Protesters attempt burning copies of Holy Quran on French island

[Djinn]

You come to our countries,most of you don't respect our secular values,you want to impose your whatever "values" and you come to cry about we are anti muslims ?
Respect the natives,their history,their values,their country,then we would have the same respect toward you. Do not expect respect if you don't respect others.
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Exactly don't destroy their countries and they wont come to yours. Secondly those people are French too, why do you think that Non-Muslims should have more rights than Muslims. Also explain how were the people of Corsica defying French values and laws? Instead of condemning the violence against French Muslims you come up with petty excuses to justify the wrong doings.

 

[Vergennes]

Exactly don't destroy their countries and they wont come to yours. Secondly those people are French too, why do you think that Non-Muslims should have more rights than Muslims. Also explain how were the people of Corsica defying French values and laws? Instead of condemning the violence against French Muslims you come up with petty excuses to justify the wrong doings.

When you call firefighters to your neighborhood and then attack them at ~60s with any kind of weapons (And also insulting the people of Corsica),you can expect people to be angry,and then do acts like they did against a prayer hall. (Who,BTW,was illegal,because they occupied a hall for religion purposes.)
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If i enter a public place,showing my neclace where there's cross on it,someone will come to tell me to hide it,or to remove it. Same goes for a Jewish wearing a Kippa or a muslim wearing a veil that hide the face. The French state sees no "Religion is above the other's" or "This religion is so bad,so we will make laws against them".
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You conform to it,or leave it.
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What don't you understand in secular ? France isn't named "The Christian Republic of France",it is called "French Republic." (République Française).
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Your religion is a personal thing,nobody gives a sh*t,don't show it in public,don't make others to "accomodate" to your beliefs.
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And THEN you'll live peacefully,everyone i'd say.

 

[koolio]

Have the perpetrators been caught on both sides, The attacks on firefighters is condemn-able so is the attack on Islamic worship, The french need to get their act and start prosecuting those responsible.

 

[Djinn]

When you call firefighters to your neighborhood and then attack them at ~60s with any kind of weapons,you can expect people to be angry,and then do acts like they did against a prayer hall. (Who,BTW,was illegal,because they occupied a hall for religion purposes.)
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If i enter a public place,showing my neclace where there's cross on it,someone will come to tell me to hide it,or to remove it. Same goes for a Jewish wearing a Kippa or a muslim wearing a veil that hide the face. The French state sees no "Religion is above the other's" or "This religion is so bad,so we will make laws against them".
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You conform to it,or leave it.
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What don't you understand in secular ? France isn't named "The Christian Republic of France",it is called "French Republic." (République Française).
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Your religion is a personal thing,nobody gives a sh*t,don't show it in public,don't make others to "accomodate" to your beliefs.
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And THEN you'll live peacefully,everyone i'd say.

You have failed to address my previous question. What did the Muslim community of Corsica do to be victimized like that? One Muslim isn't responsible for the actions of an other. If you are going to profile millions of Muslims as trouble makers because of the actions of few then don't whine when the procedure is applied to you. Fair enough, NO?
As for the firefighters part, they are part of state machinery and since the state clearly chose to turn a blind eye to Islamophobic violence, people violently rioted.
You have erected this huge tirade about France being secular, still you haven't replied what did the Muslim community of Corsica do wrong?
It doesn't matter what France is called, the majority is Christian and people will see it as it is.

 

[gslv mk3]

It doesn't matter what France is called, the majority is Christian and people will see it as it is

A slight modification.It doesn't matter if France is a secular nation,the majority is Christian and Islamists will see it as a christian nation.

 

[Vergennes]

A slight modification.It doesn't matter if France is a secular nation,the majority is Christian and Islamists will see it as a christian nation.

Religious zealots hate France so much.... they are jealous.....they can bark as much as they want,but the caravane moves on,right ?

As for the firefighters part, they are part of state machinery and since the state clearly chose to turn a blind eye to Islamophobic violence, people violently rioted.

No need to loose my time anymore.

 

[Djinn]

A slight modification.It doesn't matter if France is a secular nation,the majority is Christian and Islamists will see it as a christian nation.

Yes the same way Non-Muslims lump all Muslims with terrorists.

No need to loose my time anymore.

That's the best you can say when you run out of logic.

 

[gslv mk3]

Yes the same way Non-Muslims lump all Muslims with terrorists.

No sane Non-Muslims would lump all Muslims with terrorists.Stop playing the victim card,every time.

 

[Djinn]

Religious zealots hate France so much.... they are jealous.....they can bark as much as they want,but the caravane moves on,right ?

There are French Muslims too. They are as much French as you are, you can't see that because you are Islamophobic.

No sane Non-Muslims would lump all Muslims with terrorists.Stop playing the victim card,every time.

Then describe to me why the Corsica community deserve this and why are you jumping if you are part of the "sane crowd"? Quit using your hatred for Muslims as an excuse to justify the wrong.

 

[flamer84]

There are French Muslims too. They are as much French as you are, you can't see that because you are Islamophobic.

No,they are not,because they see themselves as Muslim first and than French.They do not wish to integrate.

Then describe to me why the Corsica community deserve this and why are you jumping if you are part of the "sane crowd"? Quit using your hatred for Muslims as an excuse to justify the wrong.

There is a problem in French society.That problem causes people to be murdered in the streets in the name of a religion,that problem causes firemen and policemen attacked when entering neighborhoods populated by the members of a certain religion,that problem causes people who adhere to a certain religion to put their laws above the ones of the French Republic,that problem causes members of a certain religion which are French only in name (by papers") to outright booo the National Anthem when France plays with Algeria/Morrocco/Tunisia.

Do not ask the French to solve that problem,ask the members of the community who adheres to a certain religion to solve its own radicalisation problem.People have had enough and it's only natural to react like this,kindness has been mistaken for weakness in Europe.The guests think they're the owners of the house they've been received in,it's time to be shown the error of their actions.

 

[Djinn]

No,they are not,because they see themselves as Muslim first and than French.They do not wish to integrate.



There is a problem in French society.That problem causes people to be murdered in the streets in the name of a religion,that problem causes firemen and policemen attacked when entering neighborhoods populated by the members of a certain religion,that problem causes people who adhere to a certain religion to put their laws above the ones of the French Republic,that problem causes members of a certain religion which are French only in name (by papers") to outright booo the National Anthem when France plays with Algeria/Morrocco/Tunisia.

Do not ask the French to solve that problem,ask the members of the community who adheres to a certain religion to solve its own radicalisation problem.People have had enough and it's only natural to react like this,kindness has been mistaken for weakness in Europe.The guests think they're the owners of the house they've been received in,it's time to be shown the error of their actions.

"That problem" is only in the eyes of Islamaphobes. Your incoherent rants about Muslims still don't explain why the Corsica community deserved that? Islamophobes have had enough of what and with whom?
These people are French nationals, its part of the government duty to protect them and their property. Funny how the French government doesn't want to protect it's Muslim citizens but want to protect them in Libya, Syria and elsewhere in the Arab world. People in Corsica were not guests they were French nationals, you islamophobes can't understand the simple point that Muslims are French Nationals too.

 

[flamer84]

"That problem" is only in the eyes of Islamaphobes. Your incoherent rants about Muslims still don't explain why the Corsica community deserved that? Islamophobes have had enough of what and with whom?
These people are French nationals, its part of the government duty to protect them and their property. Funny how the French government doesn't want to protect it's Muslim citizens but want to protect them in Libya, Syria and elsewhere in the Arab world. People in Corsica were not guests they were French nationals, you islamophobes can't understand the simple point that Muslims are French Nationals too.

They will be French when they will act as one.Even the title of this thread shows us the non secular mentality of most Muslims " burnt the Holy Quran"....what does that mean ? In reality,people burned some books in an illegal set up worshiping place.You did read that it was illegal,no ? French citizens took action against an illegal place of worship and burned some books.

 

[Djinn]

They will be French when they will act as one.Even the title of this thread shows us the non secular mentality of most Muslims " burnt the Holy Quran"....what does that mean ? In reality,people burned some books in an illegal set up worshiping place.You did read that it was illegal,no ? French citizens took action against an illegal place of worship and burned some books.

Sorry to say but you have no authority to declare 'Who is French and who is not'. Simple!!!!
Secondly in a civilized state, people don't take law into their own hands. If one community will, then the other will reciprocate. Then don't cry foul and blame an entire religion because the other religion will be counter blamed and you wont like that .

 

[flamer84]

Sorry to say but you have no authority to declare 'Who is French and who is not'. Simple!!!!
Secondly in a civilized state, people don't take law into their own hands. If one community will, then the other will reciprocate. Then don't cry foul and blame an entire religion because the other religion will be counter blamed and you wont like that .

Now,now,don't be upset,this is only a natural counterreaction on part of the French people.Secondly,why must the state protect people who spit on its institutions and utterly hate it ? The time when a particular community hides behind the state it doesn't respect or even recognise only when it suits it,is coming to an end.

 

[Djinn]

Now,now,don't be upset,this is only a natural counterreaction on part of the French people.Secondly,why must the state protect people who spit on its institutions and utterly hate it ? The time when a particular community hides behind the state it doesn't respect or even recognise only when it suits it,is coming to an end.

What you are not getting is: Some non-Muslim extremists probably future terrorists attacked Muslims and their property, who also happened to be French citizens. You can give gazillion petty excuses, but those Muslims remain French citizens and should be protected by the French laws, the state failed to protect them & even failed to penalize the perpetrators, hence the victims reacted violently, which is wrong but understandable.