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Queen Rania: Let's Drop The First 'I' In ISIS. There's Nothing Islamic About Them

ISIS gets its fund from sympathisers and its terrorists from these countries. I imagine it tough they will attack those countries. I hope no terrorist attack on Innocent people. Btw France had already started attacking ISIS before. Its just the intensity have increased. Its time Arabian countries deploy soldiers.
1) sympathizers are not only funding in terms of money but also by pushing and alienating Muslims on their land....That is another push towards recruiting them! You push them ISIS recruits them coz they have no where to go and a recent study has shown this to be almost 100% true....joblessness/ alienating is main recruiting factor!
2) France isnt helping when they bomb blindly killing more innocents = more recruits

We have failed to curtail the recruiting factors but have literally increased it exponentially!

Chaddi spotted.
he is a troll report and move on...dont feed the troll!

Except that each one of them says it is Islam.
So you believe them? Good to know you are a terrorist sympathizer (in case you dont know what it means it means you agree with them)! :tup:
 
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So you believe them? Good to know you are a terrorist sympathizer (in case you dont know what it means it means you agree with them)! :tup:

Can you point out the substantive difference between what is preached in Wahhabi Madrasahs and Mosques around the world and what ISIS does? For that matter, can you point out the difference between what the Taliban believes in and what the ISIS does. Don't focus on the generalized prescriptions - I am referring to their views on how to deal with those they see as opposing their ideology. Wahhabi teachings inspired a generation of Al Qaida idealogues. So how is Al Qaida so fundamentally different than ISIS? So if I preach hate and violence, and then suddenly see the ultimate manifestation of that teaching, I denounce it and say this is not what I taught? How does that work?
 
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Can you point out the substantive difference between what is preached in Wahhabi Madrasahs and Mosques around the world and what ISIS does? For that matter, can you point out the difference between what the Taliban believes in and what the ISIS does. Don't focus on the generalized prescriptions - I am referring to their views on how to deal with those they see as opposing their ideology. Wahhabi teachings inspired a generation of Al Qaida idealogues. So how is Al Qaida so fundamentally different than ISIS? So if I preach hate and violence, and then suddenly see the ultimate manifestation of that teaching, I denounce it and say this is not what I taught? How does that work?
when 99% reject them what does that tell you?
 
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when 99% reject them what does that tell you?

Okay, I don't want to fight a pitched battle with you on this one. Let us try to make it a productive discussion. So you are saying that 99% of Muslims reject the violent ideology of ISIS. Fair enough, I can run with that. But many more are influenced by the poison of Wahhabi indoctrination, right? What about them? Okay, let us set aside the Anjem Chaudhrys of the world. Let us focus on the clerics who have denounced ISIS. Surely, many of them are Wahhabi. I was reading how large number of Wahhabi clerics are denouncing ISIS. But then what do these guys teach their followers? We all know what came out of Wahhabi ideology - your country is suffering that right now. So how are these persons any different than the ISIS they denounce? What sort of cognitive dissonance tells a person that someone who merely takes their own violent hatred for humanity to its logical conclusion is wrong and should be denounced?
 
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many more are influenced by the poison of Wahhabi indoctrination, right? What about them?
according to studies they make up 0.0013% and we have actively voiced out AGAINST them and are doing what West isnt....Calling them HARAM and not Islam (with reasons and references) ....which those who have brains would hear out and hence learn!

Let us focus on the clerics who have denounced ISIS. Surely, many of them are Wahhabi.
I dont know unlike in india we dont go around asking what one is!

The word surely indicates you have a set mind and wont listen to reason even when I put forward statistics of 99% ....I didnt say 99% of Wahabi or Sunni or Salafi or Shia...I said 99% of MUSLIMS!

. But then what do these guys teach their followers?
As per OP which I believe you didnt read and my other thread regarding research showed MANY of them have little to do with religion and more to do with anger, isolation, joblessness, discriminated OR have seen their children/ family die in drone attacks (psychology) and a whole lot of other issues which have literally thrown them to either follow or join!

By doing any of the above to a Muslim you are helping ISIS to get free recruits without having to work for it!

So how are these persons any different than the ISIS they denounce?
Because not everyone denouncing is inviting...Some of the push is being done by merely isolating and discriminating the people to hatred!
I dont know why you think that there is only 1 person preaching...If he says ISIS is bad...next day he will say join ISIS....

We have more than 1.8 billion! There are less than 1% preaching for ISIS and more than 99% rejecting! Now you figure out how it differentiates what!

What sort of cognitive dissonance tells a person that someone who merely takes their own violent hatred for humanity to its logical conclusion is wrong and should be denounced?
Again those preaching hate ARE NOT THE SAME people as those denouncing.... from 1.8 billion you find all sorts of people!
 
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SASIS would be even more appropriate.

The US's mistake here was primarily that of kowtowing to Saudi demands, with the hysterically anti-Iran Republicans in the US, the Israelis and the Israeli lobby piling on even more pressure.

Given the degree of pressure on the US Administration, domestically and from foreign allies, it's remarkable that Obama walked back from his 'red line of chemical weapons use and didn't involve the US, directly, beyond the little we have seen so far.

Sir I do agree to some extent that Saudi's provided funding for pursuing their agenda, but It is the US that has provided the vaccum, the logisitical support, training, and everything needed for it to become a monstor, and US has done it deliberately, just as in the past with the talibans and al qaeda.
 
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according to studies they make up 0.0013% and we have actively voiced out AGAINST them and are doing what West isnt....Calling them HARAM and not Islam (with reasons and references) ....which those who have brains would hear out and hence learn!

You just made that number up. Wahhabism and Salafist ideology has been exported by Saudi Arabia to all corners of the world. Millions of people are swayed by them. Trying to "educate" people with conveniently concocted figures is nice as an exercise in deception, nothing else.

I dont know unlike in india we dont go around asking what one is!

The word surely indicates you have a set mind and wont listen to reason even when I put forward statistics of 99% ....I didnt say 99% of Wahabi or Sunni or Salafi or Shia...I said 99% of MUSLIMS!

What are the core tenets of Wahhabism and Salafism? Why did Osama bin Laden & Co. interpret it in the manner they did? Why have so many radical Islamic groups throughout the world done the same? How can you claim that 99% of Muslims don't support ISIS when offshoots of that ideology permeate radical organizations in the entire Islamic world?

As per OP which I believe you didnt read and my other thread regarding research showed MANY of them have little to do with religion and more to do with anger, isolation, joblessness, discriminated OR have seen their children/ family die in drone attacks (psychology) and a whole lot of other issues which have literally thrown them to either follow or join!

By doing any of the above to a Muslim you are helping ISIS to get free recruits without having to work for it!

While I agree that there are deeper reasons to these trends; these reasons are fed by factors that you are trying to obfuscate. Radical Islam has infiltrated deep into society, and you cannot ignore that aspect and blame the anger, isolation, poverty, discrimination, etc. These are symptoms, the disease is something else.

However, a military response is not the solution. Christianity did not emerge from the Dark ages through military means, but through reformation and Enlightenment. But then neither can the solution lie in not looking at the problem and wishing that it would go away. Scared children do that.

I dont know why you think that there is only 1 person preaching...If he says ISIS is bad...next day he will say join ISIS....

We have more than 1.8 billion! There are less than 1% preaching for ISIS and more than 99% rejecting! Now you figure out how it differentiates what!

My point is not that millions of clerics are preaching for ISIS. My point is that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is followed by millions (probably hundreds of millions) around the world. Saudi oil money has ensured that. And Wahhabi/Salafist ideology have provided the underpinning to most of the radical/terrorist movements in the Islamic world in the 20th-21st Century. So - a) why are we to assume that these millions of people are not extremely receptive of hateful ideology that calls for murder in general - yesterday it was Al Qaida, today ISIS, tomorrow someone else? b) why are we to assume that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is not an accurate understanding of the Islamic worldview, rather than the idle musings of people like Rania and yourself?

Again those preaching hate ARE NOT THE SAME people as those denouncing.... from 1.8 billion you find all sorts of people!

This is the most contentious part of this debate, IMO. While in your mind you may be clear that since bad apples can be anywhere, Islam will have its own, the question was never an absolute one. Of course, there are homicidal/genocidal people/groups - among Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, athiests, agnostics, etc. But pick up another set of 1.8 billion people in the world, and then tell me that is killing in the name of ideology IN THE MODERN WORLD as commonplace and accepted anywhere else except the Islamic world? Pick up any acceptable list of terrorist attacks and tell me what you see.
 
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You just made that number up

Towards the end of this :
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CIA report stated so...

Wahhabism and Salafist ideology

And you are still stuck....Now how do you debate with one who has a made up mind and keeps repeating the same jargon even when refuted?

What are the core tenets of Wahhabism and Salafism? Why did Osama bin Laden & Co. interpret it in the manner they did? Why have so many radical Islamic groups throughout the world done the same? How can you claim that 99% of Muslims don't support ISIS when offshoots of that ideology permeate radical organizations in the entire Islamic world?
Because the 99% have voiced out so often...Not our fault you are deaf!


these reasons are fed by factors that you are trying to obfuscate
Am I ? Or are you just ignorantly confused?

Radical Islam has infiltrated deep into society, and you cannot ignore that aspect and blame the anger, isolation, poverty, discrimination, etc. These are symptoms, the disease is something else.
And still stuck there?

Even if the world tells you otherwise? Even if Queen Rania is telling you otherwise.....Even if Obama tells you otherwise?

President Obama reminds everyone that ISIS "does not represent Islam"

But then neither can the solution lie in not looking at the problem and wishing that it would go away. Scared children do that
The problem is people like you filled with hatred and trying to prove your hatred is real!

My point is not that millions of clerics are preaching for ISIS. My point is that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is followed by millions (probably hundreds of millions) around the world.
Yet it isnt the millions who are blowing themselves up! Lets face it if millions were you wouldnt be alive...

Saudi oil money has ensured that
Money cant make a terrorist...weapons and training can! And why havent you blasted or channeled your hatred towards the weapons industry? Why the silent hypocrisy?

And Wahhabi/Salafist ideology have provided the underpinning to most of the radical/terrorist movements in the Islamic world in the 20th-21st Century. So - a) why are we to assume that these millions of people are not extremely receptive of hateful ideology that calls for murder in general - yesterday it was Al Qaida, today ISIS, tomorrow someone else?
Why simple....

1) there are too many millions of Muslims who dont associate with this hatred like indians do!
if they did you wouldnt be alive coz 1.8 billion would have blown half the earth off!

2) Millions have voiced out from
a) Clerics/ imam (head of a mosque)
b) organizations (groups of people)
c) grand moufti (representative of the country)
d) student organizations (representative of youth)
e) scholars (representative of the literate)

b) why are we to assume that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is not an accurate understanding of the Islamic worldview, rather than the idle musings of people like Rania and yourself?
a) Is she a Wahabi or not?
b) Have EVERY SAUDI student in UK, USA, Austalia blown himself off? That is say some thousands coz all are Wahabi!

But pick up another set of 1.8 billion people in the world, and then tell me that is killing in the name of ideology IN THE MODERN WORLD as commonplace and accepted anywhere else except the Islamic world?
a) only less than 1 % of the 1.8 billion done even make up majority so how are you justifying your fear?
b) Bhuddist monks, KKKChristians, IRA Christianity , RSS Hinduism, Israel Zionist terrorism

List of Historical and Modern Terrorist Groups by Type
Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cumann na mBan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jewish religious terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Buddhism and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Liberation Front of Tripura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian Identity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian Patriot movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Babbar Khalsa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aum Shinrikyo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Socialist Council of Nagaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
New People's Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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You just made that number up. Wahhabism and Salafist ideology has been exported by Saudi Arabia to all corners of the world. Millions of people are swayed by them. Trying to "educate" people with conveniently concocted figures is nice as an exercise in deception, nothing else.



What are the core tenets of Wahhabism and Salafism? Why did Osama bin Laden & Co. interpret it in the manner they did? Why have so many radical Islamic groups throughout the world done the same? How can you claim that 99% of Muslims don't support ISIS when offshoots of that ideology permeate radical organizations in the entire Islamic world?



While I agree that there are deeper reasons to these trends; these reasons are fed by factors that you are trying to obfuscate. Radical Islam has infiltrated deep into society, and you cannot ignore that aspect and blame the anger, isolation, poverty, discrimination, etc. These are symptoms, the disease is something else.

However, a military response is not the solution. Christianity did not emerge from the Dark ages through military means, but through reformation and Enlightenment. But then neither can the solution lie in not looking at the problem and wishing that it would go away. Scared children do that.



My point is not that millions of clerics are preaching for ISIS. My point is that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is followed by millions (probably hundreds of millions) around the world. Saudi oil money has ensured that. And Wahhabi/Salafist ideology have provided the underpinning to most of the radical/terrorist movements in the Islamic world in the 20th-21st Century. So - a) why are we to assume that these millions of people are not extremely receptive of hateful ideology that calls for murder in general - yesterday it was Al Qaida, today ISIS, tomorrow someone else? b) why are we to assume that Wahhabi/Salafist ideology is not an accurate understanding of the Islamic worldview, rather than the idle musings of people like Rania and yourself?



This is the most contentious part of this debate, IMO. While in your mind you may be clear that since bad apples can be anywhere, Islam will have its own, the question was never an absolute one. Of course, there are homicidal/genocidal people/groups - among Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, athiests, agnostics, etc. But pick up another set of 1.8 billion people in the world, and then tell me that is killing in the name of ideology IN THE MODERN WORLD as commonplace and accepted anywhere else except the Islamic world? Pick up any acceptable list of terrorist attacks and tell me what you see.
Hi ,
As long as wahhabis or who ever they maybe is not voilent or not preaches terrorism , its all good !
Whatever ,it maybe or even been preached by our MR moodi ,our unhounrable PM of India , & it pushes peoples to do terrorism against fellow citizens as what happened in the state of GUJRAAT in India is been called terrorism ?

Towards the end of this :
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12246889_10153257355283977_3754699821469907680_n.jpg


CIA report stated so...



And you are still stuck....Now how do you debate with one who has a made up mind and keeps repeating the same jargon even when refuted?


Because the 99% have voiced out so often...Not our fault you are deaf!



Am I ? Or are you just ignorantly confused?


And still stuck there?

Even if the world tells you otherwise? Even if Queen Rania is telling you otherwise.....Even if Obama tells you otherwise?

President Obama reminds everyone that ISIS "does not represent Islam"


The problem is people like you filled with hatred and trying to prove your hatred is real!


Yet it isnt the millions who are blowing themselves up! Lets face it if millions were you wouldnt be alive...


Money cant make a terrorist...weapons and training can! And why havent you blasted or channeled your hatred towards the weapons industry? Why the silent hypocrisy?


Why simple....

1) there are too many millions of Muslims who dont associate with this hatred like indians do!
if they did you wouldnt be alive coz 1.8 billion would have blown half the earth off!

2) Millions have voiced out from
a) Clerics/ imam (head of a mosque)
b) organizations (groups of people)
c) grand moufti (representative of the country)
d) student organizations (representative of youth)
e) scholars (representative of the literate)


a) Is she a Wahabi or not?
b) Have EVERY SAUDI student in UK, USA, Austalia blown himself off? That is say some thousands coz all are Wahabi!


a) only less than 1 % of the 1.8 billion done even make up majority so how are you justifying your fear?
b) Bhuddist monks, KKKChristians, IRA Christianity , RSS Hinduism, Israel Zionist terrorism

List of Historical and Modern Terrorist Groups by Type
Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cumann na mBan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lord's Resistance Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jewish religious terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Buddhism and violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Liberation Front of Tripura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian Identity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Christian Patriot movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Babbar Khalsa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Aum Shinrikyo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
National Socialist Council of Nagaland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
New People's Army - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now tell gentlmen to show us , how many came out in the streets in west , when any terrorist attack happened in any Muslim country ?
 
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Towards the end of this :
CIA report stated so...

Then you are not alone in concocting numbers. Which CIA report? What does it say?

Because the 99% have voiced out so often...Not our fault you are deaf!

The larger world's experience in this matter is different. They have not seen thousands of Muslims protest against ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaida. They have seen thousands of Muslims come out on the streets demanding that cartoonists be killed. A bunch of social media fogeys putting up "Not in my name" nonsense means little.

And still stuck there?

Even if the world tells you otherwise? Even if Queen Rania is telling you otherwise.....Even if Obama tells you otherwise?

President Obama reminds everyone that ISIS "does not represent Islam"

Again, do you quote Obama on everything? Is Obama a Muslim? Has he studied Islam? Is he a Wahhabi/Salafist scholar?

Money cant make a terrorist...weapons and training can! And why havent you blasted or channeled your hatred towards the weapons industry? Why the silent hypocrisy?

Money can finance mosques and madrasahs, pay the salaries of radical clerics, and also pay for the boarding and lodging of children who are then indoctrinated in hate. Please don't play these games. IEDs are made with fertilizers. Terrorists in 9/11 used planes as weapons.

there are too many millions of Muslims who dont associate with this hatred like indians do!
if they did you wouldnt be alive coz 1.8 billion would have blown half the earth off!

You picked up this brilliant epiphany from where, exactly? Let me guess, TV?!

Is she a Wahabi or not?
b) Have EVERY SAUDI student in UK, USA, Austalia blown himself off? That is say some thousands coz all are Wahabi!

Irrelevant. Therefore the claim that Osama understood his religion, Baghdadi understands his religion, just as Rania understands her own.

Bhuddist monks, KKKChristians, IRA Christianity , RSS Hinduism, Israel Zionist terrorism

This is standard obfuscation 101. Throw a few names, give a few links, and we are done. We are neither talking about a historical context, nor contentious issue. Who are RSS and Zionist terrorists, by the way? Which international body/nation has designated them as such?

Let me give you an alternate perspective.

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)

Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years. (source)

More civilians were killed by Muslim hijackers in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Islamic extremists massacred more Iraqis on a single day in June, 2014 than the number of American criminals executed in the last 40 years. (source, source)

Muslim fundamentalists kill more people everyday than were killed during the entire Salem Witch Trials. (source)

Sunni supremacists slaughtered more Yazidi minorities on August 14, 2014 than the number of black Americans lynched by White supremacists in the previous 100 years. (source, source)

There have been 27,290 deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9/11. For a list of attacks, see:

Islamic Terror Attacks for First Part of 2015

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2014

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2013

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2012

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2011

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2010

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2009

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2008

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2007

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2006

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2005

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2004

Islamic Attacks from September 11th, 2001 through 2003

Now kindly provide the list of terrorist attacks by Buddhist monks, KKK, IRA, RSS, Zionists, et al.

Hi ,
As long as wahhabis or who ever they maybe is not voilent or not preaches terrorism , its all good !
Whatever ,it maybe or even been preached by our MR moodi ,our unhounrable PM of India , & it pushes peoples to do terrorism against fellow citizens as what happened in the state of GUJRAAT in India is been called terrorism ?


Now tell gentlmen to show us , how many came out in the streets in west , when any terrorist attack happened in any Muslim country ?

Go back to bed.
 
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Then you are not alone in concocting numbers. Which CIA report? What does it say?



The larger world's experience in this matter is different. They have not seen thousands of Muslims protest against ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaida. They have seen thousands of Muslims come out on the streets demanding that cartoonists be killed. A bunch of social media fogeys putting up "Not in my name" nonsense means little.



Again, do you quote Obama on everything? Is Obama a Muslim? Has he studied Islam? Is he a Wahhabi/Salafist scholar?



Money can finance mosques and madrasahs, pay the salaries of radical clerics, and also pay for the boarding and lodging of children who are then indoctrinated in hate. Please don't play these games. IEDs are made with fertilizers. Terrorists in 9/11 used planes as weapons.



You picked up this brilliant epiphany from where, exactly? Let me guess, TV?!



Irrelevant. Therefore the claim that Osama understood his religion, Baghdadi understands his religion, just as Rania understands her own.



This is standard obfuscation 101. Throw a few names, give a few links, and we are done. We are neither talking about a historical context, nor contentious issue. Who are RSS and Zionist terrorists, by the way? Which international body/nation has designated them as such?

Let me give you an alternate perspective.

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)

Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years. (source)

More civilians were killed by Muslim hijackers in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Islamic extremists massacred more Iraqis on a single day in June, 2014 than the number of American criminals executed in the last 40 years. (source, source)

Muslim fundamentalists kill more people everyday than were killed during the entire Salem Witch Trials. (source)

Sunni supremacists slaughtered more Yazidi minorities on August 14, 2014 than the number of black Americans lynched by White supremacists in the previous 100 years. (source, source)

There have been 27,290 deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9/11. For a list of attacks, see:

Islamic Terror Attacks for First Part of 2015

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2014

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2013

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2012

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2011

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2010

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2009

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2008

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2007

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2006

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2005

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2004

Islamic Attacks from September 11th, 2001 through 2003

Now kindly provide the list of terrorist attacks by Buddhist monks, KKK, IRA, RSS, Zionists, et al.



Go back to bed.


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Just there to give you a cold unsweetened cup a coffee in gangnam style ?
& can expose the hell over your heads ?lolzzz
 
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Which CIA report? What does it say?
google is your friend this isnt spoon feeding class! I have done this much if you can find enough BS to create the amount of ignorance and hate you live in, I am sure you can google this!

. They have not seen thousands of Muslims protest against ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaida.
Then either you are lying or just dumb as I just posted 1 picture to I have you a QUICK view of 4mths!

nonsense means little.
If that is how you see it...then there is little one can do to please you coz nothing will satisfy you!

because everything that you dont agree with is nonsense So following that logic all you say is nonsense! :tup:

Again, do you quote Obama on everything? Is Obama a Muslim? Has he studied Islam? Is he a Wahhabi/Salafist scholar?
No but he is a non Mulsim a state leader of a state which actually told you the BS stuck in your head!

Money can finance mosques and madrasahs, pay the salaries of radical clerics, and also pay for the boarding and lodging of children who are then indoctrinated in hate. Please don't play these games. IEDs are made with fertilizers. Terrorists in 9/11 used planes as weapons.
Is that what it looks like to you?

Have you seen any of the photos on media? Where ISIS are posing infront of American weapons....Unless America was selling them and not giving the m away freely to rebels (which is again in news help yourself)

You picked up this brilliant epiphany from where, exactly? Let me guess, TV?!
Its an example and its all over the net now...Unless of course you live in a village and only creep out to blast hatred you would have seen it by now...Unless of course you have no friends from abroad....that can explain it too!

Irrelevant.
How is it irrelevant? Students are not Wahabi? Or only those who blow themselves are Wahabi?

Why what you say is relevant but facts that are against your logic are irrelevant?

Do thousands of Saudi student not go to uni abroad? Are they not Wahabi? (News tells us there is only 1 type of Islam in whole of Saudi which you were blatantly addressing

Osama understood his religion, Baghdadi understands his religion, just as Rania understands her own.
How did you conclude this? You believe in Osama and Baghdadi but fail to understand logic/ research and reasoning? WOW!

This is standard obfuscation 101. Throw a few names, give a few links, and we are done. We are neither talking about a historical context, nor contentious issue. Who are RSS and Zionist terrorists, by the way? Which international body/nation has designated them as such?
1) MOST of those groups are still operational
2) I dont give 2 hoots about who they are....And international body? Try state funded! And you can read about it!

Let me give you an alternate perspective.
Wow reject everything research and media reports which counters you but accept everything to continue hating! tup: yup typical indian!

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)
Wikipedia is not a report! I would use it for definition but not as a report!

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)

Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years. (source)

More civilians were killed by Muslim hijackers in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Islamic extremists massacred more Iraqis on a single day in June, 2014 than the number of American criminals executed in the last 40 years. (source, source)

Muslim fundamentalists kill more people everyday than were killed during the entire Salem Witch Trials. (source)

Sunni supremacists slaughtered more Yazidi minorities on August 14, 2014 than the number of black Americans lynched by White supremacists in the previous 100 years. (source, source)
I have already told you nothing Islamic about it!

the religion of peace .com is a blog anyone can make one!

But for you anything non Islamic holds higher value than research, media reports and even CIA :rofl: GO TROLL GO!

Now kindly provide the list of terrorist attacks by Buddhist monks, KKK, IRA, RSS, Zionists, et al.
why should I provide everything...You copied pasted anti Islamic
 
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Then you are not alone in concocting numbers. Which CIA report? What does it say?



The larger world's experience in this matter is different. They have not seen thousands of Muslims protest against ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaida. They have seen thousands of Muslims come out on the streets demanding that cartoonists be killed. A bunch of social media fogeys putting up "Not in my name" nonsense means little.



Again, do you quote Obama on everything? Is Obama a Muslim? Has he studied Islam? Is he a Wahhabi/Salafist scholar?



Money can finance mosques and madrasahs, pay the salaries of radical clerics, and also pay for the boarding and lodging of children who are then indoctrinated in hate. Please don't play these games. IEDs are made with fertilizers. Terrorists in 9/11 used planes as weapons.



You picked up this brilliant epiphany from where, exactly? Let me guess, TV?!



Irrelevant. Therefore the claim that Osama understood his religion, Baghdadi understands his religion, just as Rania understands her own.



This is standard obfuscation 101. Throw a few names, give a few links, and we are done. We are neither talking about a historical context, nor contentious issue. Who are RSS and Zionist terrorists, by the way? Which international body/nation has designated them as such?

Let me give you an alternate perspective.

More people are killed by Islamists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. (source)

Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years. (source)

More civilians were killed by Muslim hijackers in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland. (source)

Islamic extremists massacred more Iraqis on a single day in June, 2014 than the number of American criminals executed in the last 40 years. (source, source)

Muslim fundamentalists kill more people everyday than were killed during the entire Salem Witch Trials. (source)

Sunni supremacists slaughtered more Yazidi minorities on August 14, 2014 than the number of black Americans lynched by White supremacists in the previous 100 years. (source, source)

There have been 27,290 deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9/11. For a list of attacks, see:

Islamic Terror Attacks for First Part of 2015

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2014

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2013

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2012

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2011

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2010

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2009

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2008

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2007

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2006

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2005

Islamic Terror Attacks for 2004

Islamic Attacks from September 11th, 2001 through 2003

Now kindly provide the list of terrorist attacks by Buddhist monks, KKK, IRA, RSS, Zionists, et al.



Go back to bed.


Get a cup of coffee & back to school !lolzz



INTERNATIONAL
Myanmar: Buddhist group attacks Muslims
NGO says dozens may have been killed, while government denies attacks on religious minority in remote part of country
January 17, 2014 8:45AM ET



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A Muslim barber gives a customer a haircut at a roadside barber shop as a street vendor sells vegetables in The' Chaung village in Rakhine state, Myanmar on Jan. 17, 2014. The’ Chaung houses camps for displaced Muslims following sectarian violence between Buddhists and Muslims.
Gemunu Amarasinghe/AP
More than a dozen people may have been killed after a Buddhist group rampaged through a town in an isolated corner of Myanmar, hacking Muslim women and children with knives, a rights group reported Friday.

A government official said the situation was tense but denied any deaths.

Myanmar, a predominantly Buddhist nation of 60 million people, has been grappling with sectarian violence for nearly two years. More than 240 people have been killed and another 250,000, mostly Muslims, forced to flee their homes.

Chris Lewa of the Arakan Project, an advocacy group that documents abuses against members of the Rohingya Muslim minority, told The Associated Press that details about the violence that occurred early Tuesday morning in northern Rakhine state were still emerging, with many conflicting reports.

It is one of the most isolated regions in the country, both politically and geographically, and access to foreigners is denied or severely restricted. The death toll could range anywhere between 10 and 60, said Lewa, whose sources range from a village administrator to witnesses.

Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), which runs a nearby clinic, said it was concerned that residents who fled the area may need medical care.

"MSF confirms that on Wednesday it saw two wounded people suffering from injuries inflicted as a result of violence — one from a gunshot wound and the other exhibiting injuries consistent with a beating," Peter-Paul de Groote, head of MSF's Myanmar mission, told Reuters.

Religious minority
Tensions have been building in the region since last month, when monks from a Buddhist extremist movement known as 969toured the area and gave sermons by loudspeaker advocating the expulsion of all Rohingya, who make up 90 percent of the population in northern Rakhine. It's the only place where the religious minority is in the majority.

A volunteer English teacher who spoke on condition of anonymity because he feared reprisals said an initial flare-up followed the discovery of three bodies in a ditch near Du Char Yar Tan village.

Villagers alerted the friends and neighbors of a group of eight Rohingya who went missing after being detained by authorities days earlier, and a group returned to the bodies with cell phones to take pictures, the teacher said.

When police went to the village to confiscate the phones and check family lists, a crowd turned on the officers, beating and chasing them off, the English teacher said. The police returned at 2 a.m., saying one of their men had gone missing, he said, which triggered a security crackdown.

Soldiers and police surrounded the village, breaking down doors and looting livestock and other valuables. Almost all the men fled, leaving the women, children and elderly behind, he said.

Lewa said her sources reported that Rohingya women and children had been hacked to death, but the numbers varied widely. Some put the death toll as low as five or 10, but one source who works for the administration in Maungdaw town said it is widely believed 40 died, mostly women and children.

That some of the victims appeared to have been stabbed with knives, not shot or beaten, "would clearly indicate the massacre was committed by (Buddhist) Rakhine villagers, rather than the police or army," the Arakan Project wrote in a briefing Thursday.

The English teacher, who spoke by telephone, said 17 women and five children were killed.

Rakhine state spokesman Win Myaing said police had surrounded the village because they were looking for the policeman who went missing, but that he was not aware that anyone had been killed.

Khin Maung Than, a Muslim who lives in a neighboring village, said he visited Du Char Yar Tan and had seen no evidence of violence or deaths there.

Tensions have been reported for days, but getting information is difficult. Northern Rakhine, which is home to 80 percent of the country's 1 million Rohingya, runs along the Bay of Bengal and is cut off from the rest of the country by a mountain range.

Some of the people there descend from families that have been there generations. Others arrived more recently from neighboring Bangladesh. All have been denied citizenship, rendering them stateless.

For decades, they have been unable to travel freely, practice their religion, or work as teachers or doctors. They need special approval to marry and are the only people in the country barred from having more than two children.

Wire services
 
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The whole world will call the group whatever it pleases. ISIS/ISIL/Daesh....they have caught and stuck.

Removing an I seems quite artificial and doomed to fail.
 
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