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Pompeo travels to Israel to give U.S. blessing to annexation of West Bank land

One can say that the well-beign of palestenians is a good measure of the state of the umah, the collective Islam.

If the palestenians are doing well then that means the Umah is strong and doing well, if the palestenians are miserable then so is the Umah.

These are hard times, we stand to lose much more than just palestine, no muslim nation should delude itself... we are all a target.
 
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During the Coronavirus pandemic? :lol:

Why are they in a rush? And why during Ramadan?



That's what needs to happen, no more wasted time, time to get to the point. Everyone in the region now needs to decide what will happen with the Palestinian people.

Are they going to get Israeli citizenship or a state or will Israel simply embark on another 20 year campaign of settlement building in left over Palestinian territory and then annex it in the future as well.

All those suggesting there is a peace process are part of problem and wasting everyone's time.



Not all Palestinians are Muslim, there are a lot of Christian Palestinians and irreligious ones. Muslims are not going to do anything for them, they need to remain in their land and establish themselves there. Either a state or Israeli citizenship.

Bro, do you accept Trump proposal ? Getting recognition as sovereign state from both Israel and USA in the expense of Jerusalem and some land in West Bank ?
 
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Bro, do you accept Trump proposal ? Getting recognition as sovereign state from both Israel and USA in the expense of Jerusalem and some land in West Bank ?

It's not Trump's proposal, he hasn't studied the details of the conflict and originally he wanted a two state solution based off 1967 borders. Then lots of lobbyist groups went out of their way to change that and allow Kushner, Friedman, Greenblatt and others to handle this portfolio. So really its Jewish-American guys proposal that work with and are close friends with Israeli gov't. They will attribute to Trump and let him receive brunt of public backlash but in reality it is and will remain a Jewish-American proposal and the Jewish-Americans will be held responsible for it.

I do not accept it but I'd rather have them move ahead with their plans so PA, neighboring regions and international community no longer can stall the process and ignore serious questions.
 
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Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it.

What rubbish, since when were the Palestinians 'terrorists' in their own land, and how did the occupiers become the 'legitimate' people, You clearly had too much to drink, take a step back from the keyboard mate, try again when your sober. This is probably the most insensitive comment I ever came across on PDF.. I guess ignorance is bliss
 
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It's not Trump's proposal, he hasn't studied the details of the conflict and originally he wanted a two state solution based off 1967 borders. Then lots of lobbyist groups went out of their way to change that and allow Kushner, Friedman, Greenblatt and others to handle this portfolio. So really its Jewish-American guys proposal that work with and are close friends with Israeli gov't. They will attribute to Trump and let him receive brunt of public backlash but in reality it is and will remain a Jewish-American proposal and the Jewish-Americans will be held responsible for it.

I do not accept it but I'd rather have them move ahead with their plans so PA, neighboring regions and international community no longer can stall the process and ignore serious questions.

Is that true that Kushner is a Jew ?
 
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Good for Hamas. Bad news for PA. Hamas will argue that they are the best representative's of Palestinians. I am suprised usa is weakening Palestinian Authority.
 
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Keep giving yourself a false sense of winning.
Actually, i think its Israel giving itself a false sense of winning...stealing land, suppressing Palestinians...ISrael HOPES it doesnt backfire in the future, but it most likely will. Good luck. I hope you fake dome saves u.
 
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Actually, i think its Israel giving itself a false sense of winning...stealing land, suppressing Palestinians...ISrael HOPES it doesnt backfire in the future, but it most likely will. Good luck. I hope you fake dome saves u.
Israel is acting, while its enemies are just talking.

It is not a fucking worldcup only an Israeli would actually call killing innocent people winning.
You said it, not me

You are a scolded bunch. God is never going to be on your side. That much is certain.
I think God will decide it for himself, he doesn't need your approval.
 
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Good for Hamas. Bad news for PA. Hamas will argue that they are the best representative's of Palestinians. I am suprised usa is weakening Palestinian Authority.
The result of who is better between PA an Hamas, IS CLEAR: PA has gotten 0 for all their "nonviolence" @TruthSeeker can you show us what nonviolent Palestinian AUthority has gotten(other than West bank's pending annexation) for being "PEACEFUL" with Israel and US? the stupid blockhead Kushner deal was soo bad, PA had to cut relations with Israel and US over it.

Hamas remains 2 things : 1) the most continuous largest, occupied piece of Palestinian land that Israel hasnt been able to "mince and dice" up into oblivion and 2) THe most capable Palestinian militant group- Israel can say they are nothing compared to IDF,but if Hamas is so weak, why doesnt IDF send men into Gaza? because they will die there.

at the end of the day, non-violent PA hasnt received even the same level of dignity, respect, deterrence effect as Hamas has vis-a-vis Israel. You hate to see it..
 
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I can't help but wonder what if the Palestinians had just accepted the 1948 partition proposal?
 
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No, it would not be right to say that. Israel has not committed any war crimes. The Palestinians need to accept Israel as a legitimate nation and stop all acts of terrorism against it. If they would do that there would be peace and Palestinians would have a future. It's not complicated. Palestinian forces lost their war against Israeli forces. They need to accept defeat. If they want to try to regain political control of territory now controlled by the Israeli government they need to do it by peaceful participation in a democratic government and by the demographics of their future population. The USA would support that approach to the resolution of the conflict.
respected sir,
I would've had no problem with your argument if you had said that state of Israel did to the Palestinians because it was stronger and might is right. State of Israel did whatever it has done since its inspection because they are the chosen one, the children of god and that's the will of god of Israel.

I am not an antisemitic. so I dare say this that if repeatedly bombing and raiding Palestinian refugee camps is not a war crime then give the bombers Nobel peace prizes. state of Israel has done this even in the presence of UN peace troops even without provocations. Palestinians had no say in the Holocaust. they were in no position to stop the Allies from bringing Jews into Middle east after WW2.

there was no war. just a culling as the armed settlers arrived and started wiping out the Palestinians. yes there have been wars ever since and now state of Israel is a reality which even some Muslim Arab states have accepted and now pushing or punishing the Israelis out for Palestinians would be wrong too as two wrongs don't make a right. just like Punishing Palestinians for the crimes of Nazi party was never right. Palestinians were a weaker party and yes they have suffered for the wrongs that the Jews suffered at the hands of German Nazis.

it would've been great that a piece of Germany was carved out for the Jews and a Jewish state was setup there to punish the Germans for their genocidal crimes. but some geniuses decided to setup a state in the promised land. I wonder who would can repeat that good deed for the Apache Indians too. A precedent is set here no?

so what about now? I agree that there has to be a peaceful solution. Palestinians must stop their hostilities like stop throwing stones to Israeli Armored vehicles and in return the Israelis must also stop new settlements into Palestinian areas. it sucks to be weak and its really difficult to be fair when enjoying absolute power and unqualified support from the west.
 
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Israel is acting, while its enemies are just talking.

Here you go i knew you would come around to your real self. I have talked to enough Israelis Zionists to know when you people are trying to fake it. Keep true to yourself in future as you are the real spawns of hitler never regret your heritage.
 
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