complicated process.
But it is honour for PAK Army and Pakistan to become head of this Alliance.
We should try to bring in other friends too specially IRAN to make this alliance not Controversial.
G -Raheel Job is to develop military strategy against terrorism not political consensus.

 

[Khanate]

pre-teen immaturity showing in your just repeating what you're told. anyway it is no big deal. Enjoy the new year.

Projecting once again.

Though "Pre-teen immaturity" does explain your earlier post.

 

[Post Colonnial]

None of your concern. Worry about your own affairs, do not butt in to ours!

I wish that was the case - unfortunately when you guys do not parent your kids properly and let them get influenced by such radical crap we are all impacted. Again,do not mean it as insult but we are in a connected world and your screw ups affect everyone

Projecting once again.

Though "Pre-teen immaturity" does explain your earlier post.

you juts proved my point. Please grow up. adios. Ignoring any further nonsense from you.

 

[Cookie Monster]

there is no Islamists terrorist but hired criminals who only prey on weak.

Agreed.

I'm not fond of this term either. If someone was truly Islamist, they wouldn't harm anyone. If they harm people then they are not at all Islamist(Muslims).

 

[Khanate]

you juts proved my point. Please grow up. adios. Ignoring any further nonsense from you.

As expected, more immature behavior.

 

[HAIDER]

Now Arabs can blame a Non Arab for any failure .

Remember UAE’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Dr Anwar Mohammed Gargash told Pakistan to fall in line.I think this is an after effect of the UAE minister warning to Pakistan of ‘heavy price for ambiguous stand’ on Yemen" .

UAE and its wet dreams of threat ....treating Pakistan like slave state ...