Queen Rania: Let's Drop The First 'I' In ISIS. There's Nothing Islamic About Them

[Jacob Martin]

Their word whatever it is has nothing to do with ISLAM! Since they arent learrned in it!

We have idiots all over the world, people also followed Hitler, Stalin, Bushes to wars....


Now it is the job of the media to show that Chaudary isnt a scholar as they have been labeling him on BBC....he has nothing to give him that label!


And here we have the terrorist sympathizer!


Do you evne know the meaning? I guess terrorist sympathizer doesnt


Wonderful job terrorist sympathizer


You mean non existent credentials....


None exists many "SCHOLARS" already have ....Repeatedly but you are not only deaf and dumb but also blind!

ranting like the troll @waz @Slav Defence @Icarus


just like there was no will in France until they got attacked! Likewise these Arab nations are also human...not until they get a flame of hot lava thrown on them they wont feel the burn!

Your attempts at obfuscation fool no one. First it was the Taliban, then it was Al Qaida. Now we have Daesh. Each time we hear the same rant "This is not Islam...bla bla bla". Except that each one of them says it is Islam. So why should we believe your word over theirs? The Taliban leaders are educated in Madrasahs - how can you tell me with a straight face that they know any less about Islam than you do? Are you now also going to claim that you are better educated in Islam than the clerics of the Wahhabi Mosques and the teachers in their Madrasahs? They teach the same thing, but when they witness the physical manifestation of their teachings they seem to blanch at it. What nonsense.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

ranting like the troll @waz @Slav Defence @Icarus


just like there was no will in France until they got attacked! Likewise these Arab nations are also human...not until they get a flame of hot lava thrown on them they wont feel the burn!

ISIS gets its fund from sympathisers and its terrorists from these countries. I imagine it tough they will attack those countries. I hope no terrorist attack on Innocent people. Btw France had already started attacking ISIS before. Its just the intensity have increased. Its time Arabian countries deploy soldiers.

 

[xyxmt]

With all due respect to Lady Rania, CIA give it a name for a reason.

 

[ito]

Droping I from ISIS will not make any difference. ISIS will use Islam to continue killing people and terror the world. The need of the hour is not to pondering over acronyms, but to eliminate ISIS from the face of the earth.

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

I always question the sincerety of the US in finishing ISIS.
Secondly,I always have a hard time imagining that Israel has nothing to do with this mess.

 

[Zarvan]

Very true.

ISIL is strong and basically un-killable as long as they have support from the local populations on the ground. You can keep killing their leaders and soldiers but they will never run out. The news is full of stories like "terrorist leader killed in strike"... but they are just replaced by someone else in no time.

The real fight is over ideology. When no one believes in the extremist ideology, these groups will eventually die off since they will have no way to replenish their numbers.

Yes they would keep getting this support until USA and NATO leaves Muslim lands and also Palestine state is created with Jerusalem and its capital and other issues like Kashmir and Chechnya and others are resolved. Finally Muslim governments need to wake up and implement Islamic laws only than you will get moral support from Muslim masses and Islamic State and Al Qaeda will loose their support base.

 

[batmannow]

Yes they would keep getting this support until USA and NATO leaves Muslim lands and also Palestine state is created with Jerusalem and its capital and other issues like Kashmir and Chechnya and others are resolved. Finally Muslim governments need to wake up and implement Islamic laws only than you will get moral support from Muslim masses and Islamic State and Al Qaeda will loose their support base.

Most of the none arab Islamic countries hasn't have much problem as most of their population support democracy ,be it Pakistan Bangladesh ,indonesia ,Malaysia ,Turkey , Iran ?
Its the Arabian monarchies who are ruling their nations without any right , even with most of Islamic laws in place like KSA , UAE from where these peoples are running a Sunnis extreme prapoganda just because their rulers are afraid of Iran ?
Yes Muslim problems like Palestine , Kashmir , sirya should be resolved as soon as possible but also that shia fear & lossing the power should be dealt with ?
A united Muslim army should be created to fight the terrorist groups like USIS & must be supported by all players ?

 

[Stag112]

Pakistanis never said drop mohammad from jaish e mohammad!!!

 

[I.R.A]

Pakistanis never said drop mohammad from jaish e mohammad!!!

Anything that terrorizes Indian racist terrorist chaddeez is fine by me, and I have formed this opinion recently after reading comments of chaddiz on various threads post Paris attack. It seems like they were waiting for this opportunity to be presented to them to vent out deep hatred they have been fed in chaddi gatherings.

 

[Stag112]

Anything that terrorizes Indian racist terrorist chaddeez is fine by me, and I have formed this opinion recently after reading comments of chaddiz on various threads post Paris attack. It seems like they were waiting for this opportunity to be presented to them to vent out deep hatred they have been fed in chaddi gatherings.

This is precisely what I am saying. As long as islam is used as a terrorism tool you have no problem. Your problem is limited to the bad rep that you might get in lucrative countries.

Since India is not a lucrative country for you, or Afghanistan, hence you dont even care about the bad rep due to islamist terror, heck you guys support it.

Your outrage is selective and self serving and we can see it clear as daylight.

 

[I.R.A]

This is precisely what I am saying. As long as islam is used as a terrorism tool you have no problem. Your problem is limited to the bad rep that you might get in lucrative countries.

I am a follower of Islam and I give a damn what world thinks about Islam, none of them have any clue what they are dealing with. There is not a single thread where chaddeez have not bad mouthed Islam and Muslims.

And honestly speaking I am sick and tired of giving justifications and explanations why some Baghdadi has gone nuts, the world has been selective to my grievances so in response I am selective in showing my expressions now.

Since India is not a lucrative country for you, or Afghanistan, hence you dont even care about the bad rep due to islamist terror, heck you guys support it.

Islamist??? I have never accepted this term, there is no such term as Islamist, either you are Muslim or you are non Muslim, there is no moderate, extremist versions of it. It is either you are just or you are unjust. And as I said I give a damn about rep Islam and individual actions of Muslims are two separate identifiable things (for me at least).

The day India and Afghanistan play an front line role in fighting terrorists and getting their own civilians killed in thousands in this process, then let me know I won't be selective but for the time being I am not impressed by constant East or West whining, little cry babies we have as our neighbors.

Your outrage is selective and self serving and we can see it clear as daylight.

Should I be concerned?

 

[Jacob Martin]

This is precisely what I am saying. As long as islam is used as a terrorism tool you have no problem. Your problem is limited to the bad rep that you might get in lucrative countries.

Since India is not a lucrative country for you, or Afghanistan, hence you dont even care about the bad rep due to islamist terror, heck you guys support it.

Your outrage is selective and self serving and we can see it clear as daylight.

But you must listen to the other side as well. Kashmir, Mumbai, Afghanistan and Palestine/Israel are different than other places. I think that our Pakistani friends are trying to tell us that it is written in holy texts, as rightly explained by the Mullahs (sorry, clerics), suicide bombing, IED-ing and AK-47-ing are sins. However, any just war must be fought, by all means possible. I don't know why Mumbai also had to be a (just)war-zone. Be as it may it cannot be helped. The innocent freedom-fighters of these places must be supported at all costs. Okay, so it does look a bit like murderous hypocrisy and double-standards, but everything is fair in war and war.

 

[Manidabest]

Yes she is right....

 

[Jacob Martin]

Since India is not a lucrative country for you, or Afghanistan, hence you dont even care about the bad rep due to islamist terror, heck you guys support it.

Are you implying that Muslims are using the conflict pretext to mooch the European welfare state? Impossible. They bring invaluable diversity and a refreshingly different outlook to Europe. All this phony liberalism etc. in Europe is getting on everyone's nerves. It is time they got some good old multi-culturism.

I am a follower of Islam and I give a damn what world thinks about Islam, none of them have any clue what they are dealing with.

That's the way to go! Don't give a damn!

And honestly speaking I am sick and tired of giving justifications and explanations why some Baghdadi has gone nuts,

But why do you have to give any justifications? i thought you don't give a damn?!

the world has been selective to my grievances so in response I am selective in showing my expressions now.

True. The Ummah's grievances have gone unheard in the world. You are absolutely justified in having a selective approach. Would you like to share any particular grievance of yours, if you don't mind please?

Islamist??? I have never accepted this term, there is no such term as Islamist, either you are Muslim or you are non Muslim, there is no moderate, extremist versions of it.

Absolutely! If only more people could see the world in such binary "either with us or against us" terms. Too much respect for contrarian perspectives going around, for my liking.

And as I said I give a damn about rep Islam and individual actions of Muslims are two separate identifiable things (for me at least).

Exactly. Just a few thousand people blowing others up proves nothing. There have only been 27,290 terrorist attacks since 9/11, and the perpetrators have been from all religions, including scientologists, Mormons and Quakers. The fidayeen are just liars who claim they are influenced by religious ideology - one last deception before they die.

The day India and Afghanistan play an front line role in fighting terrorists and getting their own civilians killed in thousands in this process, then let me know I won't be selective but for the time being I am not impressed by constant East or West whining, little cry babies we have as our neighbors.

Yes, Pakistan has been the victim of terror, as the whole world has been duly informed. TTP was created by CIA and is funded and trained by Indian consulates in Afghan villages. BLA was created by Doval, etc, etc. The brave Army/ISI combine is cleaning up the bad work of all rogue agencies like CIA/Mossad/RAW/Doval/Modi. Everyone knows that, where is the doubt?

Should I be concerned?

No not at all. as far as I know @Stag112 is harmless, which in Pakistani means "beyond pathetic".

 

[I.R.A]

Are you implying that Muslims are using the conflict pretext to mooch the European welfare state? Impossible. They bring invaluable diversity and a refreshingly different outlook to Europe. All this phony liberalism etc. in Europe is getting on everyone's nerves. It is time they got some good old multi-culturism.



That's the way to go! Don't give a damn!



But why do you have to give any justifications? i thought you don't give a damn?!



True. The Ummah's grievances have gone unheard in the world. You are absolutely justified in having a selective approach. Would you like to share any particular grievance of yours, if you don't mind please?



Absolutely! If only more people could see the world in such binary "either with us or against us" terms. Too much respect for contrarian perspectives going around, for my liking.



Exactly. Just a few thousand people blowing others up proves nothing. There have only been 27,290 terrorist attacks since 9/11, and the perpetrators have been from all religions, including scientologists, Mormons and Quakers. The fidayeen are just liars who claim they are influenced by religious ideology - one last deception before they die.



Yes, Pakistan has been the victim of terror, as the whole world has been duly informed. TTP was created by CIA and is funded and trained by Indian consulates in Afghan villages. BLA was created by Doval, etc, etc. The brave Army/ISI combine is cleaning up the bad work of all rogue agencies like CIA/Mossad/RAW/Doval/Modi. Everyone knows that, where is the doubt?



No not at all. as far as I know @Stag112 is harmless, which in Pakistani means "beyond pathetic".

Chaddi spotted.