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Putin To Klaus Schwab: Russia is Part of Europe; Russia And Western Europe Are One Civilization!

Do you have home movies and pictures
No home movies. Nostalgia is a function of old age. When your young you think it will last forever so you don't capture it. You live it. Thinking about it now even makes my legs go jelly. Photos yes. I have lost many because they were left with my parents and my brother took most of the old collection. Now I not on talking terms so I can't get copies. But I am trying to get some from my other brother. I did Moscow, Alma Aty, Paris, Rome in one tour as well as Pakistan which was my first trip there.

But I shagged myself through Europe .....
 
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Well, you know I can't bul*shit whether it;s from Indians, Muslims, Arabs, Americans or Russians or even the fcukin Germans who after having killed more human beings than all the wars in last 1000 years a well as nearly wiping out Jews today act like butter would not melt in their mouth when the same mouth is fouling off about "Muslim invasion". Fcukin the galls of them to use the word "invasion".

And @vostok I have seen your 'freezer' way back in 1989 when it had that red flag fluttering. I did a tour of Moscow in July 1989. I have been to Kazakstan, Alma Aty which is barely 500 miles north of Islamabad. Kazakstan was flooded with Russians and other Euros. It's okay for a Ruski to roll about in Alma Aty but if they see a Muslim in Altrincham they think it's end of Western civilization.
I am not kidding. These Chinks have serious issue with being short. So until they begin genetic re-engineering to sprout long legs the riuch ones go off and fish for long pair of legs that in Russian Far East. It's industry. Money for long legs.

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No home movies. Nostalgia is a function of old age. When your young you think it will last forever so you don't capture it. You live it. Thinking about it now even makes my legs go jelly. Photos yes. I have lost many because they were left with my parents and my brother took most of the old collection. Now I not on talking terms so I can't get copies. But I am trying to get some from my other brother. I did Moscow, Alma Aty, Paris, Rome in one tour as well as Pakistan which was my first trip there.

But I shagged myself through Europe .....

About a quarter of the population in Kazakhstan is still ethnic Russian about 3 million still but hey these days anyone can just take video on their phone
 
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In terms of geo-politics I think the Russians are playing a pretty good long term game with this "Eurasian" schtick a lot of these ex Soviet republics have issues at the moment eventhough China will be much bigger player in Eurasian sphere for the forseeable future they need some form of millitary escort in some regions of the periphery I see three actually 4 options Russia,Turkey,Iran and Pakistan maybe but more so Russia and Turkey as they are more stable partners than the other two @vostok @Indus Pakistan I think the US and Europe lost a chance to counter China and that was Russia but it seems Trump was the only one despite being a doofus to understand that
 
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Russian President Vladimir Putin: You know there are things of an absolutely fundamental nature such as our common culture. Major European political figures have talked in the recent past about the need to expand relations between Europe and Russia, saying that Russia is part of Europe. Geographically and, most importantly, culturally, we are one civilisation. French leaders have spoken of the need to create a single space from Lisbon to the Urals. I believe, and I mentioned this, why the Urals? To Vladivostok. ...
there are just far FAR too many cracks with europe's sub cultures. brexit is one such example. every european nation pursues their own agendas with great zeal and fervor, simply saying that Russia (which by the way has always been treated as the red headed step child by the rest of europe) is a part of the same culture and civilization as europe is just not practical...frankly, "culture and civilization" is NOT even the lowest priority for the rest of europe. hatreds against each other run deep.
 
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there are just far FAR too many cracks with europe's sub cultures. brexit is one such example. every european nation pursues their own agendas with great zeal and fervor, simply saying that Russia (which by the way has always been treated as the red headed step child by the rest of europe) is a part of the same culture and civilization as europe is just not practical...frankly, "culture and civilization" is NOT even the lowest priority for the rest of europe. hatreds against each other run deep.

I mean years of interacting with both Russian/European Nationalists types on various forums have led to this conculsion

European"solidarity" is fake and to many Western Euro nationalists Russians are Mongol rape babies or half Asiatic castes
 
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Well, from my perspective and I have said this many time, @vostok might recall, that Russia is European. Having met some Russians in real life they appeared to be closer to English then say Italians or Spanish. A Russian, Englishman, German, Dane are almost indistinguishable from every aspect. Cultural, genetically, historically and as a civilization.

Russians similar to the English ? What are you talking about ???
Russia unlike England is not and have never been racist.


Some qoutes from book "Hitler's English Inspirers" by Manuel Sarkisyanz (emphasis mine):

"And, once the Empire was securely established, there was "inability
of Britons to treat the African as a human being
", to use the formulation from
Prelude To Imperialism (Alan Cairns). Yet, as this work points out, "the
ethnocentric attitudes of individual Britons fade into insignificance when contrasted
with the attitudes and conduct of African tribes to each other". . . "African
experience, as a result, was brutalizing human sensitivity".1 It was in this spirit
that, by Queen Victoria's third decade, a Colonel Bedford Pirn revealed to the
Anthropological Society of London that "to govern alien races had yet to be
learned by England" . . . And then there was the massacre of British civilians by
Indian "mutineers" in Cawnpore in 1857, an event which was followed by panic
over an imaginary Negro rebellion in Jamaica in 1865 ("of Negroes 'drunk with
blood' and 'mad with excitement'"). Then there were the concerns resulting from
the abolition of slavery in the United States. All these fears brought about the
predominance of Racism in Victorian imperial thought2
(Anglo-Saxon racism was turned—not least—against the Celts. Thomas
Carlyle asked, "is it not a considerable blessing to have escaped being born a
Celt", and came to consider most Irish as "deceptive human swine" (1849). 'The
extremes to which England was prepared to go to empty Ireland of its original
inhabitants became clear during the famine years of 1846-1848. The relief given
b y the English government to the Irish... was deliberately kept at levels guaranteed
to produce the resultant demographic changes... [which were Jwelcomed by the
leading members of England's society and government!:] The deaths by famine
and emigration did... clear land of uneconomic subsistence producers... for
rationalized agricultural enterprise", as Richard Rubinstein points out. By 1850
the Edinburgh Professor of Anatomy, Robert Knox, was not only attributing to
the Irish a series of qualities incompatible with middle-classness. He presented as
science the view that in Ireland, "the source of all evil lies in the race, the Celtic
race of Ireland.... The race must be forced from the soil; ... .they must leave.
England's safety requires it". For "human character is traceable solely to the
nature of... race".)3"

"British Fascism—and England's Nordic League in particular—emphasized
race distinctions within Europe: Richard Thurlow describes a "shift from the
traditional nineteenth century assumptions of Anglo-Saxon authority over colonial
peoples to an elitist anti-democratic control of 'Nordics' over 'Mediterraneans'
within British society" itself.2 In the minds of many, 'Niggers' really did begin at
Calais—or Dublin. "Irishmen were cursed by a double indictment, judged to be both
low-class andmembers of an inferior—the Celtic—race... dirty, emotional, shiftless,
untrustworthy, undisciplined and unstable
".3
So much so, that in such "foreign blood... admixtures", French, Irish, Jewish,
"were seen threats to the inherent superiority of Anglo-Saxons". Indeed, the French
were regarded as "scarcely white", their skin sometimes not less dark than that of
India's Brahmins, and "utterly irresponsible". And, as to the Irish, their Celtic
vices—in contrast with Anglo-Saxon virtues—were a persistent theme in Victorian
literature: The Irish had attributed to them what it was respectable for the Anglo-
Saxon to repress—emotions. And, "of all the Irishman's [alleged] traits..., the
emotional was... the most damning.. ."•»"

"Indeed, so "low in the scale of humanity" was heplaced, that "the Irish Celt [was]
even portrayed with half human and half simian features": "Among Englishmen
there were equations between apes,... savages and Irishmen
.... For, in Ireland,*
in 1845, Froude claimed to have encountered people that "seemed more like tribes
of squalid apes than human beings". And, still in 1860, his fellow "historian",
Charles Kingsley, felt thatin Irelandhe had been "haunted by human chimpanzees...
To see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black, one would not feel it so
much..."
To apes, pigs, Chinese, Maoris and Hottentots "were linked the Irish". In fact,
"the Irish occupied a position little more than halfway between the Anglo-Saxons
at the top and the Hottentots at the bottom". And there was a similarity between
the Anglo-Saxon image of Irishmen and Africans: 'This process of distortion
resembled... the ways in which Englishmen formed their 'image' of Africa before
1850". Indeed, as a "scientist", John Beddoe deemed that the Irish had Negro
ancestry.
"

"Still in 1891, a retired British India civil servant "could not bear to treat the Irish
like white men".2 And, toblacken thestarving Irish, Thomas Carlyle recommended
(and that during the Great Famine): "Blacklead these two million idle beggars and
sell them to Brazil as niggers
".

"(Sidney Webb warned against "Race deterioration, if not race suicide",
"national deterioration; or this country gradually falling to the Irish and the
Jews".4 Milner, England's High Commissioner in South Africa, was dedicated
to the Imperial idea. The New Statesman reported in 1913 : "In his desire for the
integrity of the Empire, Lord Milner, like the Socialists, is really concerned about
the breeding of an Imperial Race'..."5 His subsequent Credo concluded by
advocating the corresponding alternative: "Follow the race. The British state
must follow the race
." This was published in The Times, then republished and
"widely distributed to schools and other public bodies".6"

"Its Puritan genesis continued to determine the character of Enghsh nationalism.
England had been the first country where the entire population had been seized by
a national consciousness. It was articulated by Kipling in 1893 as follows: "For,
the Lord, our God Most High, .. .He had smote us the pathway to the ends of the
earth". "If blood be the price of admiralty, Lord God, we ha'paid in full!" Thiswas
the spirit in which, for Milton's Puritan England, Israel's conduct had already been
the model to be deployed against Ireland.5
And for this—both Biblical and Darwinist—racism of Englishness, a Celt was
almost as inferior as the "nigger": "Irishmen... came next to the Malay"—in
"braincase" (of which Englishmen—quite predictably—were believed to have the
largest, according to the craniologist Samuel Morton). Serving as "explanatiori'rit
was declared that "the population of Ireland... derived from the Ibero-Mongoloid
stock": "... the source of all evil hes in the race, the Celtic race of Ireland."' Edward
A. Freeman
( 1823-1892), in 1881 commented on a visit to America: "This would
be a grand land if only every Irishman would kill a negro, and be hanged for it
".

I find it bizzare that many East Europeans look aghast at migrants from Asia in Western Europe and cry "end of Western Civilization" (...)

Just because Navalny who is supported by regimes in London and Washington is comparing migrants to rotten tooth that should be removed does not mean that as you sad "many East Europeans look aghast at migrants from Asia in Western Europe"
Now you know why Navalny is so loved by regimes in London and Washington.

(...) but ignore the masssive regions of Asia extending across Siberia, to Caucasus to Central Asia that were invaded and natives genocided with massive European migrants colonizing the lands. Or being forcefully face cuyltural or religious genocide.

Natives in North America and Australia were genocided by Anglo-Saxons. Natives in Siberia are doing ok. Russian Minister of Defence Shoigu's father was Tuvan and his mother was Ruskie.

With shrinking population and a economy heavily dependant on oil and gas Russia's future is either as backyard of Europe or a Chinese vassal state providing tall women to rich Chinese men.

You are mentaly living in 1990s. Russian economy is less dependant on oil and gas than it used to.
AFAIK there are less Chinese living in Russia now than there were before 1917. But of course regimes in London and Washington are frightened by the cooperation between Russia and China so they are desperate to spread propaganda about alleged "Chinese takover of Siberia".
 
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Culturally speaking, Russia is a European country. There's no doubt about that, although it does have a large population of Asian people like Tatars and others. But it is an Eastern European country like Ukraine, Belarus, and to a lesser extent Poland, Czech Republic and other Slavic nations.

If we want to talk about Western European countries, Russia is probably closer to Germany than any other Western European country. But I wouldn't really go as far as claiming that Russia is similar to Western European countries or they are one civilization.
 
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RUssians are not westerners and maybe apart from tsarist kings Russians were never racist to the extent western europeans used to be though they have some other issues. IN fact Russians themselves were seen as inferior race by Nazis. There was some famous german (forget the name) who said " I never met a slav i can respect and if i do i will shoot him".

When Nazis occupied Soviet the brutality they inflicted was far different from the much better treatment they gave to france or belgium.

RUssia has its own role in humanity and must stand on its own legs. i am not sure what Putin is trying to do here though.
 
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RUssians are not westerners and maybe apart from tsarist kings Russians were never racist to the extent western europeans used to be though they have some other issues. IN fact Russians themselves were seen as inferior race by Nazis. There was some famous german (forget the name) who said " I never met a slav i can respect and if i do i will shoot him".

When Nazis occupied Soviet the brutality they inflicted was far different from the much better treatment they gave to france or belgium.

RUssia has its own role in humanity and must stand on its own legs. i am not sure what Putin is trying to do here though.
What you said here, Cousin vlad knows this as well

He is just spouting this to finish off the NATO alliance. He knows that Europe without US and nato alliance is weak. Wont be able to stand upto russia.
.unlike westerners, russians dont consume rubbish
 
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RUssians are not westerners and maybe apart from tsarist kings Russians were never racist to the extent western europeans used to be though they have some other issues. IN fact Russians themselves were seen as inferior race by Nazis. There was some famous german (forget the name) who said " I never met a slav i can respect and if i do i will shoot him".

When Nazis occupied Soviet the brutality they inflicted was far different from the much better treatment they gave to france or belgium.

RUssia has its own role in humanity and must stand on its own legs. i am not sure what Putin is trying to do here though.
Well, Nazis were rather an exception in history of wars between Russia and different European countries over the centuries. Putin is not asking them to let Russia in some elite club. He reminds them history - apart from Russia Europe has no friends. Noone will come to help in the dark days coming. If Europe wants Russian help - they have to show some respect.
 
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Well, Nazis were rather an exception in history of wars between Russia and different European countries over the centuries. Putin is not asking them to let Russia in some elite club. He reminds them history - apart from Russia Europe has no friends. Noone will come to help in the dark days coming. If Europe wants Russian help - they have to show some respect.

Europe only survives if it included Russia. And vice versa. Whereas Russia would last some decades longer after all other european nations are gone. Also EU has no future.

A new Europe is needed.
 
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Russia is too big.
The United States will not allow Russia to seize the leadership of the Western world, nor will France and Germany allow a huge Russia to seize the leadership of Europe.
Unless Russia is split into more than five small countries, then the United States, Britain, France and Germany will be very happy that these small countries have joined the European Union and NATO.
Europe only survives if it included Russia. And vice versa. Whereas Russia would last some decades longer after all other european nations are gone. Also EU has no future.

A new Europe is needed.
Germany will be happy that several small Slavic countries obey the leadership of Germany, but will not allow Germany to become Russia’s little brother
 
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Russia is too big.
The United States will not allow Russia to seize the leadership of the Western world, nor will France and Germany allow a huge Russia to seize the leadership of Europe.
Unless Russia is split into more than five small countries, then the United States, Britain, France and Germany will be very happy that these small countries have joined the European Union and NATO.

Germany will be happy that several small Slavic countries obey the leadership of Germany, but will not allow Germany to become Russia’s little brother

Well, only in square miles Russia is "too big" :D In most of the other points Russia fits well into Europe, even in the far east of Russia.

And yes, at the moment the leading Elite in Germany and some other european countries do not lead for the sake of the european people, but for the sake of their wallets and outer european interests. So the first step is to bring down the EU to free the nations in europe and to bring the whole europe together including Russia and Ukraine. This merger and a new kind of working together by letting the nations souvereign would be unbeatable for a very long time, would let US and China look like kids.
 
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