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PTI still four short of magical figure in NA
By Danish Hussain
Published: July 31, 2018
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Even if it wins over MQM and all independents, party will still need BNP's support. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Getting a simple majority in the 342-seat National Assembly has become an uphill task for the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) as despite all-out efforts the party, which emerged as the biggest political force of the country in July 25 polls, is still far off from reaching the magical figure of 172.

At the moment, the PTI – even if it musters the support of smaller allied parties including the Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) and independents and adds candidates on reserved seats – has 168 seats and is four members short of a simple majority in the lower house of parliament.

Interestingly on the day of voting for the election of the next prime minister, the number 168 will further reduce to 161 given the fact that all those MNAs-elect belonging to ruling coalition who have won multiple seats will have to retain only one seat and vacate the other ones.

PML-Q to hold talks with PTI at Bani Gala today, sources claim

Article 91 of the Constitution describes criteria to elect a prime minister. Its subsection 4 says: “Prime Minister shall be elected by the votes of the majority of the total membership of the National Assembly.”

The total membership of the National Assembly is 342 and majority can be attained by securing the support of 172 MNAs. Currently, the PTI has 160 votes in total. However, it does not mean that if one fails to get a simple majority, they cannot become the prime minister.

“Provided that, if no member secures such majority (simple majority) in the first poll, a second poll shall be held between the members who secure the two highest numbers of votes in the first poll and the member who secures a majority of votes of the members present and voting shall be declared to have been elected as Prime Minister,” subsection 4 further reads.

The current situation suggests that prime minister in waiting for Imran Khan will not be able to secure a simple majority. However, he will be elected by securing ‘majority of votes of the members’ who will be present in the House on voting day.

PTI

According to provisional results available with the Election Commission of Pakistan’s (ECP) website, the PTI has won 116 seats. Four independent MNAs – one from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) and three from Punjab – have so far joined the party putting its total to 120.

The PTI will be able to get roughly 25 reserved seats for women in the National Assembly – 15 from Punjab, seven from K-P and three from Sindh. The PTI is also expected to get some four seats reserved for minorities in the lower house. It brings the party’s total strength to 149 seats.

Allied parties

The Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) on Monday pledged its all-out support for the PTI at the Centre and in Punjab also. The PML-Q has four seats.

The PTI is also in talks with the MQM. Even if the MQM becomes an ally of the PTI, collectively all the coalition partners including the MQM-P will be able to bring 19 more seats.

Among allied partners, the MQM tops the chart with six seats while it will also be allotted a seat reserved for women. So collectively the MQM-P will add seven to the grand total.

The Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) has four seats while it will also be given a seat reserved for women. So BAP will have a total of five seats. The Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) has two seats, while Sheikh Rashid’s Awami Muslim League has one seat. It will take the grand total to 168.

PTI in lead to form govt in Punjab as nine independent MPAs-elect join party

Following one MNA one vote formula for the PM’s election, this number will be drop to 161 – as the PTI chief Imran Khan will vacate four seats, Ghulam Sarwar Khan, Tahir Sadiq and Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi one seat each.

Some 13 MNAs from across the country are elected as independents. Four of them have already joined the PTI while nine have yet to take decisions. If all of those nine independents announce to join PTI, the number will scale up to 170, still short of two votes to get a simple majority.

To gain a simple majority, the PTI has also initiated talks with Balochistan National Party (BNP) that has won three seats. According to a statement, senior PTI leader Jahangir Khan Tareen on Monday telephoned Akhtar Mengal and invited him to join the coalition government.

“Mengal has promised that he will hold talks with PTI leadership in the coming days,” reads the statement.
 
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Imran himself said that a coalition government would be a misfortune for Pakistan. This is clearly a coalition government, MQM with its demands, PMLQ with its demands for important positions, Baluchistan would literally be hanging by a string, any mis adventure by army in Baluchistan and these parties would threaten to leave. Also, in Baluchistan they were all PMLN supporters before, any turn of event and they leave PTI and then a vote of no confidence would come in.
Even though we r very happy but in current situation its mission impossible for Imran to deliver all promises made by him.
 
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I sense sooner or later our whole system will be (LATE).
67 seats to PmL(N) and those to PPP are more proof of our LATEness than either Mutahidda aur mullah chameleons.
The nations own educated and aware failed to help out those with less of each.
If Pakistan is burdened by poor voters not being able to select properly then it is the fault of their fellow countrymen and not electables or politicians.
 
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67 seats to PmL(N) and those to PPP are more proof of our LATEness than either Mutahidda aur mullah chameleons.
The nations own educated and aware failed to help out those with less of each.
If Pakistan is burdened by poor voters not being able to select properly then it is the fault of their fellow countrymen and not electables or politicians.
That was set to be like that from 2015.Voters are like sheeps in slaughter house,one butcher or another butcher would do the job.
Sitution seems to be pretty hopless in all sectors.
Holy momineen have pushed things into sphere from where only Allah Almighty would take us out.
 
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PTI still four short of magical figure in NA
By Danish Hussain
Published: July 31, 2018
1769845-imrankhan-1533018373-792-640x480.jpg

Even if it wins over MQM and all independents, party will still need BNP's support. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Getting a simple majority in the 342-seat National Assembly has become an uphill task for the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) as despite all-out efforts the party, which emerged as the biggest political force of the country in July 25 polls, is still far off from reaching the magical figure of 172.

At the moment, the PTI – even if it musters the support of smaller allied parties including the Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) and independents and adds candidates on reserved seats – has 168 seats and is four members short of a simple majority in the lower house of parliament.

Interestingly on the day of voting for the election of the next prime minister, the number 168 will further reduce to 161 given the fact that all those MNAs-elect belonging to ruling coalition who have won multiple seats will have to retain only one seat and vacate the other ones.

PML-Q to hold talks with PTI at Bani Gala today, sources claim

Article 91 of the Constitution describes criteria to elect a prime minister. Its subsection 4 says: “Prime Minister shall be elected by the votes of the majority of the total membership of the National Assembly.”

The total membership of the National Assembly is 342 and majority can be attained by securing the support of 172 MNAs. Currently, the PTI has 160 votes in total. However, it does not mean that if one fails to get a simple majority, they cannot become the prime minister.

“Provided that, if no member secures such majority (simple majority) in the first poll, a second poll shall be held between the members who secure the two highest numbers of votes in the first poll and the member who secures a majority of votes of the members present and voting shall be declared to have been elected as Prime Minister,” subsection 4 further reads.

The current situation suggests that prime minister in waiting for Imran Khan will not be able to secure a simple majority. However, he will be elected by securing ‘majority of votes of the members’ who will be present in the House on voting day.

PTI

According to provisional results available with the Election Commission of Pakistan’s (ECP) website, the PTI has won 116 seats. Four independent MNAs – one from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (K-P) and three from Punjab – have so far joined the party putting its total to 120.

The PTI will be able to get roughly 25 reserved seats for women in the National Assembly – 15 from Punjab, seven from K-P and three from Sindh. The PTI is also expected to get some four seats reserved for minorities in the lower house. It brings the party’s total strength to 149 seats.

Allied parties

The Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) on Monday pledged its all-out support for the PTI at the Centre and in Punjab also. The PML-Q has four seats.

The PTI is also in talks with the MQM. Even if the MQM becomes an ally of the PTI, collectively all the coalition partners including the MQM-P will be able to bring 19 more seats.

Among allied partners, the MQM tops the chart with six seats while it will also be allotted a seat reserved for women. So collectively the MQM-P will add seven to the grand total.

The Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) has four seats while it will also be given a seat reserved for women. So BAP will have a total of five seats. The Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) has two seats, while Sheikh Rashid’s Awami Muslim League has one seat. It will take the grand total to 168.

PTI in lead to form govt in Punjab as nine independent MPAs-elect join party

Following one MNA one vote formula for the PM’s election, this number will be drop to 161 – as the PTI chief Imran Khan will vacate four seats, Ghulam Sarwar Khan, Tahir Sadiq and Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi one seat each.

Some 13 MNAs from across the country are elected as independents. Four of them have already joined the PTI while nine have yet to take decisions. If all of those nine independents announce to join PTI, the number will scale up to 170, still short of two votes to get a simple majority.

To gain a simple majority, the PTI has also initiated talks with Balochistan National Party (BNP) that has won three seats. According to a statement, senior PTI leader Jahangir Khan Tareen on Monday telephoned Akhtar Mengal and invited him to join the coalition government.

“Mengal has promised that he will hold talks with PTI leadership in the coming days,” reads the statement.

Doesn't matter if PTI is unable to achieve the 172 Mark, as 168 is good enough already, lol...

Plz read the following as posted by myself in another thread:

As discussed earlier between @Verve @PakSword and myself... Kashif Abbasi and Aitezaz Ahsan further solved the PM CM election riddle for me...

First the National Assembly:

(There are a total of 342 seats in the National Assembly. Of these, 272 are filled by direct elections. In addition, the PakistaniConstitution reserves 10seats for religious minorities and 60 seats for women, to be filled by proportional representation among parties with more than 5% of the vote.)

First of all... Multiple seats only count in deciding Women and Minority seats.

For PM CM election, Every member counts as one.

Women and minority seats are allotted to Major Parties as per total number of seats won including Multiple seats.

In PM election...172 is the required number set by constitution to be reached by any one PM Candidate in National Assembly in First POLL...

If in the first poll no PM Candidate achieves the number of 172 then there is going to be another poll among the two highest vote getters of the first poll.

This Second Poll will be for simple majority of votes among all the members of assembly present in the house.

For Example:
IF in the first poll X gets only 158 votes and Y gets 145 votes Z gets 10 votes...then all candidates fall short of 172 Mark.
Then there will be another poll between X and Y for simple majority so if X still gets 158 votes against Y's 155 then X becomes PM.


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The same rules apply for Provincial Assembly's CM election with the only obvious difference being the number of votes required in the first poll.

IF first poll does not produce required number, the Second Poll is held between two candidates who got the highest votes from all voting members, The candidate who gets simple majority's votes Wins.



P.S. Kindly also note that JI has already announced to sit in opposition and let IK make his Government in the center. This
 
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"Dawn News" :laugh:
Chaley gi bhi aur Perform bhi karey gi InshAllah aur next election mei sweep bhi karey gi InshAllah. Ap apne Shishey ke khwab apne paas hi rakhen sahib and keep reading Yawn(Dawn) and Jang.
Lols mien b yahan houn aor app contact mien rehna, I am 100% sure about my prediction.

To all PTI member....App jo tareek rahoun mien maray gey...Tere hontoun ki laali ki chahat mien...daar ki khushak tehni per waray gey...app jo tareek rahoun mien maray gey.
 
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Lols mien b yahan houn aor app contact mien rehna, I am 100% sure about my prediction.

To all PTI member....App jo tareek rahoun mien maray gey...Tere hontoun ki laali ki chahat mien...daar ki khushak tehni per waray gey...app jo tareek rahoun mien maray gey.
Wesey itne yaqeen se to Siwaey Creator ke aur koi bhi nai keh sakta jesey aap lagey huey ho BTW i dont believe in conspiracy theories.
In my Opinion Conclusions of Arguments should be based on apparent logic not deep hidden Conspiracy and i know better stuff. PPP Got chance, they didn't performed they were kicked out. Same happened to Nawaz League. Now its PTI Turn. Simple Logic no conspiracies. So far the response they got from KPK and outlook of the party is evident as day light.
People not fools who will keep suffering and keep voting for the same party. Slowly but steadily the Anger and dissent will come out and only way they can is vote.
Mei shart wart nai lagata i believe what i actually see. InshAllah ye trend aese hi rahey jo perform na karey wo next election mei bahir. And we have high Hopes from Imran Khan Led Government.
Baqi ye baten ke Establishment kara rai, Amrika Kara Raha, Sab kuch engineered hai ye raam kahanian to bachpan se sun rahey. Agar ap us pe baat kar rahey ho to i cant argue.
Zameen Flat hai, Suraj Zameen ke Gird Ghumta hai, Sab Hukmaran Lizardmen hain because i say so, kahani khatam.

On a lighter note bhai. Dawn na hi parha karen wesey
 
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