Pork gelatine in flu vaccine for children

[Proudpakistaniguy]

There are many medicine which contain some form of alcohol, and they are allowed by Ulema if no other alternative is available to treat the disease.

Alcohol is Haraam as well..

Now the only complexity in your question is that can we take it as a preventative measure?

I believe yes, provided there is no other alternative, and if the children suffer a lot (and they do), however, I never give my children this vaccine, as my children only contract flu once in a year, and that too for only five days... and I want my children to develop the resistance by themselves..

Another friend of mine goes for it because his daughter suffers from flu and later it increases sinusitis symptom, so much so that she remains disturbed for months..

So it depends.. if you think your children only suffer once, and that too for five days.. it's better to avoid it.. But you have to ensure that your children do not give this to anyone else in the school, because you don't know whose case is complicated.. so keep your children strictly at home, until it is completely gone..

My children are twin ( identical ) and they are starting reception class soon that's why got this letter about flu vaccine . they have this flu problems in winter mostly and they boht get sick at same time .No such issues when they are in Pakistan or during summer seasons .I think flu virals is more common in UK

Yeh. They will drive half naked drunk slags inside taxis full of alcohol fumes that would give you a high/intoxicated from clubs and pubs then go cheat the government by pretending to be low income earners, then go smoke some weed. Then spit/cuss out of trhe taxi window like a savage. But then get constipated at some chemical trace element in a eye drop.

Wonders never seize ....

lol Taxi drivers have no option to refuse drunk people . I know many people who gave up taxi job because of trouble of drunk people or they have changed their shift pattern from night to morning.. You remind me this Afghani guy who used to sleep with every random drunk girls out there but used to mock those who were eating non halal chicken in MacDonald but well doing one wrong thing don't mean you should opt for another wrong

If it's for medical purposes I don't think there should be an issue. But Priorix® doesn't have any porcine collagen and therefore would be halal and is available on the NHS, perhaps parents can choose this? Also the decision to vaccinate the child rests with the parent, if you don't want the pork based gelatin you can withhold consent. And NO, unlike what the surgery says in accordance with GDPR and HRA 1998, you don't have to give a reason as to why you wish to withhold consent.

In the UK routine immunisation programme, there are three vaccines that contain porcine gelatine:

• Fluenz Tetra® the nasal spray vaccine that protects children against flu,
• MMR VaxPro®, a vaccine that protects against measles, mumps and rubella
• Zostavax®, the vaccine that protects older adults against shingles.

NHS offer Fluenz Tetra® and I would see if I can get Priorix® privately from pharmacy

 

[Wolfhunter]

My children are twin ( identical ) and they are starting reception class soon that's why got this letter about flu vaccine . they have this flu problems in winter mostly and they boht get sick at same time .No such issues when they are in Pakistan or during summer seasons .I think flu virals is more common in UK


lol Taxi drivers have no option to refuse drunk people . I know many people who gave up taxi job because of trouble of drunk people or they have changed their shift pattern from night to morning.. You remind me this Afghani guy who used to sleep with every random drunk girls out there but used to mock those who were eating non halal chicken in MacDonald but well doing one wrong thing don't mean you should opt for another wrong


In the UK routine immunisation programme, there are three vaccines that contain porcine gelatine:

• Fluenz Tetra® the nasal spray vaccine that protects children against flu,
• MMR VaxPro®, a vaccine that protects against measles, mumps and rubella
• Zostavax®, the vaccine that protects older adults against shingles.

NHS offer Fluenz Tetra® and I would see if I can get Priorix® privately from pharmacy

http://www.nhsdirect.wales.nhs.uk/pdfs/WGGe.pdf
Priorix is available on the NHS.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Taxi drivers have no option to refuse drunk people

They do have choice. As much option as I have in working in pub full of drunks, naked slags, obscenity serving jugs of alcohol to people as a Muslim. Don't get the job in anything related to alcohol environments. Period.

but well doing one wrong thing don't mean you should opt for another wrong

Agreed. But would you be okay with guy drinking alcohol and bi*tching about weed? And using the same argumant to butress his dodgy habit?

Personally guys who drink, spit, smoke weed, cuss like animals are all "fallen". And going to jumma once a week does nothing erase their degeneracy.

My children are twin ( identical )

Ahhh??? You are blessed. I have identical twin daugthers. They are my two pieces of my heart. It's been incredibly satisfying seeing these two peas in the pod grow. Now they are 11 and slight differantiation is taking place but the similiarity in behaviour, personality is amazing making me think that genes play huge role in who we are.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

http://www.nhsdirect.wales.nhs.uk/pdfs/WGGe.pdf

Priorix is available on the NHS.

I have confirmed this with nurse . They don't offer Priorix to children . Fluenza tetra is the only one available for healthy children as per NHS vaccination programme . Priorix is actually injected flu vaccine and children only get nasal spray vaccine which has pork gelatine in it and they are not offered injected vaccine unless they have some medical problems in them. She told me to check with pharmacy and see if they could offer this privately if you willing to pay for it ​

They do have choice. As much option as I have in working in pub full of drunks, naked slags, obscenity serving jugs of alcohol to people as a Muslim. Don't get the job in anything related to alcohol environments. Period.

Most people are doing taxi Job because they often fail to find any other decent job. You cannot get away with drunk people in UK. If you are working in store and food chain, banks, hotels/restaurants, universities then you will be getting drunk customers as well. I do see take away get a lot of trouble because of drunk customers so then better sit at home if you are afraid of inhaling alcohol from drunk people . Even doctors and police has to deal with drunk people on daily basis. I often feel the smell from random drunk people walking on streets

Agreed. But would you be okay with guy drinking alcohol and bi*tching about weed? And using the same argumant to butress his dodgy habit?

Personally guys who drink, spit, smoke weed, cuss like animals are all "fallen". And going to jumma once a week does nothing erase their degeneracy.​

Yes that would be hypocrisy . He should apply his principle on himself before judging others..Juma prayer is obligatory though . You should not give up Juma prayer because you do other wrong things. It might be possible that they give up others wrong thing one day because of prayers ..it don't take much to change hearts

Ahhh??? You are blessed. I have identical twin daugthers. They are my two pieces of my heart. It's been incredibly satisfying seeing these two peas in the pod grow. Now they are 11 and slight differantiation is taking place but the similiarity in behaviour, personality is amazing making me think that genes play huge role in who we are.

You are absolutely right . I share your feelings. I feel if every man treat his wife the way he treat his daughter then there will be no issue because heart of father is such loving, kind and tender toward daughter which is hard to describe in words. Birth of daughters change your personality completely as you become more tender, caring, responsible etc . My 3 year old daughters are identical but they look different boht in look and personality ..don't know why I was told that they are identical when they are totally opposite to each others. May Allah bless all daughters out there and bring happiness in their lives. Ameen

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Most people are doing taxi Job because they often fail to find any other decent job. You cannot get away with drunk people. If you are working in store and food chain, banks, hotels/restaurants, universities then you will be getting drunk customers as well. I do see take away get a lot of trouble because of drunk customers so then better sit at home if you are afraid of inhaling alcohol from drunk people . Even doctors and police has to deal with drunk people on daily basis. I often feel the smell from random drunk people walking on streets

Precisly. Which is why some sanity with this 'gelatin' has to be shown. These are trace elements and as much as inhaling traces of alcohol from a passer by or a fare in a taxi can be accomodated so can traces of gelatin.

 

[Tiberius]

We live in the 21st century and some people still fall for stuff like this?

I have news for you. Alcohol is evrywhere around you. You inhale it daily. You even eat it when you eat an apple.