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I have no hate for development, so don't give me that bakwas. Which bridge do I want to blow? None. What I would love to do is turn it into an internal motorway, a lot more practical than wasting money on maintaining the bus program and will help a lot with the traffic issues. It would also reduce maintenance costs, allowing that money to be used to fix important issues like the drainage system.
Yes, EXACTLY. Infrastructure such as drainage and toilets. Infrastructure such as electricity and water. Not metro buses. For God's sake man, khuda ka hauf karo bhai, think: what is more important, public transportation or sewage?
One word: Priorities. Think about it. Metro bus is not a waste of money because no one rides it. It is a waste of money because our economy can't afford it and there are a lot more pressing issues that need to be solved. Those people were perfectly happy riding rickshaws and wagons. What they were not happy about was that their rickshaws and wagons had to wade through pulls of sewage whenever it rained and the drainage system was overwhelmed.
PTI ko baba ji ka thullu, khush? Yaha PTI ki baat to ho hi nahi rahi thi.
Arre bhai, yeh kya baat kar rahe ho? Ham log kya 15 mah se bakwas kar rahe hain ke electoral reforms lao, electoral reforms lao?
Our economy can't support nukes, so was it a waste? Do you know the impact of sanctions? we still can't buy many stuff from numerous countries today.
Irrelevant analogy. Nukes were required for national security, a lot more than some cheap PR stunt.
Seriously? You mean like this?:
Is Metro Bus a success story?
You clearly haven't been to Lahore. Their stupid flyovers and pillars reduced road space by half. There was absolutely no decrease in the amount of traffic either. So, it ended up increasing traffic jams tenfold.
You just pulled this out of your backside didn't you? It in absolutely no way 'downplays' any 'smog effect' in Lahore. If you're talking about the areas around Ravi which are usually foggy in the winter, the bridge was already small enough, now there's a bunch of railing in the middle. Again, makes it harder for people.
So you want to try and copy India? Seriously? Their economy is ten times larger than Pakistan's. They can easily afford a mars mission while maintaining their work for poverty and toilets. Unlike Pakistan, India actually achieved most of its development goals. Again, completely irrelevant example.
Motorways are not important? So if army needs to get something from Karachi to Peshawar, they've to travel through those small broken roads, good to know. But anyway, why do people use it or why did Musharraf allow motorway to continue to be built anyway, after, Pakistan doesn't need it. Just like India, they don't need metro train or anything but toilets.
Now here comes the strawman. Where did I say Motorways are not important?
What, seriously
? Dimagh theek hai aap ka? One person pays 20 Rs and the government pays 40 Rs for it. Where is the revenue coming from??? I don't need to take any accounting course to know that revenue doesn't magically appear out of thin air.Good god. Other parts of the world don't have metros with stops that are 10 km apart, neither do they have huge pillars in the middle of the road. What the hell makes you think that traffic reduced because of metros?? Whoever had a car before this metro would not get rid of it because of this metro. And whoever can afford to buy and travel in one would not spend his time being zaleel and khwaar in your metro bus.
It is not going to do anything if these thousands of people are going to get off and sit on a rickshaw to take them where they want to go. It might have reduced the road commute by a fraction of a percentage but it is simply not worth the money spent on it at this time, when it could have been spent on a lot more important things. You can argue all day long about how wonderful the Metro bus is but one thing is certain: the cost was not worth the benefit and the money was desperately needed elsewhere.
Just how 'Fit for Purpose' are the Metrobus projects? - Blogs - DAWN.COM
‘Metronomics’ in Lahore: We may be heading for an ‘F’ – The Express Tribune Blog
They can afford to make toilets while making metros simultaneously. If you don't believe me, just read this from UNDP:
And compare it to Pakistan:
While India was sending stuff to Mars and making Metros in Delhi, it was also working on its population's well being (i.e 'toilets').
Meh, I'm not going to read your wall of text.Now here comes the strawman. Where did I say Motorways are not important?
What, seriously
Good god. Other parts of the world don't have metros with stops that are 10 km apart, neither do they have huge pillars in the middle of the road. What the hell makes you think that traffic reduced because of metros?? Whoever had a car before this metro would not get rid of it because of this metro. And whoever can afford to buy and travel in one would not spend his time being zaleel and khwaar in your metro bus.
And guess what? Because the stops are far apart and no one likes walking, the rickshaws and wagons are still really popular! No reduction in traffic but the congestion has increased thanks to the road area being halved.
It is not going to do anything if these thousands of people are going to get off and sit on a rickshaw to take them where they want to go. It might have reduced the road commute by a fraction of a percentage but it is simply not worth the money spent on it at this time, when it could have been spent on a lot more important things. You can argue all day long about how wonderful the Metro bus is but one thing is certain: the cost was not worth the benefit and the money was desperately needed elsewhere.
Some perspective here:
More perspective:
Just how 'Fit for Purpose' are the Metrobus projects? - Blogs - DAWN.COM
Read this:
‘Metronomics’ in Lahore: We may be heading for an ‘F’ – The Express Tribune Blog
They can afford to make toilets while making metros simultaneously. If you don't believe me, just read this from UNDP:
Millennium Development Goal 1 | UNDP in India
And compare it to Pakistan:
Millennium Development Goal 1 | UNDP in Pakistan
While India was sending stuff to Mars and making Metros in Delhi, it was also working on its population's well being (i.e 'toilets').
Look, I would be all for the Metro bus and infrastructure development if it was feasible at this point in time. But there is no point arguing about it now that its done, so lets think about the future: we need good leadership and for that we need Democracy : so what about electoral reforms? Why is it that half the parliament is actually against Electronic Machines, even though the whole world (yes, India too) has them? Are they too expensive?
And what about electricity? For PMLN, micro hydel power generation is 'too expensive' but metro buses are not. Doesn't matter how you spin it, the truth is that when PMLN does something it is only for their own benefit.
Its the other way around. The slower you build, it costs more.
