Pro China youtuber's account shut down

[Beast]

For people complaining about freedom of speech
China does not allow freedom of speech so why is China angry when they get shut down?
It's perfectly consistent with their ideology stop freedom of speech.

I mean, I am not happy with free speech violations since that is my culture, but why is China upset?

Second, youtube is blocked in China, so who are these videos for?

Our Chinese friends love to complain about western propaganda but never point out Chinese propaganda.

China has no business to be on youtube, twitter, etc but here they are

https://www.youtube.com/user/CCTVNEWSbeijing/videos

Why does CPC need to have youtube channels if not for propaganda.

Please dont put China on the same rank with western hypocrite. First of all, China never claimed , they are champion of human right and king of freedom of speech. China stance is consistent and clear. While west especially US brag and announce to rest of the world, they are champion of human right and total freedom of media and speech and yet? They are selective in exercising their self pro-claimed stance with regards to all this issue.

Will you get angry with hypocrite or people with double standard? If somebody decide to trash you just because you are Pakistanis and no other reason while he brag he has the fullest respect for all human mankind, how would you feel?

China national policy is clear and consistent. US and West with their flip flop policy is not. See the differences?

 

[Rusty]

Please dont put China on the same rank with western hypocrite. First of all, China never claimed , they are champion of human right and king of freedom of speech. China stance is consistent and clear. While west especially US brag and announce to rest of the world, they are champion of human right and total freedom of media and speech and yet? They are selective in exercising their self pro-claimed stance with regards to all this issue.

Will you get angry with hypocrite or people with double standard? If somebody decide to trash you just because you are Pakistanis and no other reason while he brag he has the fullest respect for all human mankind, how would you feel?

China national policy is clear and consistent. US and West with their flip flop policy is not. See the differences?

... You didn't really address my point.

China blocks you tube/twitter/etc but then they have official representation on there.

It's like me hating India but then having a house there.

That is hypocritical.

And yes, I already agreed with you about the west being hypocritical.

Dude. The west and CN all don't allow so called freedom of speech. But CN never claims itself as freedom of speech bla bla. That's the point.

Sure, we can get into a philosophical debate on "freedom"

but end of the day this is happening in China
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/09/asia/houston-rockets-fan-arrested-china-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

"A 25-year-old Houston Rockets fan in China threatened to burn the Chinese flag in protest of the ongoing dispute between Beijing and the NBA team, and told police to "come and arrest him."

He was behind bars hours later."

while this happens in the US

 

[Beast]

... You didn't really address my point.

China blocks you tube/twitter/etc but then they have official representation on there.

It's like me hating India but then having a house there.

That is hypocritical.

And yes, I already agreed with you about the west being hypocritical.



Sure, we can get into a philosophical debate on "freedom"

but end of the day this is happening in China
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/09/asia/houston-rockets-fan-arrested-china-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

"A 25-year-old Houston Rockets fan in China threatened to burn the Chinese flag in protest of the ongoing dispute between Beijing and the NBA team, and told police to "come and arrest him."

He was behind bars hours later."

while this happens in the US

How is China hypocrite? China block YouTube doesn't mean China stance is not allowed to use it to broadcast it's news for other audience. Show me a statement by China claim they will not use YouTube. Banning YouTube in China vs not using it is 2 different thing. Try harder.

China never claim they are champion of freedom and human right. They always advocate equal partner treatment and win win situation. No intervene in foreign leadership management of other country. The policy is always consistent and clear.

 

[Rusty]

Mr Rusty should release a video on Youtube threatening to murder the head of state of Canada or Pakistan. An hour later he has been arrested and asking why he is being detained as he has not committed the crime yet. Similar to the flag desecration case which is a criminal offense in many countries.

Freedom of speech has a price, insulting the head of state is also a criminal act in many western countries.

your "what-about-ism" is so basic. You guys really do need better patriotic education

It is established law that you have freedom of speech until you put others in danger.
Its reasonable and logical, but our Chinese friends do not understand what freedom of speech means so they go to the extremes of "WeLl, WhY dOn'T yOu ThReAtEn SoMeOnE's LiFe AnD sEe HoW fReE yOu ArE!!!!!!"

How is China hypocrite? China block YouTube doesn't mean China stance is not allowed to use it to broadcast it's news for other audience. Show me a statement by China claim they will not use YouTube. Banning YouTube in China vs not using it is 2 different thing. Try harder.

China never claim they are champion of freedom and human right. They always advocate equal partner treatment and win win situation. No intervene in foreign leadership management of other country. The policy is always consistent and clear.

Really?
Bro
If I block something, that by definition I oppose it.

You are doing mental gymnastics right now to justify it, but it's not working.

 

[Beast]

your "what-about-ism" is so basic. You guys really do need better patriotic education

It is established law that you have freedom of speech until you put others in danger.
Its reasonable and logical, but our Chinese friends do not understand what freedom of speech means so they go to the extremes of "WeLl, WhY dOn'T yOu ThReAtEn SoMeOnE's LiFe AnD sEe HoW fReE yOu ArE!!!!!!"



Really?
Bro
If I block something, that by definition I oppose it.

You are doing mental gymnastics right now to justify it, but it's not working.

That is only your own definition. For me China stance is clear and consistent, for example. Morphine is ban for public usage and can only by strict medical usage , issue to patient near death to relieve pain. So how can it be contradicting? Try harder.

 

[Rusty]

That is only your own definition. For me China stance is clear and consistent, for example. Morphine is ban for public usage and can only by strict medical usage , issue to patient near death to relieve pain. So how can it be contradicting? Try harder.

Ahaha, good one.

I am sorry bro but we will just have to agree to disagree.
I do not have the same patriotic education as you and for me, China blocking free speech speech (you tube) but then having official you tube channels is hypocritical and serves no purpose but for propaganda.

So when you say "west bad, propaganda" we can agree with you and then say the same about China.

 

[Beast]

Ahaha, good one.

I am sorry bro but we will just have to agree to disagree.
I do not have the same patriotic education as you and for me, China blocking free speech speech (you tube) but then having official you tube channels is hypocritical and serves no purpose but for propaganda.

So when you say "west bad, propaganda" we can agree with you and then say the same about China.

So how you ran out of constructive counter words and resort to self comfort reply to smooth yourself. Me 1 vs you 0

 

[riscol]

Mr Rusty has trouble understanding the meaning of insulting the head of state is not threatening his/her life yet it is a criminal act in many countries even in Europe. His intelligence is somewhat lacking.

 

[Mista]

Well, YouTube is banned in China anyway so China doesn't have leverage against YT. YouTube's revenue isn't affected so they don't give a damn to China; same goes to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. You can't launch a 'boycott YouTube' campaign on Weibo.

On the other hand look at NBA and look fast they bend.

 

[rott]

I should give this guy 1 million likes if given a chance.

 

[Beast]

Well, YouTube is banned in China anyway so China doesn't have leverage against YT. YouTube's revenue isn't affected so they don't give a damn to China; same goes to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. You can't launch a 'boycott YouTube' campaign on Weibo.

On the other hand look at NBA and look fast they bend.

Google Android earn billions from Huawei. Guess what? Zero leverage against US government decision. It's good that YouTube is banned in China.

 

[rott]

Google Android earn billions from Huawei. Guess what? Zero leverage against US government decision. It's good that YouTube is banned in China.

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