Putin and Erdogan push for Syria talks without US or UN

[Banglar Bir]

Putin and Erdogan push for Syria talks without US or UN
16 Dec 2016 - 22:45

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/artic...Erdogan-push-for-Syria-talks-without-US-or-UN

Protesters shout anti-Iran slogans and hold placards in front of the Iranian embassy in Istanbul yesterday, against Iranian involvement in the siege of Aleppo.
Reuters
Moscow/Istanbul: President Vladimir Putin said he and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan are working to organise a new series of Syrian peace talks without the involvement of the United States or the United Nations.
In a snub to Washington, Putin made clear yesterday that the initiative was the sole preserve of Moscow and Turkey and that the peace talks, if they happened, would be in addition to intermittent UN-brokered negotiations in Geneva.
“The next step is to reach an agreement on a total ceasefire across the whole of Syria,” Putin said in Tokyo. “We are conducting very active negotiations with representatives of the armed opposition, brokered by Turkey.”
The surprise move underlines the growing strength of Moscow’s rapprochement with Ankara, with which it fell out last year over the shooting down of a Russian plane, and reflects Russia’s desire to cement its growing influence in the Middle East and more widely.
Turkey, which wants to boost its global sway too, is also deeply frustrated by US policy in Syria, particularly Washington’s support for Kurdish militia fighters it sees as a hostile force, and by what it views as Barack Obama’s failure to give enough support to the rebels.

 

[New World]

So, finally some peace for Syrians..

 

[Taimoor Khan]

We will see the same happening in Afghanistan as well. Pak-China-Russia will be meeting in Moscow to discuss Afghanistan.

 

[friendly_troll96]

 

[damm1t]

Yankees will not like it.. but .. who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[usernameless]

Turkey, which wants to boost its global sway too, is also deeply frustrated by US policy in Syria, particularly Washington’s support for Kurdish militia fighters it sees as a hostile force, and by what it views as Barack Obama’s failure to give enough support to the rebels.

Cmon reuters, at least dare to explain to your audience why Turkey regards those 'Kurdish forces' as hostile. Maybe because that force is called the ypg/pyd, which is the undeniable Syrian wing of the pkk like flesh and blood, which in turn is a terror organization on the terror list of Turkey and, very ironically, the EU and US too, yet supported by the EU and US Filthy deceivers.

Busted.

 

[brokk]

Putin and Erdogan push for Syria talks without US or UN
16 Dec 2016 - 22:45

https://thepeninsulaqatar.com/artic...Erdogan-push-for-Syria-talks-without-US-or-UN

Protesters shout anti-Iran slogans and hold placards in front of the Iranian embassy in Istanbul yesterday, against Iranian involvement in the siege of Aleppo.
Reuters
Moscow/Istanbul: President Vladimir Putin said he and his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan are working to organise a new series of Syrian peace talks without the involvement of the United States or the United Nations.
In a snub to Washington, Putin made clear yesterday that the initiative was the sole preserve of Moscow and Turkey and that the peace talks, if they happened, would be in addition to intermittent UN-brokered negotiations in Geneva.
“The next step is to reach an agreement on a total ceasefire across the whole of Syria,” Putin said in Tokyo. “We are conducting very active negotiations with representatives of the armed opposition, brokered by Turkey.”
The surprise move underlines the growing strength of Moscow’s rapprochement with Ankara, with which it fell out last year over the shooting down of a Russian plane, and reflects Russia’s desire to cement its growing influence in the Middle East and more widely.
Turkey, which wants to boost its global sway too, is also deeply frustrated by US policy in Syria, particularly Washington’s support for Kurdish militia fighters it sees as a hostile force, and by what it views as Barack Obama’s failure to give enough support to the rebels.

I think Iran has lost it but time will tell if it erupts in an Syria or Ukraine like fashion or not. As for Russia and Turkey, though both countries don't agree 100%, the goal is basically the same... and that is to stop the war and get politics going keeping Syria whole, and far away from splintering. Russia can't have the war go on forever due economic reasons, and Turkey doesn't need another 10 million refugees. So both sides are interested in negotiating and re-negotiating...
Credibility of the west, in Russia has fallen drastically with the embargo's, US actions, and NATO bases getting closer and closer to Russian borders or ex-Soviet countries, agreements get tossed by the west due to whims out of the blue... so there is no credibility to even speak about. As for Turkey credibility of the west also took a nose dive the last few years as they've been supplying and arming the Syrian and Iraqi (and Iranian, and Lebanese) wing of a terrorist organization that kill civilians in an ISIS/DAESH like fashion within Turkey, the CIA's failed coup attempt in Turkey, failure of support for Turkey from the west, and NATO, and the steady rise of turkophobia in the EU are mere nails in the coffin for EU - Turkey, US - Turkey relations.. which will only get worse in the upcoming year or so as Turkey will be cleaning out N. Syria and N.Iraq, whether they like it or not.. as a footnote; Militia/rebels don't kill civilians in acts of terror, snatch children and use them as child fighters, deal in narcotics etc.. (this is what those 'kurdish rebels' do, they are the PKK, YPG, PYD, PJAK, KGK.... too many names take a look here under "Related and Associated Organizations" )