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I have been concerned that in India it has to some extent become a fashion to follow the white man in particular America etc. One of the things that the west prides itself is gay rights and various other perversions. This article would suggests that Indians were at it all well before Europeans and Americans. In fact it would appear that invaders be they Muslims or Europeans India was emancipated and allowed this kind of behaviour centuries ago. It is only now that the west is catching up. Go Incredible India claim your pre Islamic or pre British way of life culture.

Pre-colonial India embraced homosexuality, Govt tells SC

Friday, 23 March 2012 00:37
PNS | New Delhi


For social and religious groups opposed to gay sex and homosexuality as being anti-Indian and anti-cultural, this piece of news should warrant concern.

Gay sex, oral sex, and group sex were not unheard of in the Indian society prior to 18th century and no guilt was attached to such erotic sexual tendencies, according to the Government.

Stating this before the Supreme Court on Thursday, Attorney General Goolam E Vahanvati packed this detail with proof to strengthen Centre’s stand for supporting the Delhi High Court decision to decriminalise gay sex.

With the Court hearing a bunch of petitions challenging the constitutional validity of IPC Section 377, Vahanvati discussed the socio-cultural setting that existed in India at a time when the Indian Penal Code (IPC) was drafted.

The Attorney General said: “Before the enactment of the IPC, the Indian society had a much greater tolerance for homosexuality than its British counterpart.”

Erotic art sculptures and paintings in temples depicting group sex, oral sex, sex in every conceivable position, buggery and masturbation demonstrated that homosexuals in India “were free to satisfy their fancies”.

In Britain, the act referred to as buggery was punishable with death and for this reason Lord Macaulay, while inserting Section 377 in the IPC, reflected the British moral system that condemned such acts as “deviant and depraved”.

“Introduction of Section 377 in India was not a reflection of existing Indian values and traditions. Rather it was imposition of ‘sexual imperialism’ upon Indian society due to the moral views of the colonisers,” the Attorney General said.

The bench of Justices GS Singhvi and SJ Mukhopadhyay, however, sought more proof from the shastras, Vedas and existing literature of the period to be fully convinced that such acts were not viewed as “aberrations”. On the flip side, the Court wondered if such acts were accepted in the society, what prevented the Government from changing the law to reflect our culture and traditions.

“Why is it that for 62 years, we have not been able to come out of the shadow of British law-making? It has been one of the banes of our system today,” the Bench remarked.

Though English had never been the language of the masses in India, the Court wondered how litigants in rural areas could be aware of their legal rights when the law is written in English.

Suggesting a change in the basic law drafting process, the bench added, “If our law had been simply filed in our own language (and) in the understanding of our own local customs and traditions, of course with a touch of modernity, these problems would not have occurred.” Vahanvati was cautious to add in the end, “We are a conservative society. I should not be seen as advocating a license for such acts.”


http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/...dia-embraced-homosexuality-govt-tells-sc.html
 
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Am glad the Government has finally taken the right stand. Even Nepal has done something similar. A person can't be judged on the basis of his sexual orientation.
 
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If the govt. (and you) mean the positions depicted in the like of Khajuraho, maybe true. But that's more than 1000 years ago. About a 700 yr gap between then and the arrival of the Brits. I dont think these practices continued when the British were here.

And I see a mocking tone in your comments at the beginning of your post. I dont think you have to go far in Pakistan to find examples of homosexuality. As they say in chaste Punjabi - Kade apni manji thalle vi sotta fer laya karo.
 
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I'm happy that India is providing rights to all its people...even In GITA it is written that you have been judged by your KARMA. We are moving in right direction.
 
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If the govt. (and you) mean the positions depicted in the like of Khajuraho, maybe true. But that's more than 1000 years ago. About a 700 yr gap between then and the arrival of the Brits. I dont think these practices continued when the British were here.

And I see a mocking tone in your comments at the beginning of your post. I dont think you have to go far in Pakistan to find examples of homosexuality. As they say in chaste Punjabi - Kade apni manji thalle vi sotta fer laya karo.

I find it a bit difficult to believe that for the 700 year gap there was no homosexuality in India. There were gays then, there are gays now. It is not for the government to judge a citizen's choice of lifestyle and it is indeed criminal on the part of the government to discriminate against its own citizens.
 
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India has always embraced all kinds of people. Inclusiveness rather then exclusiveness is the reason why we have been able to survive for thousands of years.
 
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And I see a mocking tone in your comments at the beginning of your post. .

Mate stop being insecure my suggestion was that Europeans and west could learn from Indian and Incredible India does not have to copy or ape the white man.
 
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Mate stop being insecure my suggestion was that Europeans and west could learn from Indian and Incredible India does not have to copy or ape the white man.

why they need to learn from us. they have their culture and experience. let shall both thrive
 
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I find it a bit difficult to believe that for the 700 year gap there was no homosexuality in India. There were gays then, there are gays now. It is not for the government to judge a citizen's choice of lifestyle and it is indeed criminal on the part of the government to discriminate against its own citizens.

Yea but my point was India should be congratulated as the west are only coming to accept these acts now.
 
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