"Police waale tang karain to seedha fire karna" - Zulfiqar Mirza to his guard

[parkour guy]

hahahahah Untouchable , son of the soils lolz

well i am waiting for Rangers to Raid his house or Farm house in Badeen, or maybe Badeen is not Part of Sindh , or maybe Rangers dont have enough balls to enter that Areas , their Power and Mardangi can only been seen on Unarmed Citizen of Karachi of a Particular Party

No doubt Badeen is very dangerous area.during general zia rule my grandfather went their and he was kidnapped and placed inside a coal mountain to work.well their story of escaping is also thrilling but not more than badeen itself.

 

[TankMan]

first tell me who make you a Think Tank ??

Why, can't Think Tanks disagree with MQM?
I was one of the winners in the PDF writing competition. If you have a problem with that, talk to @Slav Defence , @Horus or @WebMaster

have you see any MQM worker holding a weapon

Yes.

pointing at Ranger ?

They don't have the guts to do it to the rangers, only to innocent citizens.

plus these weapons as Rangers say are from NATO , and USA and NATO deny any weapons stolen from their Containers , so again Busted Lie ..

This point is worthless. They are NATO-grade weapons. It doesn't matter if they were stolen from containers or taken off dead NATO soldiers or grown on trees in 9-0, they are illegal military-grade weapons and they were found in MQM's HQ.

tell me how many MQM workers have attack the Rangers HQ or Police Station ?

Attacking police vans is enough. They don't have the guts or strength to take on the Rangers at their HQ.
Five MQM men get life term for attacking police van - thenews.com.pk

have you see MQM ministers with a Armed Mob rushing into Police station threatening to shoot police officers on Point blank range ?

No. But I've seen MQM's leader threaten to torture and murder a journalist on live TV.

At least you've made it clear - in the opinion of MQM supporters like you, MQM and Law Enforcement can not co-exist.

I'd take Law Enforcement over a borderline fascist anti-Pakistan political party with a leader who lives in London but doesn't have any manners or sense of respect, doesn't think before he speaks and calls the creation of Pakistan ''the biggest blunder in history''.

the Rangers spokesman first say we dont carry Pistols and later it was proves that they have Pistols as side Arms

No, this is a lie.
The Rangers Spokesman mentioned a specific model of pistol - the .30 bore TT pistol, which they actually do not carry as their sidearms are either 9mms or .45s.

b) Waqas was shot only at distance of few Feet's of Rangers Convoey , and our so called brave rangers dont even come close to rescue the guy

How about you go join the Law Enforcement and go around saving guys while being surrounded by a mob, if it's that easy, you shouldn't have any problem.
If you watch the video, you'll see that Waqas was killed suddenly, in a split second. Nobody could have stopped that bullet.
But Maybe you MQM people are all farishtay who can stop bullets, so like I said, you should join the law enforcement since you'll obviously do a lot better than normal human beings.

so to me , they are exit from the " Mardangi list " if they cant protect us , they should stand on Traffic Signals, wearing Women clothes and Bangles and dance ...

So now some armchair soldier will lecture our military on ''mardangi''. They have the guts to stand in the line of fire - their mardangi is already infinitely greater.

Shameful.

Iss tarah ki behuuda bakwaas ke illava MQM ke paas aur kuch nahi. Jaisa rehnuma, waisa supporter. Qatil ki video footage maujood hai aur iss ke jawab me aap ''mardangi'' ki baat kar rahe hain. Baat kar ke sharam aati.

None of your argument even addressed the video. Bits and pieces and victim complex ridden rants is all you have. I'm done with this, don't reply unless you have an actual refutation.

 

[rockstar08]

Why, can't Think Tanks disagree with MQM?
I was one of the winners in the PDF writing competition. If you have a problem with that, talk to

First i would say that RIP to the PDF for having such TT's in their site ..
secondly i dont have any problem , nor i want to discuss they can make you TT or even mod, thats their site not mine .

Yes.

Please show me ? and dont come up with some old Video or new , i am talking about the specific raid on 90. which was conducted Recently ....

They don't have the guts to do it to the rangers, only to innocent citizens.

MQM has criminal Elements same as Police , Rangers have their quota of criminals among them ..
and yeah you are right majority people in MQM dont have Guts , to fight .. because they are from Sophisticated Bckground , unlike other Pakistani Ethinicities , in which AK is their Jewels ..

This point is worthless. They are NATO-grade weapons. It doesn't matter if they were stolen from containers or taken off dead NATO soldiers or grown on trees in 9-0, they are illegal military-grade weapons and they were found in MQM's HQ.

so just because it does not suit your tiny ego , so it become Pointless lolz learn to have debate , than call yourself a TT buddy ... US has denied that MQM steal any weapons , and Rangers Claim that these weapons were from Allied forces , so your Rangers credibility is no less than saulat mirza talking about used as a Tissue paper ..

Attacking police vans is enough. They don't have the guts or strength to take on the Rangers at their HQ.
Five MQM men get life term for attacking police van - thenews.com.pk

so does this make the whole Party criminal ? lol what a retard logic is this ? PMLN workers storm the Supreme court as well now go and tell your Rangers to grow some Balls and arrest the PM

No, this is a lie.
The Rangers Spokesman mentioned a specific model of pistol - the .30 bore TT pistol, which they actually do not carry as their sidearms are either 9mms or .45s.

yeah yeah sirf ap hi ek Sacche ho janab duniya tu jhooti hai lolz

How about you go join the Law Enforcement and go around saving guys while being surrounded by a mob, if it's that easy, you shouldn't have any problem.
If you watch the video, you'll see that Waqas was killed suddenly, in a split second. Nobody could have stopped that bullet.
But Maybe you MQM people are all farishtay who can stop bullets, so like I said, you should join the law enforcement since you'll obviously do a lot better than normal human beings.

hahahaha so you stoop to that level ? if Civilians have to take the Duty of LEA than why are they taking their Salary for ? hahaah so i guess my suggestion was right , that they should wear " Choriyan " and go and stand on Signals .. right ?
if i have to defend myself from Criminals ..
now , listen and listen carefully .. a kid was shot dead in front of your brave soldiers , they were all equipped , in numbers and the mob was not even violent , they can at least try to hold that guy , or try to do anything , they did nothing , it is pathetic behavior from Rangers ,and you still did not reply to case of that guy who was unarmed and shot dead by rangers in Park ...
MQM people are not Farishte , but Rangers are not holy persons as well ... so stop worshiping them blindly ..

So now some armchair soldier will lecture our military on ''mardangi''. They have the guts to stand in the line of fire - their mardangi is already infinitely greater.

Shameful.

Iss tarah ki behuuda bakwaas ke illava MQM ke paas aur kuch nahi. Jaisa rehnuma, waisa supporter. Qatil ki video footage maujood hai aur iss ke jawab me aap ''mardangi'' ki baat kar rahe hain. Baat kar ke sharam aati.

None of your argument even addressed the video. Bits and pieces and victim complex ridden rants is all you have. I'm done with this, don't reply unless you have an actual refutation.

yeah i have all the right to say what ever i want ... i cant be a blind follower like majority in Pakistan , i am neutral ... i dont hate anyone like you do blindly ...
you do know that it was failure of our own country men that lead people like AH to come into power ? if you supress certain people than one day they rise for their rights , when they ask you with peace you give them nothing but torture and beating , example , Bangladesh ...
now i have see their guts, staying Karachi for more than 2 decades , getting bhatta , becoming Haad Haram , lolz they are not new in Karachi , they failed to bring peace in Karachi and let people die .. they were under political pressure ..
still they have no balls to raid Bilawal house or Arrest Zardari ..

i am not representative of MQM or any Party , i am just giving you my opinion here , but yeah for fools like you i am a Rabta comity member lolz
talking about Footage , there is the footage of that guy who was killed in Park , its also on Social media , please watch it..

and i have seen enough mardangi of our LEA in 1992 operation killing and touture of unarmed civilians , drilling and killing 10,000 + people without any investigation and all .. so yeah i rather be a na mard instead of been a mard who kill innocent ... at least people wont call me a killer or murderer in Uniform .

 

[Donatello]

We can tolerate him, because he is hell bent on taking down a Person who is ever more disgusting than himself.

If we are to compare both Zulfiqar Mirza and Asif Ali Zardari, Mirza looks like an Angel. I really hope he succeeds in taking down the menace that we call Asif Ali Zardari.

You really believe that?

He is the planted muppet of Zardari. Like a dog who can be unleashed upon demand.....to keep the jahil population busy finding out what's gonna happen next, so that the hunger, starvation, thirst and illiteracy that is killing them, doesn't seem so bad.

I mean, last time he came out with 'breaking news' stuff against Rehman Malik.......and what happened then? Did Rehman Malik lose his clout or anything? We saw that in the PIA-VIP flight case on this very forum.

A man as cunning as Zardari will eat Mirza for breakfast. Wolves have a better chance at surviving the unfair world if they get just a part of Zardari's DNA.

 

[Hurter]

Zulfiqar mirza himself is a goon. The only difference is that he is not with Zardari anymore.

 

[TankMan]

First i would say that RIP to the PDF for having such TT's in their site ..

''Such TTs''? TTs who happen to be critical of a political party? Personal attacks means you have lost the debate.

so does this make the whole Party criminal ?

No. The party can disown these criminals. But the party didn't. Instead, the party preferred to defend them and play the victims. The party also preferred to incite people against the state and constantly oppose any Law Enforcement whatsoever. That is what makes the whole party guilty.

Please show me ? and dont come up with some old Video or new , i am talking about the specific raid on 90. which was conducted Recently ....

so just because it does not suit your tiny ego , so it become Pointless lolz learn to have debate , than call yourself a TT buddy ... US has denied that MQM steal any weapons , and Rangers Claim that these weapons were from Allied forces , so your Rangers credibility is no less than saulat mirza talking about used as a Tissue paper ..

My ego? Personal attacks again. Yes, I call myself a TT. Compared to you, I am exemplary. Deal with it.

US has denied that MQM stole weapons from NATO containers. But the US never denied that those weapons exist, were found in nine-zero, are military grade and are illegal.

MQM had Illegal, military grade weapons. It doesn't matter where they came from, they are there. Rangers don't have credibility? They have video footage of the raid. They found weapons hidden inside cupboards.

Now you'll say media doesn't have any credibility. But doesn't matter what you say, there's the footage. MQM had illegal weapons in nine-zero. There is no doubt about that and never was any doubt about that.

If you want to attack my ego, my title or anything related to me personally, just be honest and say you lost the argument.

yeah yeah sirf ap hi ek Sacche ho janab duniya tu jhooti hai lolz

Pehle kehte ho tasweerain jhooti hain, rangers jhootay hain, media jhooti hai, fauj jhooti hai, video footage jhooti hai, aur phir duniya ki baat karte ho. Pooray Pakistan ko jhoota karrar de diya. Aur konsi dunya reh gayi?

lol what a retard

@Horus @waz @Jungibaaz @WebMaster @Slav Defence
Please handle these insults or I am going to respond in kind.

 

[waz]

Keep the insults away please.

 

[rockstar08]

''Such TTs''? TTs who happen to be critical of a political party? Personal attacks means you have lost the debate.

yeah such TT's , why you feel offended ? you can call an entire party terrorist and rise question i cant rise question on your TT's title ? kia yeh khula tazaad nai

No. The party can disown these criminals. But the party didn't. Instead, the party preferred to defend them and play the victims. The party also preferred to incite people against the state and constantly oppose any Law Enforcement whatsoever. That is what makes the whole party guilty.

MQM has disowned the criminals many times , its just that your blind hate is not letting you see that ..

again posted a picture of weapon ? dude are you ok ? let me ask in urdu ..
Bhai mujhe picture ya Video dekho , jis mai MQM ke workers Rangers ke samne Gun le ker khare hai , aur openly unko threat ker rahe hai , jaise Zulfiqar mirza ne apne guards ko bola , thook dena police ko , aur ek aur baat , mai 90 pe hone wali haalia raid ki baat ker raha hun .... Ab samjhe ?

US has denied that MQM stole weapons from NATO containers. But the US never denied that those weapons exist, were found in nine-zero, are military grade and are illegal.

MQM had Illegal, military grade weapons. It doesn't matter where they came from, they are there. Rangers don't have credibility? They have video footage of the raid. They found weapons hidden inside cupboards.

the point was that rangers lie was busted , when they say MQM stole weapons from NATO containers , so why should i believe them ? yeah MQM can buy those weapons from Black market but tell me why Rangers say that we recover weapons from 90 , but we dont know that either they are stolen from NATO or somewhere else ,. there accusation sounds like they stole weapons from NATO containers and plant them in 90 to prove their point .... you never know things can be different from what we see ..

Now you'll say media doesn't have any credibility. But doesn't matter what you say, there's the footage. MQM had illegal weapons in nine-zero. There is no doubt about that and never was any doubt about that.

If you want to attack my ego, my title or anything related to me personally, just be honest and say you lost the argument.

dude , i never learn to lost so yeah trust me i will never stand down from my argument when i know i am not wrong ..
and 90 is full of MQM supporters if all are terrorist and criminals , your rangers would never even go inside , like they cant go inside liyari lolz ..if MQM wants to use the weapons , they could have but MQM is a Political party , with some criminal elements and a Chutiya leader ... but majority of MQM workers are Patriots and they love Pakistan as much as you and i do ..

Pehle kehte ho tasweerain jhooti hain, rangers jhootay hain, media jhooti hai, fauj jhooti hai, video footage jhooti hai, aur phir duniya ki baat karte ho. Pooray Pakistan ko jhoota karrar de diya. Aur konsi dunya reh gayi?

kis ne ? lol you are completely in denial mode , i told you that Rangers have used Pistols , than their lie of stolen US weapons , than waqas was shot in front of them , and the guy who was shot in park ( which you are avoiding i suppose ) ..
no one is sachaa in Pakistan , everyone is a liar , everyone lie when the need arise , even our heavenly Army and its Generals

you can insult a entire Political party and millions of people by calling them Criminals and Terrorist but if someone show you the mirror , you run for other mods ?
dude should i remind you that you are also a TT ( unfortunately )

Keep the insults away please.

peace

 

[TankMan]

you can call an entire party terrorist and rise question

No, I call many of the party's actions to be illegal. I'm sure it's full of innocent normal people and activists, but the bad is always more prominent than the good.

MQM has disowned the criminals many times , its just that your blind hate is not letting you see that ..

Oh I'm sure they've disowned criminals many times - but not without the obligatory remarks about how big victims they are, thus implying that the criminals are actually affiliated to them. So, they disown the criminals but then defend them at the same time by bringing up conspiracy theories and the usual rhetoric. Doublethink, in essence.

''Blind hate'' isn't needed for someone to dislike MQM. Eyes-wide-open criticism is just as good.

Bhai mujhe picture ya Video dekho , jis mai MQM ke workers Rangers ke samne Gun le ker khare hai , aur openly unko threat ker rahe hai

Almariyon se nikalne ka waqt nahi mila ho ga, raid surprise thi. Illegal weapons were found inside MQM's headquarters, they're illegal even if you don't point them at someone.

jaise Zulfiqar mirza ne apne guards ko bola , thook dena police ko , aur ek aur baat , mai 90 pe hone wali haalia raid ki baat ker raha hun .... Ab samjhe ?

Challo phir yeh kya baat hui? Aise to jo marzi kar lo, phir bolo ke koi aur iss se bhi burra kar raha hai. Aise to Taliban ko bhi justify kar sakte hain, bas bolo Hitler ne un se ziyada log maare the.

90 pe hone wali raid me MQM ki jaib waale police afsar nahi the, Zulfiqar Mirza apne purane chamcho se badmaashi kar raha tha. Aasman zamiin ka farq hai.

the point was that rangers lie was busted , when they say MQM stole weapons from NATO containers , so why should i believe them ? yeah MQM can buy those weapons from Black market but tell me why Rangers say that we recover weapons from 90 , but we dont know that either they are stolen from NATO or somewhere else ,. there accusation sounds like they stole weapons from NATO containers and plant them in 90 to prove their point .... you never know things can be different from what we see ..

Acha lie busted lie busted, mujhe aik baat batao; kya aap ne woh video dekhi? Because if you watched the video of the Rangers officer talking, you will realize that there was no lie and nothing was busted.

All of this rhetoric of yours is MQM propaganda and nothing more.

Here's what the Rangers officer said:

''Yeh waale hathyaar Pakistan me ban hain, NATO-grade hain, humein abhi pata nahi yeh kahan se aaye. Mera zaati khayal yeh hai ke NATO container se churaye gaye hain lekin hum tafteesh kar ke pata lagain ge''.

All he said was that these are NATO-grade weapons that are illegal in Pakistan and he thought some might have been stolen from NATO containers, especially the ones with Silencers on them.

The officer made a very responsible and clear statement but MQM's propagandists twisted it into something else entirely. He never said they're definitely stolen by MQM from NATO containers. He said they could have been, at some point, stolen. That includes black market munitions, since they're usually either stolen or looted from dead soldiers.

tell me why Rangers say that we recover weapons from 90 , but we dont know that either they are stolen from NATO or somewhere else ,. there accusation sounds like they stole weapons from NATO containers and plant them in 90 to prove their point .... you never know things can be different from what we see ..

Tell you why? It's their job. It's their job to investigate where the weapons came from. They didn't make any accusation. Watch the video again. The ranger did not say ''MQM stole the weapons''. He said some might have been stolen NATO weapons.

Ok so you think the rangers stole NATO weapons - but wait a minute; didn't the US say no weapons were recently stolen from NATO containers? So then how did the rangers steal them? Double standards much?

When it comes to MQM '' no no no, the US denied it'' but then when it comes to accusing the rangers ''oh they must have stolen them from NATO and planted them''
Shameful double standards.

By the way the footage shows that the rangers came in, searched the area and then found weapons inside a cupboard. So if they planted them, that means they came in before the raid, opened the cupboards, shoved in fifty dozen weapons, and nobody in the whole nine-zero noticed.

Unless they are working with jinns, that is impossible.

90 is full of MQM supporters if all are terrorist and criminals , your rangers would never even go inside , like they cant go inside liyari lolz

Oh they can't go inside lyari? What's this then?

Dunya News: Pakistan:-Karachi: 40 more suspects arrested from Lyari...
And how do they keep arresting Lyari gangsters if they never go into Lyari?
Oh and ''lolz'', let's distort facts about about violence, crime and terrorism that has killed thousands of our countrymen by putting a ''lolz'' at the end of it because it's so funny. Shows the level of maturity and respect for the victims you have.

so yeah trust me i will never stand down from my argument when i know i am not wrong ..

You are wrong. Period. Besides, this is just your rhetoric. If you were so ''right'', you wouldn't have used personal attacks and you wouldn't have attacked my title. But you know you aren't. That's why personal attacks come in.

lol you are completely in denial mode , i told you that Rangers have used Pistols

Pistols? Pistols again? How many times have I told you: that was about a specific Pistol called the Tokarev TT .30 Bore which is not used by Rangers since their sidearms are usually 9mms or .45s.

Get this through your skull: every single word the Rangers have said about this issue is true. Don't believe me?
This is what a TT pistol looks like:

You will not find a single picture of Rangers using this weapon as their sidearm. The weapon used by the Rangers officer near where Waqas was killed was a 9mm pistol, which looked like a Glock (possibly replica).

A picture of that 9mm pistol was falsely branded a ''TT'' by MQM's propagandists.

than waqas was shot in front of them

Incompetence at the worst. Not even that as they were preoccupied with crowd control. The shooter was clearly an agent provocateur., as shown in the video.

a Chutiya leader

Language.
Looks like that leader of yours taught you well.

you can insult a entire Political party and millions of people by calling them Criminals and Terrorist

I never said that.
I challenge you to quote a single post in which I said that everyone supporting MQM were criminals and terrorists. I say the party is involved in criminal activities, not 'every single party worker'. The party, by definition, is its leadership, which you yourself admit to be bad.

but if someone show you the mirror , you run for other mods ?

No. I tag the mods so that they can act as peacekeepers and I don't have to dirty my own mouth by responding in kind to the kind of language you used.

dude should i remind you that you are also a TT

I am a TT but not a moderator. All I can do is give negative ratings, if that's what you're suggesting.

 

[Patriots]

Almariyon se nikalne ka waqt nahi mila ho ga, raid surprise thi. Illegal weapons were found inside MQM's headquarters, they're illegal even if you don't point them at someone.

Only 43 weapons found illegal ... But its hard to rangers to prove in court that those weapons they actually caught from 90

Untouchable

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[I.R.A]

He was provincial interior minister, his wife was Speaker National Assembly (who by the way went on Umrah at cost of tax payers' money), he claimed childhood friendship with Zardari. Never heard a thing against Zardari at that time. Now all of a sudden he is on a mission to bring down Zardari and we Pakistanis think he is only one who can do it so let him violate the law if he has to.

Now people think he is credible enough to believe and support him? WTF pdf TTs you are such laughing stocks sometimes. Nobody survived who was ever a threat to speak against Zardari, its not sometime rocket science to understand and neither its some century old history that we cannot recall. for .

 

[Zibago]

Mirza is one step closer to lockup

 

[rockstar08]

No, I call many of the party's actions to be illegal. I'm sure it's full of innocent normal people and activists, but the bad is always more prominent than the good.

no that is not true that bad are more Prominent , that is your Opinion .. but in our country , people know how to take advantage of some Bad people to get their benefits ..

Oh I'm sure they've disowned criminals many times - but not without the obligatory remarks about how big victims they are, thus implying that the criminals are actually affiliated to them. So, they disown the criminals but then defend them at the same time by bringing up conspiracy theories and the usual rhetoric. Doublethink, in essence.

''Blind hate'' isn't needed for someone to dislike MQM. Eyes-wide-open criticism is just as good.

yeah just like every other Political Party do ? what is new there ? but problem with people is that you want to target just one Party , there are tons of criminals in PPP , ANP , PMLN , JI and JUI ... you beloved JI is been caught giving shelter to Taliban in their Houses in Islamabad , but i did not hear any voice against them or call them traitors , father of Asfand yar wali khan refused to get burred in Pakistan , and that same People were ruling the whole State , nice ..
and what we Pakistani in general do ? are not make Conspiracy in General ? hahaha dude you need to come to real world , everything bad happen so it become Sazish against them ...
your frustration is seen easily from your post , cause you are circling around like a toad in a Tub , with no logical answer to my questions ..
and if you see other Parties they are much more biggest traitors than MQM ... At least MQM has disciplined Workers not like other Jungli Pakistani who fight with each other on plate of Biryani lolz

Almariyon se nikalne ka waqt nahi mila ho ga, raid surprise thi. Illegal weapons were found inside MQM's headquarters, they're illegal even if you don't point them at someone.

Oh bhai kon si Daru pee rakhi hai ? are you mentally retarded ? you are saying that MQM workers dont get time to pick up the weapons to use against rangers ? while the whole Area belong to MQM ? have you even visit Aziza bad ? hahah you sounds funny dude ... if MQM was full of Criminals and they want to Attack rangers , than your Brave Rangers cant even cross two streets , but they did because MQM dont want any Confrontation with Rangers , cause they care of their Political Image ..

and yes , Failed again to show any Prove where MQM workers were pointing Guns at Rangers

Challo phir yeh kya baat hui? Aise to jo marzi kar lo, phir bolo ke koi aur iss se bhi burra kar raha hai. Aise to Taliban ko bhi justify kar sakte hain, bas bolo Hitler ne un se ziyada log maare the.

90 pe hone wali raid me MQM ki jaib waale police afsar nahi the, Zulfiqar Mirza apne purane chamcho se badmaashi kar raha tha. Aasman zamiin ka farq hai.

pata nai kia bol rahe ho kuch samaj nai aya ..
justify kia justify karo gay mian ? ek admi openly keh raha hai police ko thook dena , ager koi hoshiyari kare tu ..

90 pe hone wali raid mai Rangers ne criminals ko arrest kia , aram se chale gaye , no violence or anything , but there was this guy who was protesting get shot , and our brave Jawans stand there like " choro kuch bolon ga tu bura lag jaye ga tumai " lolz

Acha lie busted lie busted, mujhe aik baat batao; kya aap ne woh video dekhi? Because if you watched the video of the Rangers officer talking, you will realize that there was no lie and nothing was busted.

All of this rhetoric of yours is MQM propaganda and nothing more.

Here's what the Rangers officer said:

aww i get busted , lol you talk like 14 year old kid ... keep doing it cause it makes the post a bit funny to read
and by the way i have seen that video many times ..

'Yeh waale hathyaar Pakistan me ban hain, NATO-grade hain, humein abhi pata nahi yeh kahan se aaye. Mera zaati khayal yeh hai ke NATO container se churaye gaye hain lekin hum tafteesh kar ke pata lagain ge''.

All he said was that these are NATO-grade weapons that are illegal in Pakistan and he thought some might have been stolen from NATO containers, especially the ones with Silencers on them.

The officer made a very responsible and clear statement but MQM's propagandists twisted it into something else entirely. He never said they're definitely stolen by MQM from NATO containers. He said they could have been, at some point, stolen. That includes black market munitions, since they're usually either stolen or looted from dead soldiers.

what is your point here ?
have you see his full statement ? since when 90 become a no Go area ? lol ..
and there is no prove that those weapons recovers from 90 , they just put on roof top and show it media ... there is a high possibility that they planted , just like they planted jinnah pur maps in 92 ..

Oh they can't go inside lyari? What's this then?

Dunya News: Pakistan:-Karachi: 40 more suspects arrested from Lyari...
And how do they keep arresting Lyari gangsters if they never go into Lyari?
Oh and ''lolz'', let's distort facts about about violence, crime and terrorism that has killed thousands of our countrymen by putting a ''lolz'' at the end of it because it's so funny. Shows the level of maturity and respect for the victims you have.

yeah and one picture prove that they can go Inside Liyari lolz ,
you are hilarious kid ... remember the Operation Aslam Chaudry has done in Liyari , he was failed to Penetrate Liyari , where was the rangers ? when Liyari Gansters were Fighting Aslam Chaudry ? hiding in their HQ , or ohhh wait may be they can raid there cause PPP will send them back to the deserts , cause PPP govt can do that ...

You are wrong. Period. Besides, this is just your rhetoric. If you were so ''right'', you wouldn't have used personal attacks and you wouldn't have attacked my title. But you know you aren't. That's why personal attacks come in.

that's it ?? lolz seriously ??
what is your title dude ? ask yourself that did you even deserve that title ? calling millions of People Criminals ,that shows a lot about your background ..
you have no respect for anyone ... there are women , kids , girls , supporting MQM as a Party , and you call the Criminals , and you should be ashamed , and if they all are criminals than i guess entire Pakistan is Terrorist , or criminal cause everyone is breaking law in any form ...

Get this through your skull: every single word the Rangers have said about this issue is true. Don't believe me?
This is what a TT pistol looks like:

You will not find a single picture of Rangers using this weapon as their sidearm. The weapon used by the Rangers officer near where Waqas was killed was a 9mm pistol, which looked like a Glock (possibly replica).

A picture of that 9mm pistol was falsely branded a ''TT'' by MQM's propagandists.

now see this Picture ... carefully ...

Language.
Looks like that leader of yours taught you well.

i dont have any leader , and yeah i am better than sick minded people who enjoy the killing of 10,000 people ... i am better than you kinds and i am proud of it ...

The party, by definition, is its leadership, which you yourself admit to be bad.

well than what you will say about Zardari , Nawaz , Asfand yar wali , Muwar hussain , Mullana Fazaluuu ...

No. I tag the mods so that they can act as peacekeepers and I don't have to dirty my own mouth by responding in kind to the kind of language you used.

hahah yeah i accept that

I am a TT but not a moderator. All I can do is give negative ratings, if that's what you're suggesting.

and if you want please feel to add some Rating to my Profile , i dont care .. the best you can is this .. plus learn to digest the truth and leave that blind hatred ... i will pray for you and Get well soon

 

[ZeusMK]

What the F is going on this thread people.......
I don't see Pakistanis here, people have made it an Ethnic Agenda!
I am sure our enemy will be delighted at witnessing our "Unity here"
I however am deeply surprised, depressed and ashamed to look at this aspect.

We are all PAKISTANIS
JUSTICE FOR ALL EQUALLY!
if not then i am afraid we are all done for.

 

[TankMan]

no that is not true that bad are more Prominent ,

It is true. Generally, the bad stands out more than the good, doesn't matter what you talk about; religions, countries, races, political parties - the bad will always stand out more than the good. It's human psychology.

yeah just like every other Political Party do ? what is new there ? but problem with people is that you want to target just one Party , there are tons of criminals in PPP , ANP , PMLN , JI and JUI ... you beloved JI is been caught giving shelter to Taliban in their Houses in Islamabad , but i did not hear any voice against them or call them traitors , father of Asfand yar wali khan refused to get burred in Pakistan , and that same People were ruling the whole State , nice ..
and what we Pakistani in general do ? are not make Conspiracy in General ? hahaha dude you need to come to real world , everything bad happen so it become Sazish against them ...
your frustration is seen easily from your post , cause you are circling around like a toad in a Tub , with no logical answer to my questions ..
and if you see other Parties they are much more biggest traitors than MQM ... At least MQM has disciplined Workers not like other Jungli Pakistani who fight with each other on plate of Biryani lolz

What a pointless rant.

People from PPP, PAC, ANP etc have been arrested.
Other political parties don't accuse the full country of being against them. Those that do face the same criticism as MQM.
Other political parties don't bring in ethnic victimization every time a criminal is arrested.

Oh you did not hear any voice against JUI? Open your ears. My beloved JI? MY? When have I ever had anything to do with JI? ANP was ruling the whole state? When did that ever happen? Good God.

what is your point here ?

He didn't say ''The weapons are stolen from NATO''. He said ''I, personally, think the weapons are stolen from NATO''.
If you can't understand the difference, well, I won't waste my time.

are you mentally retarded ?

No, I'm not. Again, personal attack. Good going, shows the aukaat of MQM.
@waz

lol you talk like 14 year old kid

Says the one who ends and begins every sentence with ''lol''.
Another personal attack. Shabaash beta, aur seekho apne quaid se.

now see this Picture ... carefully ...

I already talked about that picture. Read. Carefully.

The weapon used by the Rangers officer near where Waqas was killed was a 9mm pistol,
A picture of that 9mm pistol was falsely branded a ''TT'' by MQM's propagandists.

and yeah i am better than sick minded people who enjoy the killing of 10,000 people .

I have never enjoyed the killing of anyone.

well than what you will say about Zardari , Nawaz , Asfand yar wali , Muwar hussain , Mullana Fazaluuu ...

Zardari.... I've said enough about him on other threads, where it's relevant. One word: Snake.
Nawaz Sharif? Well, you're welcome to read my old thread on why I oppose him if you want
Now, do you want me to go over every single leader and my opinion on them? Open a new thread, it's off topic.

plus learn to digest the truth

Look who's talking. You wouldn't recognize the truth if it smacked you in the face.

Truth: MQM had illegal NATO-grade weapons.
Truth: MQM has used target killers frequently.
Truth: MQM's leader is a criminal who considers Pakistan a blunder.

And you know it's the truth, since you never took any of these points head-on. You just don't recognize it as such. It's always either ''someone else is doing worse'' or ''it's a conspiracy by Rangers''.