Progression of Chinese Pop over the years: Jacky Cheung

[somsak]

This is my most favorite HK movie.

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Its so funny that I laugh so much.

 

[Aepsilons]

Agree, Hong kong made some fabulous movies and entertainment during the old days. I used to be fond of their kung fu musics when i was a young boy back in the days. They really revolutionised Chinese entertaiment/culture worldwide. Strange that the mainland never had such a great movie industry/entertainment.

As for music, i have never listened to a chinese music(much less pop one.lol).

Hong Kong was the "Hollywood" of the East. It was because of Hong Kong movies that there was such an strong obsession of Chinese culture and Chinese martial arts in Japan during the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and into the 90s. They set the trends also , and were probably at par or even greater than Tokyo and Seoul in those times. I still think so to an extent now. Its just that films and music has diversified now from Hong Kong based to mainland based now. Tho one can easily identify Hong Kong songs because of the romance ballad style. And i love that because that's kinda my favorite. LOL.

Am a big, big, big romance ballad type of guy; Chinese pop usually have good selection of romance ballads.

@mike2000 is back @Tractor ---- THIS is what I'm talking about, guys.....

They have. Check out @TaiShang 's thread about Chinese movies breaking box office.
Enter theDragon was a co-production with Golden Harvest and Hollywood.

Very family oriented, too. I guess it reflects conservative values still are strong in China. Which is a very good thing.

 

[mike2000 is back]

They have. Check out @TaiShang 's thread about Chinese movies breaking box office.
Enter theDragon was a co-production with Golden Harvest and Hollywood.

Maybe, but mainly in mainland China. Mainland movies/entertainment industry rarely have the worldwide impact/influence Hong Kong movies/entertainment industry had worldwide back then. only k-pop even comes close to hong kongs elsewhile world movie fame/popularity.

 

[Place Of Space]

Yes, but not entirely. It was actually the first Chinese martial arts film to have been produced by a major Hollywood studio. It was also produced in cooperation with bruce lees hong kong studio. The film was msinly set in hong kong. And lee was the main director/producer/writer. he was indeeed a legend



Agree, for example enter the dragon was made with a budget of just 800,000 dollars. But it was a great movie. In fact one of the greatest martial arts movies of all times. those were the golden days of hong kong chibese movies which dominated the world then.

Question is how come the motherland(mainland) hasnt been able to produce such great movies and create such a captivating entertainment industry ? I will think that giving its size it would have done better than even hong kong.

Hongkong martial arts movies lack soul, we haven't found soul of Chinese culture from it. Just some small fellow fight with the muscle men, and beat them, what hell of the movie!
The Great Wall is the longest; the Grand Canal is the longest; the scale of First Emperor's Mausoleum is the hugest; the Forbidden city is one of the hugest palace; the tallest Buddha; the Taoism temple on mountain peak...hey Han culture pursue the greatness, grandness. lol

 

[Aepsilons]

The Great Wall is the longest; the Grand Canal is the longest; the scale of First Emperor's Mausoleum is the hugest; the Forbidden city is one of the hugest palace; the tallest Buddha; the Taoism temple on mountain peak...hey Han culture pursue the greatness, grandness. lol

And Chinese people have every right to be proud of their collective civilizational accomplishments. I suppose what Mike was trying to say is that Hong Kong films tried to illustrate that majesty of Chinese culture in films; perhaps it didn't portray it completely, perhaps it did, but in the end, its up to the viewers to appraise. Secondarily, the fact that they HK film and music made headway and promoted Chinese culture as early as the 1960s, 1970s and actually influenced the Martial Arts Genre is something we all can agree to. So indirectly, HK promoted Chinese culture in the West and the rest of the world. Afterall I believe everyone knows and associates this with China due to old films:

1. Jackie Chan
2. Bruce Lee

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hong Kong was the "Hollywood" of the East. It was because of Hong Kong movies that there was such an strong obsession of Chinese culture and Chinese martial arts in Japan during the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and into the 90s. They set the trends also , and were probably at par or even greater than Tokyo and Seoul in those times. I still think so to an extent now. Its just that films and music has diversified now from Hong Kong based to mainland based now. Tho one can easily identify Hong Kong songs because of the romance ballad style. And i love that because that's kinda my favorite. LOL.

Am a big, big, big romance ballad type of guy; Chinese pop usually have good selection of romance ballads.

@mike2000 is back @Tractor ---- THIS is what I'm talking about, guys.....

Very family oriented, too. I guess it reflects conservative values still are strong in China. Which is a very good thing.

Loool saying Hong Kong set the trend and was even at par OR even greater than Seoul/Tokyo with all due respect is an understatement my friend . HongKong movies were as popular (if not more popular) than hollywood movies back in the days. I along with my friends basically grew up watching these movies , it was so popular in the west and even in Africa when i often visited the countries there in the 90s , every video club there were full of hong kong martial arts movies and kids will be mimicking bruce lee(i did as well.lol). Seoul and Tokyo back then didnt even come close at all(cant even remember which movies i watch that was korean or japanese back then at all.lol) Hong kong back then had no competition in Asia.

I still remember those movies like it was yesterday. Loved the fighting scenes and set up.

 

[Aepsilons]

Loool saying Hong Kong set the trend and was even at par or even greater than Seoul/Tokyo with all dye respect is an understatement my friend . HongKong movies were aa popular (if not more popular) than hollywood movies back in the days. I along with my friends basically grew up watching these movies , it was so popular in rge west and even in Africa when i often visited the countries there in the 90s , every video club there were full of hong kong martial arts movies and kids will be mimicking bruce lee(i did as well.lol). Seoul and Tokyo back then didnt even come close at all. Hong kong back then had no competition in Asia.

I still remember those movies like it was yesterday. Loved the fighting scenes and set up.

You're absolutely right, @mike2000 is back , absolutely right. I guess i was lacking judgment in my analysis. Tho Japan was introducing the Samurai Genre to films as early as the 1950s, and heck even Akira Kurosawa's classic "Seven Samurai" was recreated in the US as 'The Magnificent Seven' starring Yul Brynner. However, Japanese movie genres at the time only made a minor dent in the world stage when it comes to martial arts genre, the Hong Kong Film Industry really revotionized it and mega-stars like the legend Bruce Lee really projected Chinese culture, Chinese martial arts, China and Chinese to the world at large; not just the west.

In fact, lol, in Japan , one actor tried to recreate the 'Bruce Lee' appeal later on but in the Japanese context. I think you may have heard of him before? Perhaps? Perhaps not? His name is Sonny Chiba 千葉 真.

SO TOTALLY copying Bruce Lee...

Anyways, yes, Hong Kong Film Industry revolutionized the Martial Arts Film Genre. Pretty much everyone just built onto it.

 

[Indos]

 

[jhungary]

And Chinese people have every right to be proud of their collective civilizational accomplishments. I suppose what Mike was trying to say is that Hong Kong films tried to illustrate that majesty of Chinese culture in films; perhaps it didn't portray it completely, perhaps it did, but in the end, its up to the viewers to appraise. Secondarily, the fact that they HK film and music made headway and promoted Chinese culture as early as the 1960s, 1970s and actually influenced the Martial Arts Genre is something we all can agree to. So indirectly, HK promoted Chinese culture in the West and the rest of the world. Afterall I believe everyone knows and associates this with China due to old films:

1. Jackie Chan
2. Bruce Lee

lol, grow up in Hong Kong during 80s and 90s, CantonPop is all I listen to.

My favorite is Andy Lau, Jackie Cheung and Alan Tam (A bit old I know)

And back then, the song are real good, I don't like the movie tho.

Try some of this

吻别 - Jacie Cheung , later remake by Danish Pop Band into Take me to your heart

He sometime sang in English too

Andy Lau have this song

and this with 2 other Taiwanese dude - Quite funny lyric if you can understand mandarin

Good time

 

[Aepsilons]

Chow Yun Fat's greatest film. And this film really introduced Zhang Ziyi to the world stage here; i think her beauty captivated the world at large to the Chinese...

I remember watching this film for the first time with my high school buddies and everyone , i mean everyone of my guy friends were going goo goo and ga ga for Zhang Ziyi. She set the bar for Chinese woman, i suppose...

lol, grow up in Hong Kong during 80s and 90s, CantonPop is all I listen to.

My favorite is Andy Lau, Jackie Cheung and Alan Tam (A bit old I know)

And back then, the song are real good, I don't like the movie tho.

Try some of this

吻别 - Jacie Cheung , later remake by Danish Pop Band into Take me to your heart

He sometime sang in English too

Andy Lau have this song

and this with 2 other Taiwanese dude - Quite funny lyric if you can understand mandarin

Good time

Got any more Cantonese pop song recommendations? Oh yea, Andy Lau is good...haha. One other singer that was popular back in the early 2000s was Coco Lee. Remember her?

 

[Place Of Space]

And Chinese people have every right to be proud of their collective civilizational accomplishments. I suppose what Mike was trying to say is that Hong Kong films tried to illustrate that majesty of Chinese culture in films; perhaps it didn't portray it completely, perhaps it did, but in the end, its up to the viewers to appraise. Secondarily, the fact that they HK film and music made headway and promoted Chinese culture as early as the 1960s, 1970s and actually influenced the Martial Arts Genre is something we all can agree to. So indirectly, HK promoted Chinese culture in the West and the rest of the world. Afterall I believe everyone knows and associates this with China due to old films:

1. Jackie Chan
2. Bruce Lee

But the damn martial arts was in corner of Chinese culture. Even nowadays, after the so called martial art movie hot, will parents send their children to practice martial? nonono, martial art in China is overrated by those movies, and foreigners.

Chow Yun Fat's greatest film. And this film really introduced Zhang Ziyi to the world stage here; i think her beauty captivated the world at large to the Chinese...

I remember watching this film for the first time with my high school buddies and everyone , i mean everyone of my guy friends were going goo goo and ga ga for Zhang Ziyi. She set the bar for Chinese woman, i suppose...




Got any more Cantonese pop song recommendations? Oh yea, Andy Lau is good...haha. One other singer that was popular back in the early 2000s was Coco Lee. Remember her?

This is not martial art movie.

 

[Jlaw]

But the damn martial arts was in corner of Chinese culture. Even nowadays, after the so called martial art movie hot, will parents send their children to practice martial? nonono, martial art in China is overrated by those movies, and foreigners.



This is not martial art movie.

What is it? Wushu?

 

[Aepsilons]

But the damn martial arts was in corner of Chinese culture. Even nowadays, after the so called martial art movie hot, will parents send their children to practice martial? nonono, martial art in China is overrated by those movies, and foreigners.

Yes, of course it is only a corner of Chinese culture. But it is credit to Chinese culture, man. The fact that foreigners from around the world admire so much, and are fascinated about the Chinese culture. Its a credit to China's Cultural History, i suppose. So take it as a compliment, so much to learn from Chinese culture, i suppose.

You see, sans politics , China truly is captivating for all people. I suppose that's one of the reasons why Japan and Korea were drawn into the Sino sphere culture some 2000 years ago and adopted much of what was Chinese cultural legacy into our own.

Something we all have to admire, consider.

 

[jhungary]

Chow Yun Fat's greatest film. And this film really introduced Zhang Ziyi to the world stage here; i think her beauty captivated the world at large to the Chinese...

I remember watching this film for the first time with my high school buddies and everyone , i mean everyone of my guy friends were going goo goo and ga ga for Zhang Ziyi. She set the bar for Chinese woman, i suppose...




Got any more Cantonese pop song recommendations? Oh yea, Andy Lau is good...haha. One other singer that was popular back in the early 2000s was Coco Lee. Remember her?

dont like 李玟 much

and i met Chow Yun Fat once in Yau Ma Tei. I took apicture with him lol damn that man is tall

 

[Aepsilons]

This is not martial art movie.

Hahaha, my Chinese friends here at where i live are always over-critical of this movie. I suppose one of the reasons why this movie is so successful is because the director Lee Ang --- selected the film score, music , with drama and impressive special effects (at the time). It was a masterful piece, imho.