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Christians have been India for a very long time without being persecuted for their beliefs. The friction is happening because a small group, foreign funded, is aggressively proselytising and that involves putting down other faiths. No one ever joined a group which said that "your way is also right". It is only those groups who believe "it's my way or the highway" that get involved in such acts.

The Chirstian missionaries are NOT doing that at GUNPOINT hence its all insecurity by mainstream Hindu groups.

You guys failed to provide better life to a large section of your own Hindu population and hence the areas are fertile for Christian missionaries.

The issue with these Hindu groups is that they cant accept low cast Hindus as one of them and still practice castism on the other hand Christianity offers them better solution.

time to offer the same or expel Christian missionries from India by force. The later indeed is a tough way and former is not possible.
 
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The Chirstian missionaries are NOT doing that at GUNPOINT hence its all insecurity by mainstream Hindu groups.

You guys failed to provide better life to a large section of your own Hindu population and hence the areas are fertile for Christian missionaries.

The issue with these Hindu groups is that they cant accept low cast Hindus as one of them and still practice castism on the other hand Christianity offers them better solution.

time to offer the same
or expel Christian missionries from India by force. The later indeed is a tough way and former is not possible.

That is being offered since independence by way of reservation quota and many dalits are having a better life now(I can myself quote upto 10 of my friends who has achieved better life) . And can you conclusively say that casteism has been removed with them converting to Christianity?
 
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A.R. Rahman started life as Dileep Kumar & converted to Islam.Even though he turned his back on Hinduism, did it make any difference to his career or the affection he receives. It didn't because it was a private decision. When you publicly denigrate ( & they are very abusive) the majority religion in order to get converts, it can almost certainly guarantee friction.

Compare that with such converts to Christianity in orrisa and the treatment they get.

AR Rehman was praised because he brought oscar :)) please be honest.
 
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And what facilities are these missionaries offering to people? If low caste converts are getting a better life, why would dalit Christians are seeking a par status with the supposedly "even lowly" Hindu dalits and crying discrimination? If the missionaries have failed to offer better life then I would say they have cheated people.


The Hindu : Cities / Delhi : Dalit Muslims, Christians demand Scheduled Caste status

That's because the so-called lowly people simply aren't open for conversions because of the reservation benefits that they get. Which is way some Christian organisations have tried hard to have reservations(based on caste) extended to Christians (who are converted ostensibly to get them out of the caste system)
 
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Compare that with such converts to Christianity in orrisa and the treatment they get.

AR Rehman was praised because he brought oscar :)) please be honest.

Oscar or no Oscar.He was always praised in India.
 
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That is being offered since independence by way of reservation quota and many dalits are having a better life now(I can myself quote upto 10 of my friends who have achieved better life) . And can you conclusively say that casteism has been removed with them converting to Christianity?

can you tell me why Hindus convert to Christianity and why "quota" dint prevent them from going Christians?

and if India is a free country and secular why you oppose this conversion?
 
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The Chirstian missionaries are NOT doing that at GUNPOINT hence its all insecurity by mainstream Hindu groups.

Gun point? In your country, a man was lynched a few days ago by a mob who claimed he desecrated the Koran..... Why? Did he have a gun?

can you tell me why Hindus convert to Christianity and why "quota" dint prevent them from going Christians?

and if India is a free country and secular why you oppose this conversion?

Read my post, quota does reduce conversions from the Scheduled Castes. Conversion is an individual's private business, proselytising is not since it is done in public and the manner in which it is done is anything but pleasant.
 
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can you tell me why Hindus convert to Christianity and why "quota" dint prevent them from going Christians?

and if India is a free country and secular why you oppose this conversion?

Please don't raise another question for my question - But let me answer it - the exact reason that people has been promised and misled for a better lifestyle and realising they have not gone anywhere.


As for India being a secular country, I rebutted your point in another thread - It is the people who has made India a secular country - Not the constitution.


I can offer you multiple reasons but here are some -

I oppose conversion because of the false promises and the hate they dishout against other religions while trying to convert people. I oppose conversion because it creates friction among the people and India has seen enough religious based riots.
 
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can you tell me why Hindus convert to Christianity and why "quota" dint prevent them from going Christians?

and if India is a free country and secular why you oppose this conversion?

....the opposition is against imposition of foreign values and culture based on Money power. The opposition is against dividing the loyalties of Indians under the false garb of 'religious brotherhood'.

We already had communists having divided loyalties against China .....

A christian will always have soft corner for the 'West'.....it only adds to the headache of majority Hindus by forcing them to 'eternal vigilance'.

A hindu converted muslim nation pakistan will always have soft corner for 'arabs' ....even to the detriment of their own nation.

India is secular because the majority Hindu give equal rights to muslims and christians and parsis and jews. Not because it allows conversion by force.
 
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The Chirstian missionaries are NOT doing that at GUNPOINT hence its all insecurity by mainstream Hindu groups.
You guys failed to provide better life to a large section of your own Hindu population and hence the areas are fertile for Christian missionaries.
The issue with these Hindu groups is that they cant accept low cast Hindus as one of them and still practice castism on the other hand Christianity offers them better solution.
time to offer the same or expel Christian missionries from India by force. The later indeed is a tough way and former is not possible.
First, In Orissa where there was huge starvation, these missionaries offered food in return for conversion, of course our govt. failed but can you ignore how they got these desperate people converted. Any parent will accept any religion if he/she sees his/ her child dying of hunger.

As for caste system, ask any South Indian, they will tell you that even after converting into Christianity, they follow it. So caste system problem doesn't go away with religion change.

Secondly you said they are not converted on gun point. Of course not. They use desperation and need of poor people to carry out conversion.

You say the people do it on their own will. Well same argument can be said on number of terrorists in Pakistan, they are not inducted on gun point, its their own will to kill innocent people. Its your govt. failure too that couldn't provide education and employment to these population which made few people to be brainwashed by the terrorist leaders and offered money in return of bombing.

I agree there has been criminal acts against Christians, but tell me one country where there is no religion, race, based crimes don't happen especially in our sub-continent. Even in your country people are shot just because they ask for proper trial of woman blamed for blasphemy and the murderer is showered by flowers by Lawyers, the lawyers who are supposed to fight for against injustice.

I agree there are many shortfalls in my country. I don't deny that. But also note that even with 81% Hindus in this country, Muslims and other minorities are growing every single day. They have important positions at all levels, from business, politics, government, bureaucracy, entertainment, science, sports, etc. any field.

I studied in a school run by Christians, prayed their prayers, even the Muslim, Sikh, Jain students did, and never saw any problem based on religion. Not a single iota.

We are population of 1.2 billion people, 1/7 of total population in the world. Do a comparative analysis, 1,2 billion Indians and around 6 billion rest of the world. Let me know what is the economy size, crime rate, terrorist attacks, crimes on base of race, color, creed, religion e
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AR Rehman was praised because he brought oscar :)) please be honest.

Yea right!! A R Rehman was famous in India only after he got the Oscar.. Which world are you living in anyway???
 
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can you tell me why Hindus convert to Christianity and why "quota" dint prevent them from going Christians?

and if India is a free country and secular why you oppose this conversion?

India is not a secular country, its a majority Hindu country that persecute other religions, such as Christianity. Hindu would lose their caste once they are converted to Christianity. So high caste Indians would not have lower caste people to kick around if they are converted to Christianity.
 
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