PTA bans official Ahmadi website: Report

[Bratva]

Isn't it correct that the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community believes that God sent Ahmad, like Jesus, to end religious wars, condemn bloodshed and reinstitute morality, justice and peace? They believe that he divested Islam of fanatical beliefs and practices by championing what is in their view, Islam’s true and essential teachings as practiced by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) himself.

So if they're propagating Islam’s true and essential teachings as practiced by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), then what's the reason for not allowed them to propagate their religious views publicly? They are not denigrating Islam in any way, are they?

Further, Ahmad was a Mujaddid (Islamic Reformer) of the 19th century. He is referred to as a 'prophet' in the metaphorical sense only (as other recognized Islamic saints and Sufis are similarly referred to), not a prophet in the technical meaning of the word.

So why are Ahmadis not considered a sect of Islam?

Do excuse a Hindu for his ignorance!!

that's where you are wrong. If he was a reformer, all religious wars should have been stopped, morality,justice equality would be the trade mark of mother earth now but what happen? Nothing. Here goes his false claim number one he is a Reformer. Since you don't know the what kind of reformer All muslims believe in. This is the first reformer of Islam and every reformer are only human beings and none of them is given prophet status .

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Now the flaw in argument. As you said Like Jesus, This is second major conflict we have with Ahmaddiya, they consider their Leader Jesus and on the basis of this he was labeled prophet.

Third flaw. Ahmaddiya Islamic beliefs and teachings are way off the mark. What Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) taught us to do and what Ahmadis practice is totally different. Their prayers, Their fasting and other teachings are totally different of what all majority Muslims follow. So they corrupted the teachings of Islam instead of purifying them.

Last flaw in the argument. No, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad didn't said prophet in metaphorical sense, and the proof is whatever the book written by him or by his followers, they all refered to him in technical sense not in metaphorical sense. Mirza Ghulam claimed Jesus soul has overtaken him and he will purify the whole world and since Jesus is inside him so he is prophet. that's where the conflict started!

And your last paragraph. They changed their stance and start claiming mriza ghulam ahmad as Reformer once they were declard non muslims in Pakistan. Before that they always use to claim as Prophet.

 

[funtoosh]

Yes yes...look who is giving lecture, the country (India) where Miniorities has how many rights everybody knows....where Mosques are destoryed (Babari Mosque) by Exterim Hindus and they are making Exterim groups just to kill minorities........where 2 Thousand Muslims are killed (Gujjrat) where even Wife is still buried alive if her husband dies........where Barhman and Shodar can't eat at same table although they belongs to same beleives....... Where muslims are killed because they cut the cow.............i think this is enough to stop you from more trolling.

you are saying lies my friend..
babri masjid was not a mosque.
2000 muslims was never killed. .

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

these ahmadis consider an indian to be their prophet.

enough said.

 

[funtoosh]

these ahmadis consider an indian to be their prophet.

enough said.

who is indian? i thought qaidian is in pak

 

[Dr. NooB NinjA]

these ahmadis consider an indian to be their prophet.

enough said.

And there goes the notion that Pakistanis treat their minorities equally..!!
If you treat your fellow muslims in this way, we can very well imagine the plight of the Pakistani Hindus..!!
Enough said..!!!

 

[hankau62]

Its just a website... Make another one... if that too gets banned then make another one and continue.

or

Use a proxy or a TOR Browser.

 

[ANG]

this is a country who couldnt respect its only Nobel proze winner, but showers petals on a 2-bit murederer.

Hi Mr. Funtoosh, this article should sum up lack of justice against religious murderers in Pakistan... No need to say any more.


Ahmadi massacre: HRW urges govt to bring culprits to justice – The Express Tribune


Ahmadi massacre: HRW urges govt to bring culprits to justice
Human Rights Watch outlin*es intens*ified campai*gn agains*t the minori*ty.
By News Desk
Published: May 28, 2012

Exactly two years after the attacks on Ahmaddiya places of worship that killed 94 worshippers in Lahore and injured over 100 others, New York-based group Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a fresh reminder to Pakistan’s government to bring the perpetrators of the crime to justice.

A report published by the human rights group quotes HRW’s Asia Director Brad Adams saying: “It’s obscene that two years after the worst massacre in Lahore since the partition of India, the government has still not brought the suspects apprehended at the scene to trial. By pandering to extremists who foment violence against Ahmadis, the government emboldens militants … and reinforces fear and insecurity for all religious minorities.”

The report goes on to outline that the hate campaign against the minority community has intensified since then. In June 2011, a pamphlet named some 50 prominent Ahmadis in Faisalabad and declared them “liable to be killed”, along with all members of the community. In September 2011, one of those named in the pamphlet was killed. At least five other Ahmadis were killed in 2011. In December, criminals vandalised 29 graves in a cemetery belonging to the Ahmadi community in Lodhran, Punjab.

HRW points out that this hate campaign continued into 2012, when religious groups in Lahore used section 295 and 298 of the Pakistan Penal Code to force the demolition of sections of an Ahmadiyya place of worship on the grounds that its dome made it look like a mosque. In Rawalpindi, the authorities barred Ahmadis from using their place of worship at the insistence of local religious groups, according to HRW.

“The Punjab provincial government should be providing extra security to Ahmadiyya places of worship instead of siding with those terrorising worshippers,” Adams said. “Pakistan’s anti-Ahmadi laws need to be repealed, not enforced.”

“The government’s continued use of discriminatory criminal laws against Ahmadis and other religious minorities is indefensible,” Adams said. “As long as such laws remain on the books, the Pakistani state will be seen as a persecutor of minorities and an enabler of abuses.”

During the attack on May 28 2010, worshippers overpowered two attackers and turned them over to police. Proceedings in the case, however, have been repeatedly adjourned. Tehreek-e-Taliban’s affiliate, the Punjabi Taliban, claimed responsibility for the attack.
Published in The Express Tribune, May 28th, 2012.

 

[funtoosh]

Hi Mr. Funtoosh, this article should sum up lack of justice against religious murderers in Pakistan... No need to say any more.


Ahmadi massacre: HRW urges govt to bring culprits to justice – The Express Tribune


Ahmadi massacre: HRW urges govt to bring culprits to justice
Human Rights Watch outlin*es intens*ified campai*gn agains*t the minori*ty.
By News Desk
Published: May 28, 2012

Exactly two years after the attacks on Ahmaddiya places of worship that killed 94 worshippers in Lahore and injured over 100 others, New York-based group Human Rights Watch (HRW) issued a fresh reminder to Pakistan’s government to bring the perpetrators of the crime to justice.

A report published by the human rights group quotes HRW’s Asia Director Brad Adams saying: “It’s obscene that two years after the worst massacre in Lahore since the partition of India, the government has still not brought the suspects apprehended at the scene to trial. By pandering to extremists who foment violence against Ahmadis, the government emboldens militants … and reinforces fear and insecurity for all religious minorities.”

The report goes on to outline that the hate campaign against the minority community has intensified since then. In June 2011, a pamphlet named some 50 prominent Ahmadis in Faisalabad and declared them “liable to be killed”, along with all members of the community. In September 2011, one of those named in the pamphlet was killed. At least five other Ahmadis were killed in 2011. In December, criminals vandalised 29 graves in a cemetery belonging to the Ahmadi community in Lodhran, Punjab.

HRW points out that this hate campaign continued into 2012, when religious groups in Lahore used section 295 and 298 of the Pakistan Penal Code to force the demolition of sections of an Ahmadiyya place of worship on the grounds that its dome made it look like a mosque. In Rawalpindi, the authorities barred Ahmadis from using their place of worship at the insistence of local religious groups, according to HRW.

“The Punjab provincial government should be providing extra security to Ahmadiyya places of worship instead of siding with those terrorising worshippers,” Adams said. “Pakistan’s anti-Ahmadi laws need to be repealed, not enforced.”

“The government’s continued use of discriminatory criminal laws against Ahmadis and other religious minorities is indefensible,” Adams said. “As long as such laws remain on the books, the Pakistani state will be seen as a persecutor of minorities and an enabler of abuses.”

During the attack on May 28 2010, worshippers overpowered two attackers and turned them over to police. Proceedings in the case, however, have been repeatedly adjourned. Tehreek-e-Taliban’s affiliate, the Punjabi Taliban, claimed responsibility for the attack.
Published in The Express Tribune, May 28th, 2012.

thank you.. similarly all the culprits of both godhra train burning and gujarat rioters have been brought to justice or in the process of.

 

[ice_man]

In Quran; Mohammad was announced as the last prophet to be sent from God. This gives no way to any man for claiming to be a prophet.
False Prophets in Islamic History.

Who Was the Impostor of Qadian?


Ahmedia ARE NOT MUSLIMS PERIOD! BUT they are PAKISTANIS! and as Pakistanis they deserve to live here as much as any other person.

 

[Uchiha]

Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP)

I don't hink I've heard their name before, butfrom what I skimmed through the site, their non-Violent and completely right. Even though I'm very liberal at times, if any scum like you insults the Sahaba in front of me I cant guarantee your joints will be in the same location as before

in that case you should check the hate and abuse the muslims made on hindus.. even your prophet abused and broke the idols of pagan religions. so should the whole world be your enemy?

You must be stupid. You don't know anything about history beyond the few lines. You have no idea of jahiliyah customs.
The angel of the mountains asked the prophetSAW that he he should crush Taif(the city between two mounts) because they hurt him, but our kind prophetSAW chose to let them live.
These "pagan religions" you're defending considered your kind(anyone dark skinned, no offence) as slaves.

 

[W.11]

@ safriz

If you can't tolerate minorities at home, you shouldn't be cribbing about 'maltreatment' of Pakistani origin Muslims abroad.

allow beef to the muslims, than talk about treatment to minorities

 

[Rusty]

I don't hink I've heard their name before, butfrom what I skimmed through the site, their non-Violent and completely right. Even though I'm very liberal at times, if any scum like you insults the Sahaba in front of me I cant guarantee your joints will be in the same location as before


You must be stupid. You don't know anything about history beyond the few lines. You have no idea of jahiliyah customs.
The angel of the mountains asked the prophetSAW that he he should crush Taif(the city between two mounts) because they hurt him, but our kind prophetSAW chose to let them live.
These "pagan religions" you're defending considered your kind(anyone dark skinned, no offence) as slaves.

Also these same pages practiced the barbaric act of female infanticide.
Well, that explains why these Indians love to defend the pagans of Arabia so much.

 

[foxbat]

allow beef to the muslims, than talk about treatment to minorities

you do that with liquor first

 

[W.11]

you do that with liquor first

minorities in pakistan are allowed liquor

 

[Uchiha]

Also these same pages practiced the barbaric act of female infanticide.
Well, that explains why these Indians love to defend the pagans of Arabia so much.

pwnage!!!!!