QAU's Center for Gender Studies Justifies BLA Terrorism

[S.Y.A]

This is completely out of context. I dont feel compulsion to reply to that.




Not true at all. Tribal chiefs are figure of respect for the locals, nohting wrong with it, they have no authority. You are just diverting the topic, looking for scapegoat for failure of the state of Pakistan. Yeah sure its the bloody tribal chiefs responsible for the all the mess. How dare i questioned the Pakistani government or state.

also health and education are provincial matters now. it is the same sardars who are sitting in provincial parliament, maybe they should do something about it, no? maybe they can set up schools, surely they can do that? maybe they can setup even small clinics for far flung areas, surely it isnt that difficult? all it would take is a few billion rupees, not dollars.

 

[Dalit]

There is only one proper solution for this mess like most problems in Pakistan. Rebuild the economy and rebuild the nation. Spend capital on human development. The anti-state sentiment will disappear in no time.

In the meantime tackle anti-state actors who resort to violence with an iron fist.

 

[S.Y.A]

also, what have the locals done to address these issues? IK set up shaukat khanum, karachi has indus hospital and edhi. then there is tcf. and then there are businesses set up by local people, who fund all of these things, why dont the locals take the initiative like locals of other areas did?

 

[Cuirassier]

Most of these terrorists are in southern areas of Balochistan which doesn't have tribal chiefs. And that area also doesn't have any gas. Only sui and pirkoh in dera bugti have gas

Insurgency is restricted to districts bordering Iran and those adjoining them. Clearly proxy elements embedded.

 

[S.Y.A]

If he carries arms, it doesnt mean you ll go with your full might after him.

yes it does. he committed a crime, and he will pay for it.

 

[Dalit]

Most of these terrorists are in southern areas of Balochistan which doesn't have tribal chiefs. And that area also doesn't have any gas. Only sui and pirkoh in dera bugti have gas

The state needs to sit and talk with these people. Listen to their legitimate demands. It is a pity that Balochistan like other provinces in Pakistan remains impoverished. Of course the blame game is in reality a two way street. Whilst all previous governments have neglected human development all across Pakistan, the locals have done no favor to their fate. Feudalism is literally worshipped in Pakistan. The people are also part of the problem.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Then who have been voting them into power all these years?

These are the same tribal chiefs who used to blow tgas pipes and wouldn't let any concrete structure build in their area over royalty issues. Forget about the laborers tell me How many punjabi and sindhi professors and doctors have been targeted in the past years by the naraz baloch that now nobody is willing to go serve in balochistan? And to top it off the Baloch politicians are least interested in what happens in their province. They spend more time on isb and Karachi than in their own constituencies.

You have raised some fair points, I would like to respond.

Then who have been voting them into power all these years?

I am being completely honest to you, elections in Baluchistan are a joke, the elections are fudged, and people loyal to the state get elected. The last Balochistan goverment, which was selected was toppled over night by the military intelligence.

Source: Chief Minister Of Pakistan's Balochistan Resigns Amid Political Crisis

Forget about the laborers tell me How many punjabi and sindhi professors and doctors have been targeted in the past years by the naraz baloch

Let me make this clear, I am not representative of what you call Naraz Baloch. I have always strongly condemned killing of any innocent person in Baluchistan. And may I also add my friend, those were the assets of Baluchistan, the teachers and doctors and they were killed by RAW not by Baloch people. They want to keep Baloch people uneducated so that they could be used to fuel the fire of anti state activities. I would expect the state to understand that.

Baloch politicians are least interested in what happens in their province. They spend more time on isb and Karachi than in their own constituencies.

Exactly my point , they are not the representative of an ordinary Baloch. The chiefs are only handful. Not more than dozen. Again its the responsibility of state and not individual tribes.

The state needs to sit and talk with these people. Listen to their legitimate demands. It is a pity that Balochistan like other provinces in Pakistan remains impoverished. Of course the blame game is in reality a two way street. Whilst all previous governments have neglected human development all across Pakistan, the locals have done no favor to their fate. Feudalism is literally worshipped in Pakistan.

Exactly my point. Please do that.

 

[Dalit]

Exactly my point. Please do that.

Only not with terrorists who work on foreign agenda and undermine the state.

Do you think Balochistan is the only province in Pakistan that feels neglected? Poverty and injustice are widespread across various parts of Pakistan. Balochistan is not an exception. You don't pick up arms to create bloodshed on the behest of foreign powers just because you feel aggrieved. There are much better ways of tackling injustice. Start with own initiatives.

 

[Mrc]

Whole department shud be put in jail for sedition

 

[Chakar The Great]

Only not with terrorists who work on foreign agenda and undermine the state.

Do you think Balochistan is the only province in Pakistan that feels neglected? Poverty and injustice are widespread across various parts of Pakistan. Balochistan is not an exception.

May be its not, but people are not dying in Lahore or Karachi. But they are dying in Balochistan. They are treated as traitor.

 

[Dalit]

May be its not, but people are not dying in Lahore or Karachi. But they are dying in Balochistan. They are treated as traitor.

BLA is treated as a traitor just like Nawaz Sharif in Punjab and Altaf Hussain in Karachi. BLA in Balochistan is dying because they are involved in illegal insurgency against the state. When you resort to armed violence bloodshed is the logical outcome.

The ordinary people in Balochistan are fine like the rest of Pakistan. They might have their daily grievances, but who doesn't have such grievances across Pakistan? Balochistan is not an exception when it comes to grievances.

 

[Cuirassier]

May be its not, but people are not dying in Lahore or Karachi. But they are dying in Balochistan. They are treated as traitor.

Again - those who take up arms are dying. Punjabis & Sindhis are less alien to the concept of a state that is the higher authority, hence more docile.

 

[Chakar The Great]

When did I endorse extra-judicial killings? These men who are kill are ARMED to the teeth. They enjoy killing our men. They have a choice in going to the mountains. Talking about making no sense - the same stuff was repeated by TTP/LeI apologists when operations were underway against them - own people, unfair, unIslamic etc.

So far the army itself has been kept away - FC is doing most of the job. But as you can see without an operation, they are taking losses, which is bound to cause a reaction.

I am not an apologist, what would I apologize for??
Its the state of Pakistan who owes us an apology, who has disappointed many like me, who has killed our youth. Yet we dont need an apology, all we want is our BASIC Fundamental rights that the constitution of Pakistan promises.

 

[Dalit]

I am not an apologist, what would I apologize for??
Its the state of Pakistan who owes us an apology, who has disappointed many like me, who has killed our youth. Yet we dont need an apology, all we want is our BASIC Fundamental rights that the constitution of Pakistan promises.

Explain to me which youth Pakistan (as you call it) has killed in Balochistan? Share the names. I am very interested in finding out who these people are.

The state of Pakistan doesn't kill innocent Balochis. It only goes after BLA elements who are involved in an insurgency.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Whole department shud be put in jail for sedition

How about an F16 strike on the department? This will teach them a good lesson.

Explain to me which youth Pakistan as you call it has killed in Balochistan? Share the names.

This makes no difference, i dont wana engage in a futile discussion here. Both of us know hundreds an thousands have died.