PP 160 Polls

[Meengla]

PPP can only win with gun point.

Absence of PML-Q and PPP can only hurt PTI.

'gun point' victory in PMNL-ruled Punjab by PPP?!

And I agree with SparklingWay: PPP's absence can benefit PTI because a PPP voter is more likely to vote against PMLN.

 

[BATMAN]

I thought PPP and PML have power share agreement.
when PPPP make rigging N league keep quite and vice versa...
Any specific reason of PPP not taking part, than?

PML-Q vote can will naturally go to another PML.

In any case administration will definately support.

 

[mikkix]

I thought PPP and PML have power share agreement.
when PPPP make rigging N league keep quite and vice versa...
Any specific reason of PPP not taking part, than?

PML-Q vote can will naturally go to another PML.

In any case administration will definately support.

you are right...

 

[Meengla]

@Batman,
It is a 'power-sharing' arrangement only in name: PMLN does not need PPP in Punjab. May be, just may be, in Feb 2008 if PPP had played the 'Changa Manga' politics then PPP had any real 'say' in Punjab.
Currently, the PPP Punjab Assembly members are supposedly being rubbished and shoved around by PMLN. And PPP members are trying to just get-along and enjoy the perks of power--remember it was in 1996 when they had power.
Punjab will certainly heat up in 2013 elections. Until then...both parties are happy to enjoy the 'perks' of power in various federating units.

PS. PPP did not field a candidate most likely because it had not chance of winning. Now, in Southern Punjab you will see PPP putting up fights in by-elections.

 

[BATMAN]

Now, in Southern Punjab you will see PPP putting up fights in by-elections.

I lived all my life in Punjab and never heard before addressing punjab in north and south denominations!
It is quite new but is it really that popular....?

Now some news:
Corrupt leaders undermine constitution: Imran

Monday, June 14, 2010
Our correspondent

LAHORE: Chairman of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf, Imran Khan, has said dishonest and corrupt leaders are main hurdles in the supremacy of the constitution, judiciary and rule of law in the country.

He was addressing a gathering on Sunday at PP-160 besides other PTI leaders.He criticised the PML-N for violating the judiciary in accepting the 18th amendment by cooperating with the PPP government while they got votes in the name of independent judiciary in the last elections.

Imran stated that the Sharif brothers performed the role of Mir Sadiq and Mir Jaffer to get their own benefits by passing the 18th amendment in the Parliament. He said how PML-N could claim to work for the poor Pakistani people, as the Sharif brothers had their business, property and assets outside the country.

He said the independent judiciary was the only ray of hope for the people of Pakistan at this time and if the government created any mess to rule out judiciary then people of Pakistan would shake the government by coming on the roads.

Imran expressed his anger by saying that fake circus tigers of Raiwind were making merry on the wealth of common people and about 350 policemen were deployed for the security of PML-N head Nawaz Sharif.

He advised the Sharif brothers to get assistance from Benazir Income Support Programme, as they showed only Rs5,000 tax in their returns submitted to the Election Commission of Pakistan.

The PTI chairman also stated that pro-American government was involved in the killings of tribal people for their personal interests and accepting American demands. He urged the nation to disqualify the incumbent government and their representatives by voting PTI in the by-elections.

 

[BATMAN]

Imran reveals pre poll rigging plans

LAHORE: Chairman Tehreek-e-Insaf, Imran Khan while demanding of the Government and Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to conduct elections under the supervision of Rangers, has provided 14,000 fake and bogus voters lists to the media persons.

Addressing the press conference, Imran Khan alongwith Malik Zaheer Abbas Khokhar, Ahsan Rasheed, Umar Sarfraz Cheema and with Mian Mehmood Rasheed said that PML-N made plans for rigging in elections of PP-160 as they had done in NA-123. He provided 14,000 fake voters lists to the media, which was recovered from Election Commission office situated in Fazlia Colony.

Imran Khan demanded of the ECP to conduct judicial inquiry and the government to carry out criminal inquiry of the rigging issue and blocked the result till the completion of inquiry. He said that he would fight against the Sharif brothers till the last breath and would combat them. When Sharif brothers came into politics they had one factory and now they have 22 factories which they made with corruption and fraud, he added.

Chairman Tehrik-e-Insaf stated that Mian Nawaz Sharif was doing rigging with the help of administration and ECP. He said that Nawaz Sharif ran away to abroad when any major issue raised in the country, as they are playing the role of friendly opposition. The federal government took notice over the corruption of Sharif brothers and save the masses money.

Imran Khan further said that the masses were disappointed by the double standard politics and was well aware of the current political situation.

Now the point is who is dictating ECP to rig elections in favor of Sharif family????
PPP and N league deal is an open secret!

 

[Meengla]

@Batman,
Perhaps I should not have used upper-case 'S' in 'Southern Punjab' but I was referring to the south of Punjab province--some call it the Seraiki Belt--where the PPP gets a lot votes and, is, even now, actively participating in by-elections.

PPP is a spent-force in much of Punjab outside of the southern parts and so, in face-saving mode, is cooperating with PMLN.

But come 2013 it will be different: PPP vote bank may have shrunk by 20-40% in Punjab but that voter is still a PPP voter and can make a difference in multi-candidate elections where non-PPP vote is split.

 

[BATMAN]

I think both PPP and N league assume power with rigging, they are not popular parties and if they need to stay relevant they need ot co-operate with each other and power share is the best way forward.
Give punjab to Sharif family and center with PPPP and next five years Sharif may get center and PPPP will get Sindh and ANP will always vote for anti Pakistan parties.

 

[greatsequence]

lived all my life in Punjab and never heard before addressing punjab in north and south denominations!
It is quite new but is it really that popular....?

Because you probably lived in central punjab. It has been common in the saraiki belt and in the pothwar region. I even heard pothwaries as saying "punjab mai aisay hota hai " when they wanted to talk about the central punjab.

 

[Meengla]

I think both PPP and N league assume power with rigging, they are not popular parties and if they need to stay relevant they need ot co-operate with each other and power share is the best way forward.
Give punjab to Sharif family and center with PPPP and next five years Sharif may get center and PPPP will get Sindh and ANP will always vote for anti Pakistan parties.

You are wrong on so many things:
Yes, they are in power-sharing because even Nawaz Sharif knows that the Army is wary of him and in the event of a coup he is going to lose it all. PMLN is almost certain to form the next Federal govt. but I don't think PPP is going to be content with just winning Sindh--that has never been a problem for PPP since 1971.

I don't know where your political leanings are--perhaps PTI?--but to say that PMLN and PPP don't have support of the masses is so incorrect. Had it been the case then, under Musharraf's elections, these parties would not have routed the so-called PMLQ.

You are, no offense, ignorant about Pakistan's politics. Sure, I don't like PMLN and I admire Imran Khan for his personal integrity but then I cannot expect my personal wishes to become the wishes of those millions who actually go out and vote for their candidates.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Until unless we dont change our mindset, we will not getrid with all problems.

These politicans ared not sincere with us, especially PML-N/Q, PPP, MQM etc.

Let Imran give a chance!!!!!



It surprises me why people are still behind PML-N/Q, PPP or MQM.
We know they all are corrupt but still Y we are voting them.

 

[Tayyab1796]

With the dismal performance of PPP in the centre and N league in Punjab , both the parties now know that they cannot win if fair elections are conducted so they plan on rigging ... I can hear army boots marching again in near future... nobody will say this time ' Worst democracy is better then best dictatorship' ...oh yes...

 

[kugga]

Both PPP and PML-N are supporting each other's candidate in by-elections.... even PML-N supported the brother of prime minister in Multan... and it's true that these two parties have support of masses with them it's not that they win only on the basis of rigging.. rigging is also a part of their vote bank, but to say that they have no support is totally wrong...

I know some Jiaaley of PPP who were against zardari when BB was alive but now they are supporting him just because of party leadership... So I think a jiaala will remain a jiaala no matter what his leaders do.....

People here are just supporting parties because they are supporting they have no reason for their support...

 

[aks]

our whole family voted imran khan my czns friends n all hope imran bhai's party will win this election but its looking impossible because PML N will rig this election alot one of my friend casted vote even he dnt have NIC

 

[aks]

my father's friend was supporting PML N he had made town office of PML N in front of his house but today he casted vote for PTI hope soo all supporters of these corrupt parties start doing this act