Post supernatural experiences of yours and fallows.

[Signalian]

A question, as per Islam, the spirit or soul is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen right?
So who come they are present in graveyard? Can you explain this to me as i will like to learn a bit more about this.

Sorry for being so late with this question.

Maybe i mentioned it earlier in this or some other thread, however i don't have solid reference to back up what i will explain.

When a person dies, whatever knowledge he possessed in life is taken in grave with him. The soul/spirit then answers the questions of the angels. If the spirit is strong (pious, religious, spiritual etc), it makes its way to barzakh. if the spirit is weak (worldly desires were never ending), it is not strong enough to make itself to barzakh. so what helps?sadqa e jaria, someone reciting koran for him and the usual things on such lines. This will make the spirit strong and then it can journey to barzakh.

As an example. Say a person was a fraudster and a liar throughout his life. He died and got buried in a graveyard. some lady paid an amil to get her co-worker in problem, out of jealousy. Amil travels to graveyard at night, uses his knowledge to check which spirit can be useful for his cause. he spots the spirit of that fraudster and liar, does an amal, captures it. sends it inside body of co-worker. The co-worker who maybe honest generally now gets thoughts in head to lie and cheat. Does it, gets caught and is demoted or fired.

Moral of story: do good deeds in life, get beneficial knowledge to answer questions in grave, be pious.

 

[Signalian]

@Arsalan

one thing more, why choose a spirit of dead person when a jinn can be captured for same purpose?
A jinn can be killed, a spirit cannot be killed. So in the above example, if the magic effect done by an amil is to be countered, then killing the spirit wouldnt be an option, which is the first option for an excorcist when confronting jinns. Its making the task more difficult for the opposite party(co-worker) to counter the effects.

Jinn like humans can be killed, where as how will you kill the spirit of a a dead person. The spirit can be subdued, sent away, captured, locked etc but it cannot be killed. and all this subduing, locking etc cannot be done by amils sitting in their shops. Fakeer or dervish can help in this regard, not an amil or black magician.

 

[Hey I'll love you]

Something which happened with me that i feel afraid to say, I but personally i don't believe in this crap

 

[Arsalan]

Maybe i mentioned it earlier in this or some other thread, however i don't have solid reference to back up what i will explain.

When a person dies, whatever knowledge he possessed in life is taken in grave with him. The soul/spirit then answers the questions of the angels. If the spirit is strong (pious, religious, spiritual etc), it makes its way to barzakh. if the spirit is weak (worldly desires were never ending), it is not strong enough to make itself to barzakh. so what helps?sadqa e jaria, someone reciting koran for him and the usual things on such lines. This will make the spirit strong and then it can journey to barzakh.

As an example. Say a person was a fraudster and a liar throughout his life. He died and got buried in a graveyard. some lady paid an amil to get her co-worker in problem, out of jealousy. Amil travels to graveyard at night, uses his knowledge to check which spirit can be useful for his cause. he spots the spirit of that fraudster and liar, does an amal, captures it. sends it inside body of co-worker. The co-worker who maybe honest generally now gets thoughts in head to lie and cheat. Does it, gets caught and is demoted or fired.

Moral of story: do good deeds in life, get beneficial knowledge to answer questions in grave, be pious.

Alright, it seems i will never develop an understanding of these things then....
Its complicated and i have no where to start from, need to start from very basics really and have no idea how and where to do it.


IN your post, what i understand is that you are saying that after death the spirit remains in the world until it completes its journey through barzakh and the time for that can vary for different people. It is during that phase when the spirit is still in the world that some one can try and catch it.

 

[Arsalan]

OK guys, here is one more thing. What do you suggest is the difference between magic and illusion? As we all know, there are some very famous illusionists out there, David Copperfield, Chris Angel, showing their tricks on live TV and most of the time, it blows you mind, HOW IS ANY OF THAT POSSIBLE!! What are your views on this matter? Is it real? Is it magic where they get help from Jinns or some other things and make the objects disappear right before your eyes!!

@war&peace @Signalian @PakSword @Verve


@Umair Nawaz not sure if it is deliberate of unintentional but yoour rants are derailing the discussion. No need to provoke other members like this, you think you are acting smart but you really look stupid trying to provoke people like little kids. Please stop this.

@Signalian DO NOT REPLY TO ANY TROLL POSTS PLEASE

 

[Signalian]

bacha abb tu yahe kahy gana....a sophisticated way of avoiding embarrassing situations

I limit my expression rather than boast. I have written these experiences in many different threads.

 

[The Eagle]

Post containing personal attack, provocation & flaming removed and Member thread banned. Rather than throwing tantrums and attacking others for nothing, would be better to stay on topic, discuss related experiences or read and move.

Regards,

 

[war&peace]

hmmm,,, You mean Jinnat ky taliban! Interesting.

Going through the thread right now, have reached page 10. VERY INTERESTING!

@Signalian @Ocean @war&peace @Ahmet Pasha have all contributed with some interesting details.

What I have come to know from experts of Raqqaya that the most common trait of Jinnat is "lying and dishonesty", so for example when a Jinn posses a person either due to black magic or some other reason, so when these Rqqaya experts try to remove it from the person and they communicate with the jinn and ask who did the black magic, they always lie with a malicious intent..they will always take a name of your relatives or friends so as to create enmity between you and your dear ones..And if the experts confronts the Jinn, it changes its statement but again it lies...
So never trust them. Even Prophet Sulaiman (Peace be upon him) did not trust the jinns with fetching of throne of the Queen Saba (Sheba) rather he let a human, his prime minister with a special kind of knowledge, do the job.

 

[war&peace]

A question, as per Islam, the spirit or soul is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen right?
So who come they are present in graveyard? Can you explain this to me as i will like to learn a bit more about this.

Sorry for being so late with this question.

Bhai Souls leave this world. According to some experts there are eleven types of Jinnat and one of them lives in graveyards / cemeteries.. Also every person a jinn associated with him or her called "Hamzad" so after the death of the person, it lurks in graveyard around his or her grave.

 

[Arsalan]

Bhai Souls leave this world. According to some experts there are eleven types of Jinnat and one of them lives in graveyards / cemeteries.. Also every person a jinn associated with him or her called "Hamzad" so after the death of the person, it lurks in graveyard around his or her grave.

WHY?
I mean, why is he attached to human and is there one for every human? Why is he here? Any more details?

@Signalian bro you also respond to the posts i shared a few hours ago, will like to know a bit more about this if possible.

 

[war&peace]

WHY?
I mean, why is he attached to human and is there one for every human? Why is he here? Any more details?

Well, IMHO, the satan appoints it keep misguiding the person from the right path...all the time ...But IDK more about this "why" part
But is it true...yes it is as it has been mentioned in hadeeth..rough wording of the hadeeth is Holy Prophet said "Everyone among you has a evil-associated to him, he eats when you eat, he drink when you drink and takes part in everything you do. But if we start everything with Allah's blessed name i.e.

Then the satan (jinn) or hamzad is unable to eat so eat with right hand and recite Allah's name and do the same before drinking and doing anything good. A virtuous person's hamzad is weak while an evil person has a healthy hamzad.

Holy Prophet (Peace be alway upon him) also said that even he himself had but his hamzad has embraced Islam.
So always recite Allah's name.. and keep your soul strong against the satan..when you indulge in evil doings, your soul becomes weaker and satan becomes stronger.. so it is important to stay clear of the evil deeds..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yes the concept of a badrooh is highly faulty in Pak o Hind made Islam

A question, as per Islam, the spirit or soul is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen right?
So who come they are present in graveyard? Can you explain this to me as i will like to learn a bit more about this.

Sorry for being so late with this question.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Please back up your claims of muwakil and spirits and amaliyaat with proofs from either the life, saying or action of the prophet or our holy book of law. In order to substantiate your claims.

yes the last point, clean uniform and selfie

 

[SQ8]

Remember a house mentioned by a relative in Bahria which had serious issues. Among which were sudden(I mean within a minute) swarms of ants that would cover entire rooms making them black.
Another case was of him being on the throne and then the commode shower coming out of its holder and doing a snake dance in front of him.. imagine being stuck with an ongoing exit process and having supernatural help to force it out.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Its all FAKE