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I wish it were that simple. There will be russian databases that will be cross matched - analysts will poke holes in that story if IAF were ever to do that. After all some PAK analysts tried to pass of the AMRAAM as a Taiwanese AMRAAM - only to be caught. So publish the serial #'s
Secondly IAF proudly flew the Su 30 republic day . It announced to the world that there are the exactly same Avenger 1 and 2. Its for PAF to disapprove - since they have made the claim.
What makes you think that IAF doesnt have wreckage of other missiles ? They may have very well found other missiles - but then the objective was to show the world that DGISPR was lying in the sense that no F16's were involved. It showed the AMRAAM and DGISPR changed his statement. Objective achieved - why should it show more ? These are professional air forces - your PAF officers will understand.
My second theory would be - its extremely difficult to recover wreckage also. They may recovered maybe another AMRAAM but doubt if they were able to get their hands on all of them. After all a big airliner like MALAYSIAN Boeing hasnt been discovered yet. Its not easy.
No i tried to blow up - did everything i could. No serial #'s visible. RIght from the first image that was shared. If you could then do share.
Credible or not credible is immaterial. What we do know is that - IAF has not changed its story even once ! It has maintained a consistent story right from Day 1. DGISPR - has changed the story very often , to the point that it is very suspicious. Infact logically the DGISPR story is extremely stinky.
Again - IAF maintained its story . It did a presser with a air battle picture wihich includes radar intercepts , comm intercepts. It clearly painted the picture. Whats stopping PAF from doing the same ? Please do so - Paint the air picture. And you know what..My bet is that It wont ! Coz one lie will lead to another !
Missiles HD video
We lost a MiG-21, but Pakistan lost an F-16 that we cannot prove: IAF CHIEF BS DHANOA
kindly tell me once again That indian story remained consistent from day 1? Indians have no proof F-16 was shot down
Thanks Sonic - i literally paused and went through frame by frame. Could not get the serial numbers other than '1221376' - in one frame..but lets see.
No such claim was ever made officially. Anyways - serial numbers are out , so the verification process will start. Spread to all the handles - in between please ask DGISPR to mention this in the presser on 27th. I want PAF to squeeze IAF. I want the truth to come out - we will see. If no loss of F16 has happened then PAF should double down.the missile in question is r-73 from right wing not the one that has a motor section stuck to the pylon
No - it achieved its objective. To prove PAF and DGISPR was lying about F16 usage. It achieved its objective - case closed. There is nothing else that need to be done.
It painted air battle picture - complete with how many aircrafts , the vectors and the response.
PAF other than issue statement through DGISPR has done nothing
I am waiting on some information about supposed Su 30 - which i honestly believe is well concoted lie.
Neutral expert as in PDF members , right ?
Here's an awesome chance for you to screw IAF and GOI - release the serial numbers , paint air battle picture and lay this theory to rest. Serial #'s will prove the F16 shot down as bogus and Air battle picture will force IAF on backfoot about Su 30. It actually flew the same Su 30 - prove that its not.
Comon Areesh - you know what i am talking about. It should not be difficult to get a clear shot of serial number. Dont give me the chalta hain attitude. Show the number in the exact same way that IAF did. This is the chance.
Its has been clear from day 1. We have radar intercepts, comm intercepts, visual sightings , EW signatures through which we are confident that an F16 went down
It doesnt work like that. You make a claim - you lay out the proof. In case of Su 30 - present the proof , the planes flew on republic day. For F16 - lets start with serial numbers. I am more than eager to get serial numbers - for i believe people who are truthful have nothing to be afraid. I believe in IAF and our checks / balances. Even in case of fraticide - it publicly declared 'we screwed up' - i was upset but then i accepted it. Its the right process.
IAF always had consistent story. Gafoora changed the story every time - need i say more.
I agree with the above summary. All the author is saying "its confusing and not enough"..
Hence lets start with serial numbers of missiles and we will go from there. You guys should be helping out the PAF by making the serial numbers public.
Do you want me to post IAF pilots twitter posts again and embarrass you again? They all used to say Mig-21 wreckage is actually PAF f-16 and R-73 with a seeker on the side of fuselage is the one that shot down f-16 because warhead is missing.No such claim was ever made officially. Anyways - serial numbers are out , so the verification process will start. Spread to all the handles - in between please ask DGISPR to mention this in the presser on 27th. I want PAF to squeeze IAF. I want the truth to come out - we will see. If no loss of F16 has happened then PAF should double down.
Bratva - go easy on the red. please read the full interview. Dhanaoa is extremely clear. Materially IAF does not have any proof of F16 shotdown .i.e. it does not have any debris. He goes on to say ( i am paraphrasing) ' Electronic signatures from our radars - EW platform-Ground network shows that its a F16 , Comm intercepts , visual sightings, parachutes , etc , etc indicates that F16 was down'. Same consistent story from Day 1 - no change at all.
IAF doesnt need to change its story since its not pandering to a domestic audience (and the fact that its truth) , incase of PAF it clearly is pandering to domestic audience.
PAF Pilot "...may..day...may...day ...I been shot down by the ugliest man that I have ever seen...
...may...day...may...day...he did not even use a missile....at the very sight of his ugly mug my F-16 spontaneously exploded into a thousand pieces...may day..."
IAF showed us a powerpoint slide as evidence, now that may fool Indians but the rest of the world with more evolved encephalon require real evidence. If the IAF intercepted F-16 comms - lets hear the audio recording of the PAF F-16 pilot's last transmission - it should go something like this....
Since the Mig-21 missiles were found near the crash site, clear evidence is seen on this very thread. It is obvious the F-16 exploded upon the very sight of ...what..his name ..the ugly guy with the handle bar mustache...
..something ...undone...or is it...none..done....
I would have said there is no rocket science. But this is literally rocket science.Riiiiight.
So i'm gonna pretend to understand everything you Gentlemen said, but in reality whats really going through my mind is...
P.S.: @MZ-PDF , could you somehow tag these images to Abhi-Nandos, as well.