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https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...for-annexation-of-parts-of-occupied-west-bank

By TRACY WILKINSON |STAFF WRITER
MAY 12, 2020
8:17 AM



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Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo, left, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in April 2018.
(Thomas Coex / Pool)


WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo headed to Jerusalem on Tuesday to bolster besieged Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and bestow a U.S. blessing on his country’s proposed de facto annexation of West Bank land claimed by Palestinians.

The visit coincides with Netanyahu’s formation of a new coalition government following his indictment on criminal corruption charges and several inconclusive Israeli elections that failed to deliver power to either Netanyahu or his rival.

It is the first high-level U.S. visit to Israel since President Trump in January unveiled his long-anticipated plan for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — a pro-Israel proposal that was roundly rejected by Palestinians, who were not included in its drafting, as well as most of the Arab world.

To avoid what would have been the fourth national election in a little over a year, Netanyahu and his chief rival, retired army Gen. Benny Gantz, agreed to share power for the next several years. The agreement could clear the way for the new government to extend Israeli sovereignty over large parts of the occupied West Bank, which Palestinians want for a future independent state.

Israel seized the land during the 1967 Middle East War and proceeded to build scores of Jewish settlements, now housing hundreds of thousands of Israelis. The settlements are widely considered illegal under international law.

“We’re glad that there is a now fully formed government in Israel,” Pompeo said ahead of the trip. “As for the annexation in the West Bank, the Israelis will ultimately make those decisions.”

Many believe annexation will be the final nail in the coffin of the two-state solution, the long-cherished notion that creating a Palestinian state alongside Israel would be the best formula for a peaceful end to one of the most intractable conflicts in the Middle East. It would make it much harder to dismantle some Jewish settlements, as had been envisioned in some past peace plans.

The Trump administration, reversing decades of U.S. foreign policy, is ready to welcome Israel’s unilateral annexation of the Jewish settlements, despite fierce opposition by Palestinians, senior U.S. officials said. Pompeo’s visit seems designed to give that approval.

“There’s always a lot to talk about with the Israelis,” assistant secretary of State for the Near East, David Schenker, said when asked about the timing of the trip. “I think it’s fortuitous timing, but this was something that was in the works before we learned of the date of the government formation.”

Under the Trump plan, Israel would also be allowed to take control of the Jordan Valley, the section of the West Bank along the Jordan River and abutting Jordan.

Critics, including many Israelis and U.S. lawmakers, say unilateral annexation will have numerous dangerous ramifications, including damage to long-standing peace treaties that Israel has with Jordan and Egypt, the only neighbors who recognize its existence.

It could also undermine the already-weak Palestinian Authority, the leadership of West Bank Palestinians that has refused to even speak to the Trump administration after its various pro-Israel moves, including the transfer of the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem — a city also claimed by the Palestinians as their capital.

The Trump plan would leave a Swiss-cheese patchwork of Palestinian villages that most experts say could not form a viable state. Critics say annexation would also accentuate the inequities between Jewish settlers and Palestinians, all of whom will continue to live under Israeli control in the West Bank.

“This will be the end of the idea of Israel as a Jewish democratic state and it will be an apartheid state,” said Shaul Arieli, a retired Israeli army colonel and part of a group of former military officials who seek peace with the Palestinians.

The Trump administration has provided “a good umbrella” for Netanyahu and pro-settlement advocates to push away from compromise with the Palestinians, he said.

“Israel can do almost everything it wants,” said Arieli, also a senior advisor to two-state advocate Israel Policy Forum. “Only the U.S. has leverage on Israel, and if they are on [Israel’s] side, the right wing can do everything it wants to cancel the viability of a two-state solution.”

The U.S. ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, has said that the U.S. would recognize annexation “within weeks.”

Pompeo will also use his brief time in Israel to discuss Iran. Since Trump pulled out of the international Iran nuclear deal, Iran has continued to build up its proxies in the region, some of which, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, are seen by Israel as particular threats.

Pompeo “is making this trip because he recognizes the United States and Israel have much to learn from each other as we address current threats, whether those threats stem from a global pandemic or from Iran’s malign regional influence,” Schenker said.

Pompeo will spend barely eight hours on the ground in Israel. His only other international travel since the coronavirus outbreak was a similarly brief trip to Afghanistan in February when the U.S., the Afghan government and the Taliban were attempting to reach agreement on a cease-fire in the United States’ longest war.
 
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The beginning of the end of any peace process.
Sir, would it be right to say US is equally responsible for the war crimes Israel has committed against Palestine since US has been supporting all the expansionist policies of Israel?
 
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Sir, would it be right to say US is equally responsible for the war crimes Israel has committed against Palestine since US has been supporting all the expansionist policies of Israel?
No, it would not be right to say that. Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it. If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future. It's not complicated. Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces. They need to accept defeat. If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population. The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.
 
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Sir, would it be right to say US is equally responsible for the war crimes Israel has committed against Palestine since US has been supporting all the expansionist policies of Israel?

Every thing in Israeli Military inventory either originates or built with US financing so yes they are equally responsible for the repeated massacres of Palestinian people. UK and US enabled the annexation of Palestinian lands by Israel and helped them against Arab coalition during Arab Israeli war. US has high stake in Israel as it holds a strategic location against all Arabs states. Couple that with fact that Israel made huge investment in Trump for him to win elections due to Jewish background of his family.
 
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No, it would not be right to say that. Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it. If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future. It's not complicated. Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces. They need to accept defeat. If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population. The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.
So says the mighty.....My way or the high way.
 
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No, it would not be right to say that. Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it. If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future. It's not complicated. Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces. They need to accept defeat. If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population. The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/Pages/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=24226&LangID=E


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...mitted-war-crimes-report-190318105931161.html

https://thewire.in/world/israel-is-finally-being-investigated-for-war-crimes

Sir your analysis is wrong or biased from the start of your comment. So I have shared few links in response to your claims.
 
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Funny how a massacred population triples in population

Guess we didn't massacre them enough

It is all out there as a matter of record. Do you have any supporters left apart from Donald Trump? Even EU backed out from your support. Funny how people who portrayed themselves as victims of genocide ended up the same as their oppressors. Now you people move from forum to forum regretting how you didnt kill enough of Muslims. Few more comments and you Israelis reel back to your original self gloating about how many you killed.
 
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Sir, would it be right to say US is equally responsible for the war crimes Israel has committed against Palestine since US has been supporting all the expansionist policies of Israel?
Not equally, but responsible regardless.


IS this what Arab nationalism got Arab Palestinians???? Ha ha ha ha hah (soon 1 particular Ethno-supremacist on this group will come here to tell us how the Arabs are a super power race).

Arab nationalism seems to now mean the opposite of what it did before - it now means collaborating with Israel to the max extent if you're an Arab country, but probably hide it from your public's eyes.

No, it would not be right to say that
fairly and accurately, this is correct.
Israel has not committed any war crimes.
Ouch. this is a naive, unethical,biased comment. Once again, i'm only surprised when you dont surprise me. so this is normal. lool.
The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation
They can and have. Can ISrael do the same for Palestinians? u and i know the answer is no, thats why Israel keeps stealing land, under the guise of "settlements".
and stop all acts of terrorism against it.
They can stop all of them TODAY, if they will get their fair rights and demands and reparations. WIll Israel pay them fairly for all they deserve? once again, you and i know the answer is no. Israel, with US support, has abused Palestinians into slavery and apartheid conditions.

If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future.
Victim blaming. u dont deserve that badge, u prove that over and over.

It's not complicated.
Then why has peace been elusive for over half a decade? YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE BRO so u should probably stay away from this type of thread. wow.

Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces.
But they didnt lose the legitimacy of their claims against the racist, Apartheid ISraeli govt. Even US Jews know Israel's treatment of Palestinians is wrong, thats where ISraeli and US Jews disagree. I'm proud of US Jews for that stand!

They need to accept defeat.
You're the one who accepted defeat. Palestinians cant accept defeat...not after losing all their life, land, ORGANS and possessions
If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population.
They want to do that, but can it be done fairly??? you speak as if Palestinians and Israelis live in a vacuum, what a warped way of understanding that sad situation you have no real heart and empathy.
The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.
lies, because in over 50 years of this mess, US couldnt bring true peace...and US is so frustrated about its failures, it just told iSraelis to go ahead and STEAL THE LAND..lmaoo.
 
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Muslims have many countries, why cant the arabs just accept the Palestinian people in their lands and build houses/businesses for them to avoid conflicts man.

For a Religion which pushes so much for not causing corruption on land sure are greedy fuvks.

Im in America, and trust me I thank God I have a country I can call home, the Jews are still Allah's creations let them have their land as long as there is free access to Al-Aqsa Mosque for all Muslims.

Lo! as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they wrong themselves, (the angels) will ask: In what were ye engaged? They will say: We were oppressed in the land. (The angels) will say: Was not Allah's earth spacious that ye could have migrated therein? As for such, their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end;


kashmir is different,, while pakistan would welcome Kashmiris with open hearts, the land is a necessity for the survival of our nation.
 
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No, it would not be right to say that. Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it. If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future. It's not complicated. Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces. They need to accept defeat. If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population. The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.

What do you guys notice in this post? Any similarity with RSS Hindutva rhetoric? Basically all this post demands is for the Palestinians to be slaves of Zionists and accept the landgrabbing. All under the garb of Palestinians are terrorists. This theme has become too familiar and indeed the Americans are masters of it.

LOL at the peaceful democracy preaching. Thugs who condone daylight robbery are preaching others about democracy and peace.

The irony here is that I don't even care about what an American has to say. An American is just acting like an American. No surprise here whatsoever.

Where are all the Arab nations? This is mindboggling. When your own blood abandons you in time of need who else can you rely on?
 
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It is all out there as a matter of record. Do you have any supporters left apart from Donald Trump? Even EU backed out from your support. Funny how people who portrayed themselves as victims of genocide ended up the same as their oppressors. Now you people move from forum to forum regretting how you didnt kill enough of Muslims. Few more comments and you Israelis reel back to your original self gloating about how many you killed.
Keep giving yourself a false sense of winning.
 
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During the Coronavirus pandemic? :lol:

Why are they in a rush? And why during Ramadan?

The beginning of the end of any peace process.

That's what needs to happen, no more wasted time, time to get to the point. Everyone in the region now needs to decide what will happen with the Palestinian people.

Are they going to get Israeli citizenship or a state or will Israel simply embark on another 20 year campaign of settlement building in left over Palestinian territory and then annex it in the future as well.

All those suggesting there is a peace process are part of problem and wasting everyone's time.

Muslims have many countries, why cant the arabs just accept the Palestinian people in their lands and build houses/businesses for them to avoid conflicts man.

For a Religion which pushes so much for not causing corruption on land sure are greedy fuvks.

Im in America, and trust me I thank God I have a country I can call home, the Jews are still Allah's creations let them have their land as long as there is free access to Al-Aqsa Mosque for all Muslims.

Lo! as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they wrong themselves, (the angels) will ask: In what were ye engaged? They will say: We were oppressed in the land. (The angels) will say: Was not Allah's earth spacious that ye could have migrated therein? As for such, their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end;


kashmir is different,, while pakistan would welcome Kashmiris with open hearts, the land is a necessity for the survival of our nation.

Not all Palestinians are Muslim, there are a lot of Christian Palestinians and irreligious ones. Muslims are not going to do anything for them, they need to remain in their land and establish themselves there. Either a state or Israeli citizenship.
 
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