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Post supernatural experiences of yours and fallows.

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It is called friendship.. so in jinns as well, there are those who are pious.. They want to sit in the gatherings of righteous Muslims. But they never cross their dimension to show their physical appearance unless there is a extreme need.

Plus those who are real Waliullah, they never ask help from these creatures.. in fact, these creatures do not help them either.. it's not a relationship what we human have with each other.

Moreover, those people are directly helped by Allah.. Allah create such circumstances which lead to their help in situations requiring such help..
In fact. as Muslims, we are forbidden to seek help from any such creatures except Allah.So it is totally impossible for a true Muslim to indulge in such a sinful activity and lose his faith. Most of these jali babas are satanic people masquerade as waliullahs to fool the ignorant and weak in faith people. That ensures a constant source of income and benefits for them.
 
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I have read Flatland and this right here is the most helpful illustrations

...but the Jinn being in a different(higher?) dimension is just a hypothesis by you...a possible explanation as to why we can't perceive them, whereas I m looking for something more provable. Secondly string theory and the 10 dimensions...let's just wait before using that...bcuz it is still incomplete and has yet to withstand the test of time.
4th dimension is that from which the cold air enters the blanket on a cold night.. :p:
 
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:-) comparing interaction of an average human being with example of Hazrat Muhammad SAW.

Hazrat Muhammad SAW had a responsibility,a duty, what kind of duty does an average human have towards jinns to interact with them lol.
I would never dare to compare the likes of Prophets with me or some other average person. I was merely giving an example of Human/Jinn interactions without any detrimental side effects like Jinns losing their powers.
 
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Well true
They valued the afterlife more much like us.

Mummification took off late maybe by accident after discovering preserved bodies due to natural salts of the desert there.

Pyramids however were built by aliens you can call them djinns
what a sir syed ahmed khan type interpretation.
 
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Lot of paranormal or supernatural incidents happening in our life . A dedicated sticky thread were here by Me where it now don't know . I created that thread hearing some experience shared by listeners in a local radio program which broadcast Evey week.
I thing I found common, where any unnatural death happened that place becomes haunted don't know the religious explanation.
 
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I would never dare to compare the likes of Prophets with me or some other average person. I was merely giving an example of Human/Jinn interactions without any detrimental side effects like Jinns losing their powers.
Not the best of examples.
you have to understand that why would a jinn interact with a pious personality and why it would interact with anybody else. An amil would obviously want some benefit from the jinn so the jinn would react in a very aggressive manner. You and I mean nothing to a jinn so it wouldn't take the risk neither show interest.

You want different examples? I can give you two.
1. Marriage between Humans and Jinn. The Jinn family will throw the jinn or jinni out of the clan, it may lose powers. the Jinn or Jinni will have to use its human shape to live with human husband or wife. when the babies are born, the human mom or dad can see the baby, the rest of humans or human family cannot see the baby as it will be invisible to human eye. and there are way lots of complications which if i start typing may further confuse you. a long topic.

In short the End result...is..recipe for disaster.

2. Jinn as friend. They are moody, sensitive, over protective and emotional. they will go out of the way to help you, like put all their wealth at your feet if you need it and never remind u once how they helped u.They would know what you are thinking, so you cant hide thoughts from them. they will put a satellite on you, lol, as soon as you face any problem, or u r tense or u hear a bad news, they will arrive within one second to assist.

downside: firstly, the chances of befriending an honest, truthful,loyal jinn is 1 out of trillion trillion trillion. interacting with an invisible being or if u can only hear him/her or if they arrive in human form...mate you will go crazy, you wont be able to keep up with the level of energy they have. If you want to remain sane and love a normal life, try not to make friends with a jinn or him/her. If you make a friend and u break the trust or heart or word, they will forgive you a few times but when your chances end, they will vanish forever. This is where humans and emotions and the psyche of jinns lack such emotions here, well not in every case but in most cases. another long long topic.

There is a reason god has made pairs of human-human and jinn-jinn.

PS: Jinns have many shapes apart from their own. when they are in human world and want to look like humans, they use their human shape. Its different from their original shape.

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PS: I have no references to back up my words. read at your own will or ignore and move on.
 
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No, its a little complicated bro..

First of all, taking any kind of help from any kind of Jinn is not permitted..

They are good jinns.. but.. there is more to the story

Those who have knowledge about this subject say that Muwakkils are jinns, who think themselves as self appointed guardians of Quran.. They consider themselves as Angels (lolz).. and whoever has contact with them, they tell him that they are angels.. in fact they are jinns..

Each one of them continuously recite different Surah of Quran.. They think that reciting the Surah means protecting the words.. (well it is true in a sense because Hafizeen are also protectors in a way). So whoever recites the Surah continuously, they become friends with them.. Then they talk to them and tell the humans to ask them what they want.. Mostly people do wazifa of certain Surah to achieve this objective.. Once they become friends, these humans ask them for a lot of help.. including killing the jinns which are sent by Magicians..

But overtime, these jinn become possessive about the relationship.. So if a person stops some good acts, they force him to do it.. For example, if a person decides to go to a night club, they create such circumstances which are sometimes too dangerous.. If a person doesn't go to mosque for prayers, they force him to go.. and that's why the life becomes very difficult..

They are self appointed extremist jinns.. :lol: And getting any kind of help from them is not recommended..



Good! :tup:
hmmm,,, You mean Jinnat ky taliban! Interesting. :P

Going through the thread right now, have reached page 10. VERY INTERESTING!

@Signalian @Ocean @war&peace @Ahmet Pasha have all contributed with some interesting details.
 
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Unfortunately, this is correct, Magic can be used to kill a person slowly or instantly. Although life and death is in Allah's hands, its Allah's will whether your life is to be taken by magic or accident or naturally.

As for severely ill, if one possesses that spiritual eye and goes to a hospital or sees a person afflicted with any disease, majority of the cases have a spiritual cause behind them, whether black magic or encounter with a spiritual creature which harmed them. Probably this is why, a few doctors whom i met have a spiritual background and analyse the patient medically and spiritually. Though i'm not from a medical background, some cases also intrigued me, like a young healthy person developed brain tumor and died within a month or two. Especially the cases in which all the medical tests are clear but the patient has symptoms of a certain disease.

The procedure you explained in post and the affected areas of body like kidney are very common. Mostly, its heart and brain , then liver and kidney. The procedure of a spiritual creature entering a human body from certain places like head or feet, making its way to the target part of the body, completing its cycle of certain days there, then resting phase as the disease develops and finally attacking with full force, it may vary case to case but the resulting damage is sometimes irreplaceable.

Its ok if you don't share personal stuff, you don't need to but there is no denying that all such things exist. Since most of us cannot comprehend them so we tend to ignore them and brush them aside as mere myth or fake. Such an attitude still doesn't change reality.

Graveyard itself is a big topic. Most people think that only jinns are found in graveyards, whats ignored is that graveyard is full of spirits and mostly bad ones, those who committed heinous sins in their lifetime. It would be ignorant to think that amils/magicians go to graveyards to get control of jinns only, its the spirits they are after . Jinns have no friendship with a spirit of dead person to reside in a graveyard, jinns have many many other places to reside like mountains, valleys, caves, jungles, deserts etc.

Similarly, so called "dead people" are buried in shrines/tombs/mazar/dargah. But why is it that people go to a shrine at 3am at night but are scared to enter a graveyard at similar timings. The difference is the the spirit itself. People can spend hours sitting at a shrine but can hardly stay 15 minutes at the grave of a relative in a graveyard. From a common man's eye, dead people are buried in both places, but from a spiritual person's eye, the dimensions of both places are very different and varying universes have opened up at both places.
A question, as per Islam, the spirit or soul is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen right?
So who come they are present in graveyard? Can you explain this to me as i will like to learn a bit more about this.

Sorry for being so late with this question. :)
 
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A question, as per Islam, the spirit or soul is taken to sijjiyeen and illiyeeen right?
So who come they are present in graveyard? Can you explain this to me as i will like to learn a bit more about this.

Sorry for being so late with this question. :)


We have Kareen Djinn with us . When we died this Djinn done what seems done by the death man. I have no references though I heard it in radio program .
 
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