Putin says Ukraine can join NATO under a government that is not hostile to Russia like the current government which makes nuclear bomb to nuke Moscow

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1679528282448961536

 

[Oldman1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1679528282448961536

Should have thought of that before invading. Now Russia has a very hostile country next door and thousands of Russians dying each month having to defend the territory they took.

 

[jhungary]

Should have thought of that before invading. Now Russia has a very hostile country next door and thousands of Russians dying each month having to defend the territory they took.

Zelenskyy got actaully more than people think he would had from Vilnius Summit.

One of the condition is for NATO to withdraw Membership Action and gave Ukraine Fast tracked application like Sweden and Finland. While the headline come out of that meeting is there are no timeline for Ukraine to join, but then we all know that because as long as Ukraine is at war, they can't join anyway because Article 5 will trigger and will bring NATO at war with Russia and NATO have no say on when this war will end, because that is between Russia and Ukraine.

The thing is, dropping MAP stage for Ukraine shred multi-year waits after the war, membership ascension will now takes months, instead of years. What it mean for Putin and Russia is this, as soon as this war ends, Ukraine is going to be fast tracked into NATO, which mean Putin would have to keep this war going as long as possible because any cease of hostilities will see Ukraine joining NATO.

By saying this, Putin more or less agreed to the obvious, that is they can't afford to have this war going on for long. Ukraine is going to be in NATO, with or without Donbas, what he is saying is like someone try to grab anything they can get, he still want to topple Zelenskyy government, but fat chance this would happen, and even by some miracle this does happen and Zelenskyy step down for whatever reason, the next Ukrainian government is going to be hostile toward Russia.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Zelenskyy got actaully more than people think he would had from Vilnius Summit.

One of the condition is for NATO to withdraw Membership Action and gave Ukraine Fast tracked application like Sweden and Finland. While the headline come out of that meeting is there are no timeline for Ukraine to join, but then we all know that because as long as Ukraine is at war, they can't join anyway because Article 5 will trigger and will bring NATO at war with Russia and NATO have no say on when this war will end, because that is between Russia and Ukraine.

The thing is, dropping MAP stage for Ukraine shred multi-year waits after the war, membership ascension will now takes months, instead of years. What it mean for Putin and Russia is this, as soon as this war ends, Ukraine is going to be fast tracked into NATO, which mean Putin would have to keep this war going as long as possible because any cease of hostilities will see Ukraine joining NATO.

By saying this, Putin more or less agreed to the obvious, that is they can't afford to have this war going on for long. Ukraine is going to be in NATO, with or without Donbas, what he is saying is like someone try to grab anything they can get, he still want to topple Zelenskyy government, but fat chance this would happen, and even by some miracle this does happen and Zelenskyy step down for whatever reason, the next Ukrainian government is going to be hostile toward Russia.

Australia must provide weapons to Ukraine. Help Ukraine occupy Moscow... This is the only thing Australia can do for the world.

 

[jhungary]

Australia must provide weapons to Ukraine. Help Ukraine occupy Moscow... This is the only thing Australia can do for the world.

Why don't you go back to argue with @beijingwalker ?? It's at least fun to watch

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Why don't you go back to argue with @beijingwalker ?? It's at least fun to watch

Australia must help Ukraine to occupy Moscow. We look forward to Australia doing so.

Why don't you go back to argue with @beijingwalker ?? It's at least fun to watch

We humans want to see Australia go further in the Russia-Ukraine war.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Should have thought of that before invading. Now Russia has a very hostile country next door and thousands of Russians dying each month having to defend the territory they took.

The sacrifice is worth it considering Ukraine was building nuclear bomb to wipe Russia off the map the way Iran was building nuclear bomb to wipe Israel off the map.

One of the condition is for NATO to withdraw Membership Action and gave Ukraine Fast tracked application like Sweden and Finland.

Lip service. When Trump takes office in 2025 that plan will be cancelled in a heartbeat. What giveth can be taketh.

 

[Oldman1]

The sacrifice is worth it considering Ukraine was building nuclear bomb to wipe Russia off the map the way Iran was building nuclear bomb to wipe Israel off the map.

No proof that they were making a nuclear bomb and Putin himself never mentioned it one of the reasons why he invaded at the beginning of the war.

 

[nahtanbob]

No proof that they were making a nuclear bomb and Putin himself never mentioned it one of the reasons why he invaded at the beginning of the war.

Even if I was making a nuke attacking Russia with nukes is a thankless exercise

 

[Han Patriot]

Look at the crazies here talking about nuking Russia. You cheerleaders are high on fentanyl man.

 

[Menthol]

Should have thought of that before invading. Now Russia has a very hostile country next door and thousands of Russians dying each month having to defend the territory they took.

Russia is not a product by Russia itself.

Today Russia is a product by the West.

The West wants a punching bag, now the West gets the punching bag.

There's no need to blame Russia over this, but gratitude to be able to fulfill one dream.

 

[Oldman1]

Russia is not a product by Russia itself.

Today Russia is a product by the West.

The West wants a punching bag, now the West gets the punching bag.

There's no need to blame Russia over this, but gratitude to be able to fulfill one dream.

That be like saying Ukraine is a product by Russia and they have to deal with it.

Look at the crazies here talking about nuking Russia. You cheerleaders are high on fentanyl man.

Russia is the one bringing up nuclear threats all the time especially about hitting on Russian soil or Crimea and supplying weapons each time that happens. Ukraine doesn't care.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Look at the crazies here talking about nuking Russia. You cheerleaders are high on fentanyl man.

It is not a taboo for the West.

Japan was already nuked in the past.

So there is a good precedent.

 

[aziqbal]

That be like saying Ukraine is a product by Russia and they have to deal with it.


Russia is the one bringing up nuclear threats all the time especially about hitting on Russian soil or Crimea and supplying weapons each time that happens. Ukraine doesn't care.

at least Russian men fight openly, they die but fight

coward Americans fighting behind enemy lines and sending in Ukrainians to be slaughtered

Russia is a true global power in both economic and military terms

Stupid West thought it was Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan where sanctions and united front would win

at some point you need real men to do the fighting on the ground and the West has no real men

 

[Oldman1]

at least Russian men fight openly, they die but fight

coward Americans fighting behind enemy lines and sending in Ukrainians to be slaughtered

Russia is a true global power in both economic and military terms

Stupid West thought it was Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan where sanctions and united front would win

at some point you need real men to do the fighting on the ground and the West has no real men

LOL! Says the same strategy that the Russians used during the Vietnam war and the U.S. did the same in return in Afghanistan during the 1980s. The Ukrainians are the ones resisting and doing so by their choice. They just want weapons so they can fight effectively.