Wow Awaam ko marnay do par bhutto zinda hai mentality
A change is way overdue! And if this continues the bottled frustration will not only be unleashed at one another but will be out of the hands of the police!
As for democracy, how or in what sense can this ever be called democracy? It is more an autocracy in the hands of a small list of people/ a small class of people!
It is far from a democracy....And your mentality that mar jain gay but democracy ka jhanda hila tay rahain gay!
Democracy, or democratic government, is "a system of government in which all the people of a state or polity ... are involved in making decisions about its affairs, typically by voting to elect representatives to a parliament or similar assembly," as defined by the Oxford English Dictionary.
Now when the representatives dont represent "ALL" but only a minority it is not a democracy and uplifting such an illusion is a poison!
Many bills in the West get public opinion.....And many require you to think before you give your opinion....When the brain dead parliamentarians are not even thinking, are not even representing 1% of our people.....How can you call it a democracy and why uplift this facade?
It's all too easy for folks to make a hue and cry about how God-awful their situation is, you list these things as if you're the first person to discover that they exist and the only person to perceive that they exist and that they are bad.
You think I don't think those women in your OP are worthless slobs who couldn't do a bit of damn reading to legitimize their presence in halls of government at the expense of the tax payer and debt on future earnings? Of course I do, so stop posting as if you really think I'm denying this or saying otherwise.
Change is needed, yes, sure, I say that and you say it. I spoke against abrupt revolutionary change that does NOTHING unless followed up by real reform, and in fact, so far I don't see it necessary.
Revolution is never a fix in itself. Take the military revolution people always are asking for, which by the context of these replies, I'm sure you support... when was the last time they intervened, and did it fix our problems then, and if so why are we here now talking about it, and if so how many times did the military try and do it for us?
If the answer to the above implies failure. Then one must question the sanity of anyone who asks for the same thing again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me once shame on me, fool me again and I'm almost as foolish as Pakistan's military revolution crowd.
It is not my belief that democracy should be kept come what may, however, the alternatives you've not yet dared given, I think if a viable alternative is available and if the situation needed, then fine.
So please...
Tell us what your fix is, if you are so adamant. Put your money where you vague statements are... tell us all exactly what your fix is.
Also what think you know about the history of democracy and what the actual history of democracy is and even it's current running are very different, this much I perceive from what you've said. Though I won't rant about that for now.
Can you also list where democracy has worked and the poeple have not suffered 1 drop of headache?!
Silly question. I can instead, as I was implying list you many examples where democracy has worked brilliantly, one example you can see in one of my flags. And God willing the other flag will one day be a similar example too.
alll this is fine and dandy till your own relatives/family perishes in revolution.. then it wont be funny anymore.
millions died in Mao's china, milions more in cambodia.
No, it's a fun little game we kiddies on our keyboards like to talk about. The worst part is, if the above is the way of demise of any of your loved ones, and through unnecessary and dangerous revolution the only result is nil or worse, then that struggle and life was in vain.
Change is fine, natural, massive change is also possible within the framework of democracy or a near enough system.
Too many idiots call for change, while simultaneously calling for a revolution, and calling for civil war, yet offer zilch in the way of what they mean to gain and how.
A pointless exercise in anger and blood, proved vain ere the end.
Better? When what we are practicing isnt even democracy it is feudal autocrat mindset...then how can you uplift democracy? Is that not a lie? Advertising something and holding onto a system that doesnt exist?
FIRST establish the system - establish a democracy than cry or analyse if it works or not...UNTIL THEN stop hiding behind a shadow!
So many posts, one after the other, in the same rant style layout. But no details or suggestion, any person in Pakistan can list you the problems he/she hears and sees around them. But what they can't do is give you a viable alternative, or justification for said alternative.
If your posts are hinting at something greater than just an attempt to assail the status quo, which every human on earth does, tell us your thoughts.
Unfortunately that is cost of revolution however that is the only Path that will make Pakistan in to progressive society in world
Che and Castro's revolution in Cuba was mere 100-200 people at its birth but they believed in that change and people of Cuba were with him
Mostly Pakistan , and its citizens have become "Accepting" if this slavery that has been imposed on they , which is called Democracy
Just after elections ended prices of all commodities increased
This Pakistani building , where all these corrupt officials go daily to eat Tea, buscuit and spend 1 lakhn on daily expenses , how many Revolutionary will it take to clean house ?
May be not even 20 people all it takes is 20 revolutionaries to clean house in Parliament
All these politicians that sit in Parliament
a) Get free home
b) Get paid expense for home rent
c) Get free food and commute grants daily
d) Get free commodities
e) Get free loans and cheap loans which get waived with time
Some people estimated that on average 1 Lakh is given daily for their "Common expenses"
water bottles , their driver , their daily meal and dinner expenses
While we have Earth Quake in country , and the TV channels of these political parties are busy coverying marrige news and showing bhnagra bazi for elections
In 50-60's 70's my parents told me there were no politicians on TV , because we had state TV channel that gave every one equal coverage or no coverage , these politicians used to Pay Pakistani channel money to be on TV time for 20-30 min segments
Now their channels are busy with Propaganda 24 hours a day
Pakistan does not need these talk shows , these tajziya nigar or analyst , we need Revolution to pull these politicians out of Parliment and to the street and burned
This is what we need
We need US like Rebellion / Civil war
Because , value of democracy is not understood unless there is civil war
It took 150+ years of hardship of the two listed countries before they became what they are. And through democracy they got it. Long term political stability, women's suffrage, civil rights movements, expansion of the state brought these countries to where they are.
France didn't become like it is today by chopping Marie Antoinette's head off her shoulders and the US didn't become the superpower it is because it took part in a war killing so many.
They struggled on with their respective systems, making changes, gradually, building up to where it is, not going back to zero if it fails.
