Problems for India's Modi Balochistan rant leaves Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan Uneasy

[Asian.Century]

Great Reply of a Pakistani Baluch patriot to an Indian

Source: https://defence.pk/#ixzz4Hojxip3J

Dear Ambassador,

Curtsy Lt Gen Asad Durrani, I seem to have got your address. I am therefore addressing you directly. In case you have not got my earlier comments on your Blog, through some other source, I hope you can go through them here under.I wrote those comments in a hurry as I was pressed for time, but I think I owe it to you to explain at some length this so called 'Baluchistan' and the so called 'Baloch-Tigers'. Iffor no reason, just to put the enemy-countries' propaganda against Pakistan inperspective. Besides, I learn so much from your Blogs, perhaps I owe it to you and should explain.Let me start by saying that some of my very best childhood friends are Baloch, Brahuiand Kurds, even Hindus who are still present in large number in this province.Incidentally, Baluchistan's Chairman Public Service Commission, is a Hindu Mr.Basheshernath Kohli, who is a very respected gentleman for his integrity andcompetence. Pakistan has had a long line of Baloch Presidents, PMs, Governors/CMsinspite of their small population; Farooq Leghari, Zardari, Jamali, Sherbaz Mazari,Khosas and so on. There is no witch hunting of Baloch and no one thinks less of theBaloch who are at least 10-14 m in Punjab and about 8-10 m in Sindh, while inBaluchistan, racially they are barely about 3 m.Now, within Balochistan, about 33% of area having Pashtuns, and lying some what within the monsoon rang's productive land, and adjoining Afghanistan are all peaceful,more affluent people. They are patriotic and have been living next to the Baloch/Brahuitribes in the south, peacefully, even when the Baloch/Brahui were tributaries to the Amirof Kandahar/Kabul ever since 1757. These Pashtuns are die hard Pakistanis and one hardly ever finds a Baloch/Brahui present in these areas.

From Sibi to Jacobabad, some 90 miles of plain, surrounded on both east and west sidesby Bambore and Kirther Ranges with 40-60 miles width is inhabited by Khosas, Jamalis,Magsi, Rinds, Kurds and Dombkis, all are peaceful and patriotic. Quetta-Noshki-Dalbandin-Tftan Iran, about 400 miles long is a barren strip of land wide by 100-200miles but very sparsely populated. All are patriotic Brahuis/Baloch, some Pashtuns alsolive there but occasionally a militants shows up disturbing peace. Especially, from southof Helmand Baloch/Brahui militants are pushed in across Durand Line after training bythe RAW and CIA/NDS in Afghanistan. 10 miles north of Chaman, close to Spin Baldak,RAW and CIA also train in two camps called Bugti and Marri Camps. This is a well knownfact. Allegedly, one Indian Brig Aneel is the boss there, who mostly lives in Kandhar.The people of Lasbella, Jamotes, Sindhis basically, living east of Karachi and north of Sonmiani are all peaceful. We have had a CM and a Speaker from this area.Sarawan/Jhalawan are south of Quetta touching Las Bella where due to vast empty spaces and no infrastructure, militants hide. Sanullah Zehri of Jhalawan is now the CMand a patriot. His son and two brothers were killed by militants of Brahmdagh Bugtithree years ago. Obviously, he will fight the 'emerging Baloch Tigers' if he finds them.Let me also briefly describe the demographic profile of Baloch/Brahuis in 'Balochistan'.This is important to understand what a mini scule number is indeed, masquarading as militants and 'Tigers', which the major powers, or let me name them, India, US and mini-power Afghanistan are portraying as mamoths!There are about 12 major Baloch/Brahui tribes living in Balochistan's center and East,with many sub and sub-sub clans, total running in number well over 150. Out of these,only two Baloch sub-tribes Marri and Bugti when their chieftain are not in power, have been sporadically agitating or commiting insurgency. Both of these sub-tribes have about 23-25 clans. Only 2-3 sub-clans in each have been active insurgents, the rest arepeaceful and patriotic. Marri chieftain Chenghez Marri, son of late Khair Bakhsh Marri isan MPA and patriotic. However, his four brothers who had been ministers for years, arein Europe/London post 9/11 under "benign" supervision of CIA/MI6 trying toperpetuate militancy in Balochistan. They have no sympathy with Baloch population which is terribly poor but use them as instruments to destabilise Pakistan.Akbar Bugtis' grandson from elder son Saleem, who is dead, Aali Bugti is now theNawab and under him Qadir Bugti is looking after tribal affairs in Dera Bugti. His son Sarfraz Bugti is the Home Minister of Balochistan. Brahmdagh Bugti son of Akbar Bugti'son daughter, hijacked by RAW/CIA/NDS is in Switzerland trying to run militancy in Bugti areas. He thinks he is doing a great service to the abject poor Bugtis. At least so he
claims. Mines are spread here and there in Bugti area which end up killing innocentchildren, women and villagers, even cows.

So much for the Baloch insurgents, or Tigers! Now the Brahuis; the only Brahui sub-tribealso comprising 3-4 sub-clans around Attaullah Mengal/Akhtar Mengal are busy inmilitancy. Both father and son have been CMs and were loyal Pakistanis as long as theywere in power. Out of power, they become anti-Pakistan!Akhtar, is an MPA even now while his brother Javed is a militant. The last Brahui is a oneman show, the so called Khan-of-Kalat whose grandfather abdicated along with theheads of 425 princely states in 1947/8 as a consequence of the Indian Act of Independence 1947. He is Suleman Daud, willingly hijacked by RAW/CIA and now MI6looks after him in London. He has no following, there are no insurgents to his credit butlives in London in style. MI6 is very benign, it also looks after Altaf Hussain in London. Iam sure you are aware of this character Altaf! What a great country, this United Kingdom. Alas, soon I apprehend it will become Mini Kingdom!The other day when Suleman's wife passed away in Kalat even the Corps Commander went to Kalat to offer condolences. His son Ahmad is also an MPA. His brother Faisal is apatriot and has been a minister.There are sporadic bombings, target killings in Balochistan, yes for sure. Besides Baloch /Brahui, Lasher-a-Jhangvi, Sipah-a-Sahaba, RAW, NDS and a motly crowd, eventribal-feudes also try to kill some for money or even for greater cause of going to heaven in quick time by killing those they feel must not live.Having said that, there is much peace in Balochistan. Not one house is demolished anywhere in Balochistan. Not one man has been blinded by pellets, security forces donot act in anger, thank God. If a militant is killed in an encounter, usualy 2-3 arearrested, rather than being dispatched to settle their affairs in the next world.The legislature of the tribal Balochistan does not want Police. So after a ragtag tribalLevies hired by the tribal chieftains, relic of the 1879 British rule, is brushed aside bymilitants, paramilitary border force, called Frontier Corps comes into play. Pakistan Army, Air Force or Navy have NOT been used at all. Indeed, these forces are doing socialwork of building schools and roads.All the roads from and to Quetta, and the railways are safe. The airports are safe,irritating security checks notwithstanding.

That, dear Ambassador, is what Balochistan is today. If Mr. Modi wants to whip the dead'Baloch Tigers', I am afraid he would have to request the Christ to intervene. Oh yes, Mr.Modi perhaps also does not know that none of these 6-8 Baloch/Brahui "leaders" acceptthe other as the Supremo. They are all gladiators, wanting power only for themselves.They have lingering blood feuds and terrible animosities and will not accept the other as the leader!I know almost all of these handful of 'insurgents' personally. Regrettably, they are caught in the cobweb of the geopolitics and find no way to shake off the chains. The original conflict was that of the political power, which their fathers, grandfathers had lost.What they never realized was that Uncle Sam had moved into strategic void of Afghanistan on the pretext of OBL and would need a perpetual reason to stay on. The old game of Containment was again being played.I am afraid, a day will come, when even the intelligentsia in India will regret facilitating entrenching of America in south of Oxus and north of Karakorum. Abdullah Abdullah and Northern Alliance would then appear a great myopic strategic blunder.

Regards,

 

[idune]

We are only highlighting the human rights,

india do not even treat Kashmiri people and others like dalits, Muslims and even Christians as human, how could india possible understand talk about rights. Besides, Baluchistan people exercised their rights freely and openly and that resoundingly denounced india.

 

[eddie01]

Nobody is fighting against any so called occupation. Proof is that violence sponsored by India is going down and no curfew in any city of Balochistan unlike Kashmir.



It is all because of your occupation. Your occupation of Kashmir is the mother of all ills. Don't blame us for it.

we also can say this about Azad Kashmir and pakistan itself is a sponsor of all terrorist activities and a safe heaven of Let, Jash etc. and hafez saeed is the master mind of kasmir unrest so better not to tell us whom to blame.

Apart from ongoing independent freedom struggles of Sikhs Khalistanis, Kashmiris from occupier India, time to raise, Hyderabad, Junagarh, West Bengal, Moists, Christians, Naxalities struggles also. Pakistan should now break India as its already getting broken since 1947, 1971 etc etc.

Pakistan should go full throttle, India has already committed mass genocide in Kashmir and the Kashmirs are not going to forget that, they will drag Indians into to the lowest portions of a weak, vulnerable, brutal, terror unstable Indian state....until Kashmir becomes a new country. India is on a downward dive, by its own terrible mistakes.

hehehe... India ko to barbad baad me karna pehle khud ko aabad to kar lo. america har din aapke muh pe chappal marta hai uska to kuch kar nahi paye bas hum ye kar denge wo kar denge..

 

[Arsalan]

I have considered you rational in debates here and so let me get this straight! Are you saying that the training camps on your side of the border -- both in Kashmir and elsewhere -- are mere "claims"?

No i am saying that just like this little exchange your focus is on claiming that there are some terrorist camps in Pakistan by point is highlighting the Indian involvement with TTP. We are pointing fingers at each other and as long as we keep doing that there won’t be any improvement. The only way to progress with the relations will be when we start correcting our own mistakes rather than pointing out those of the other. This is simply what I am saying, nothing complex here.

 

[Arsalan]

Do I scatter +ve ratings like confetti?

I've already put my 'money' where my mouth is.

But, unlike you, I see a LOT of hope. Don't you understand? Once people like Oscar and you, and several others on your side, and many people on our side, realise that that this staying stuck to our respective positions is futile, that very moment, there is hope.

Lolz no sir you don't but your sure are generous with the ratings. Most of us are not but i am working to improve on that. Why hold them back really! If we cannot appreciate each other then what is the point of discussions? disagreement alone? I dont think so!

The reason i do not see much hope is quite simple sir. The people who are on this forum are the ones who are comparatively better educated and come from better backgrounds, it is an English language forum and needs internet/computer. I am sure you understand what i am trying to say. The pool of Indian and Pakistani members in no way represent our general public, these are slightly better minds we see here and still..... you do see the general tone of debate/discussion in here, the disagreements and how easily they turn abusive! Now if this is what we are getting from these slightly better than normal minds how can we realistically hope that people are realizing such things and that the situation might improve. I do pray for that to happen, i am willing to play my part but realistically speaking, i do not see much can or will be done.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Lolz no sir you don't but your sure are generous with the ratings. Most of us are not but i am working to improve on that. Why hold them back really! If we cannot appreciate each other then what is the point of discussions? disagreement alone? I dont think so!

The reason i do not see much hope is quite simple sir. The people who are on this forum are the ones who are comparatively better educated and come from better backgrounds, it is an English language forum and needs internet/computer. I am sure you understand what i am trying to say. The pool of Indian and Pakistani members in no way represent our general public, these are slightly better minds we see here and still..... you do see the general tone of debate/discussion in here, the disagreements and how easily they turn abusive! Now if this is what we are getting from these slightly better than normal minds how can we realistically hope that people are realizing such things and that the situation might improve. I do pray for that to happen, i am willing to play my part but realistically speaking, i do not see much can or will be done.

One answer to this is that it is never the majority that decides policies, programmes or directions. They may ratify it with their approval and support, but the formulation has to be done, necessarily, by those who are willing to put time and effort into such esoterics, and such people are precisely those whom yoiu have pointed to.

The second part is about the bickering within this less-than-demotic group. That represents not a vertical quarrel, but a horizontal one: it is a clash of ideologies, perhaps even of theologies. At one level, those who believe in religion as a prime identifier vs. those who believe that it is something else; at another level, those who believe in the state at any cost vs. those who believe that even in matters of state and of international relations, there is a higher morality. A third divide opens up between those who seek military solutions in everything, and those who are essentially, not morally, but practically, pacifists. How can we avoid those? In those discussions, we will inevitably face others with a different point of view, and in such situations, those who believe in freedom of speech are always at a disadvantage: the others don't have to worry!

I believe that each of us has to battle our own lunatics. It is the jihad of warring against one's own worse impulses, before going on to challenge the imperfections or impieties of others. It is only victory in this that will bring a generous and workable, in the sense, sustainable solution to the sub-continent.

 

[Brickwall]

india do not even treat Kashmiri people and others like dalits, Muslims and even Christians as human, how could india possible understand talk about rights. Besides, Baluchistan people exercised their rights freely and openly and that resoundingly denounced india.

Yes we all know, how free Baluchistan people are ...

 

[Areesh]

we also can say this about Azad Kashmir and pakistan itself is a sponsor of all terrorist activities and a safe heaven of Let, Jash etc. and hafez saeed is the master mind of kasmir unrest so better not to tell us whom to blame.

You can't say anything about AJK. AJK is peaceful and people are happy with Pakistan. No matter what propaganda you do about AJK the fact is AJK is peaceful right now unlike IOk which is a hell thanks to your occupation and oppression.

 

[Asian.Century]

India is desperate and weak, As the Indian Foreign Minister, says "This is foreign policy of a novice: Salman Khurshid on PM Modi’s Balochistan, Azad Kashmir remarks"

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/this-is-...an-azad-kashmir-remarks.444722/#ixzz4Hv4CgsMx

In others words, "Yeh ek anari ki foreign policy hai," Salman Khurshid said

 

[MomandKhan]

This is what happens when a chai wala becomes a countries leader.

Why take this dig at Chai Walas. I know a lot of good chaiwalas. They are great people and could make great leaders if circumstances were different.

 

[ashok mourya]

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...q3UXez_mJLI12EINA&sig2=j6k4GHgjEyeisNjkMXEHLA

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Why take this dig at Chai Walas. I know a lot of good chaiwalas. They are great people and could make great leaders if circumstances were different.

This chai wala isn't one of them kiddo.

 

[eddie01]

You can't say anything about AJK. AJK is peaceful and people are happy with Pakistan. No matter what propaganda you do about AJK the fact is AJK is peaceful right now unlike IOk which is a hell thanks to your occupation and oppression.

haha, sir jee kyu paresan hote ho itna . We know how peaceful paskitan was / is or any of its province ... regarding our Kashmir IA is doing good to keep those traitors in check .

 

[Areesh]

haha, sir jee kyu paresan hote ho itna . We know how peaceful paskitan was / is or any of its province ... regarding our Kashmir IA is doing good to keep those traitors in check .

AJK is thousands times more peaceful than IOK. Go fool yourself with BS from your media.

 

[eddie01]

No matter how much you rant. Your bakwas can't change the reality that AJK is peaceful completely while IOK is hell thanks to your forceful occupation of that region.

we know who is doing bakwass and who is responsible for the current situation of Kashmir.