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PM says US pressuring Pakistan to recognise Israel: report

If receiving something amounts to making a long standing diplomatic change, it must mean that the country is very weak. Even quaid e azam spoke for the rights of palestinians, so are you suggesting we roll back our founding principles?

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In our founding principles East Pakistan was included. Times change, you don't keep up with the times you become history too.

I am not saying get rid of rights of Palestinians just not be so obstinate about relations with Israel if and only if it will help Pakistan stand up on its feet. My take is first learn to help yourself then help Palestinians or whoever else.
 
In our founding principles East Pakistan was included. Times change, you don't keep up with the times you become history too.

I am not saying get rid of rights of Palestinians just not be so obstinate about relations with Israel if and only if it will help Pakistan stand up on its feet. My take is first learn to help yourself then help Palestinians or whoever else.

lmao, what times have changed? secondly, ''israel'' helping pakistan stand up on its feet? you seem delusional to say the least. Most pakistan can get by embrasing israel is getting some defese equipments from USA and NATO and thats about it.

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lmao, what times have changed? secondly, ''israel'' helping pakistan stand up on its feet? you seem delusional to say the least. Most pakistan can get by embrasing israel is getting some defese equipments from USA and NATO and thats about it.

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You want to resort to personal attacks? Ok so you're just an ideological hypocritical moron who would rather stick out for some people who can't point to Pakistan on a map. Be my guest. It's because of fools like you Pakistan is in this state.

Why don't you fight for Yemenis, Uighurs, Rohingya? I'll tell you why, because you're a hypocrite.

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Israel can go f**k themselves. Even if the whole world supports Israel we will always be with Palestine.
 
My guess is that they will impose sanstions if Pakistan doesn't collaborate.
 
Many of you guys are being too emotional. On the ground situation really isn't like S. Asia. Reality is that the Palestinians are better off integrating with Israel. Even the Arab states are acknowledging this. If Palestinian rights are guaranteed, and terms are good.....we should recognize Israel.
Then are the kashmiris better off integrating with India? If you were a Palestinian would you want to integrate with your oppressors.
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we will go hungry we will have no shoes and we will have patches on our clothes

but we will not sell Masjid Al Aqsa to non-muslims because Our Prophet of Allah ascended to the heavens from that location and we will never sell our religion for few cheap coins

if you were to balance one stone from the stairs of Al Aqsa against the wealth of the entire world the former will outweigh the latter

no compromise on religion no compromise on Al Aqsa full stop

and when Inshallah the day comes and we re-take it the cowards who sold it should be dealt with accordingly

I bet on that day those clowns and cowards will want to join us but glory will not be for them

All Glory Belongs to Allah and his Messenger
 
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Israel can go f**k themselves. Even if the whole world supports Israel we will always be with Palestine.

That is the spirit I like to see in our Paks.

we will go hungry we will have no shoes and we will have patches on our clothes

but we will not sell Masjid Al Aqsa to non-muslims because Our Prophet of Allah ascended to the heavens from that location and we will never sell our religion for few cheap coins

if you were to balance one stone from the stairs of Al Aqsa against the wealth of the entire world the former will outweigh the latter

no compromise on religion no compromise on Al Aqsa full stop

and when Inshallah the day comes and we re-take it the cowards who sold it should be dealt with accordingly

I bet on that day those clowns and cowards will want to join us but glory will not be for them

All Glory Belongs to Allah and his Messenger

I salute you for your lovely words.

The blood and tears of every Palestinian will be repaid, with interest.

Even if the whole world recognizes Israel, Pakistan will continue to reject this terrorist state.

We wear it as badge of honor.

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I am not saying get rid of rights of Palestinians just not be so obstinate about relations with Israel if and only if it will help Pakistan stand up on its feet. My take is first learn to help yourself then help Palestinians or whoever else.

Letting your enemy camp in your yard won't make him into your friend.

Instead you have let your enemy right on your doorstep.

We have problems with RAW, Iranian VAJA, NDS, CIA, and Mossad already on our Western borders.

Let us not give them an open base inside our country.
 
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How about you open up a Thread and than we can have discussion over there about Prophetic surety by the Last Prophet Muhammad (SAW) about the people who side with the forces of Dajal ?

What prophetic surety do you have about making non-belivers to believer while told by Quran and Sunnah otherwise ?
Which takes on the same qualities of Allah in judgement or in this world as if either you are his equal or you speak for him .. so which is it?
I claim no authority, but I don’t recognize yours either .. who are you? Nobody
Nobody of any value other than 1’s and 0’s on the internet spreading takfir.

All I am is another Nobody highlighting your value, relevance and capacity to actually affect change ... and my highlight is also worthless.

However, I prefer not to speak for Allah or his messengers based upon what I think rather than what is written in the Quran or how the Prophet acted.

That is the only value of Nobody’s - otherwise we might as well go on TV and claim that anaozubullah after Allah , Imran Khan is the only hope for Pakistan.
That's rich!! My interpretation? You're kidding me with this comment of yours, right?

Lemme ask you this, have you ever bothered to study the subject? Did you ever bother to study the Holy Qur'an, before accusing me of such ridiculous label? Have you studied the Arabic language and conducted a detailed analysis to make the distinction between the common spoken Arabic to that which is in the Holy Qur'an?

If so, then do tell me where, in the Holy Qur'an is Jerusalem mentioned by name? Because if it isn't, then it wouldn't be surprising that your unnamed scholars have disputed about Jews. Despite the fact that there is an entire chapter in the Holy Qur'an, titled Surah Banu Isra'eel.

Oh and King Herod's wife, Mariamne I, demanded the head of John the Baptist, who is Hazrat Yahya Alaihi Salam. This is documented in European Iconography, from the Roman times. You'd know this, had you bothered to study the subject. Instead you've been quick to come to the defense of yourself, when I accuse those advocating for Pakistan's recognition of israel, of betraying Islam.



And which scholars, pray tell, would they be? As the ones that I have gone through, have been debunked.

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It is really interesting to see how you have cleverly remarked, labeling me to be someone who is "near prophetic." Perhaps if you had spent more time in going to the Holy Qur'an and studying the scripture. You would've probably benefited from it, than focusing your brain power on defending your vanity. Advocating the recognition of israel, an apartheid, fascist, genocidal murderer state. Yet accusing me to be some "near prophet."

I would advise you to channel your intellect to more positive and productive direction. We are human after all and as Muslims, we owe it to ourselves to strive toward the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet, Khatim-un-Nabiyyen (Final Prophet of Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah) Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.
I have advocated nothing other than highlighting that your attempts that Takfir are equating to judgement reserved for Allah.

Find a post above where I said anything regarding the recognition of Israel - instead have highlighted that promoting blanket murder of Jews(be it an Israeli, non Israeli, man, woman or child.. I suppose that is how you and those who support this were raised) and then accusing every one else of not being muslims(possibly also plotting their execution.. reflecting in your values as a human) were wrong.
 
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At the moment Pakistan gains nothing from recognizing Israel as do we from having any relations with the Indians. The principle stance of pakistan should be as per the guidelines of Islam and after that Quaid-e-Azam. PM khan is doing the right thing.
 
Some of the members are violating rules of this forum under the garb of making arguments and insulting other members for their views in the process.

Some are presenting religious arguments and half-baked at that.

Some are trying to give the impression that they speak for all in Pakistan in regards to a contentious theme; no they clearly do not. Pakistani have mixed opinion on this theme in fact.

This world does not operate as per demands of a single country - Allah Almighty is supreme and he has the power to shape the course of events in this world. Now that Masjid Al-Aqsa is not in our hands, perhaps this a ominous sign for modern-age Muslims to mend their ways (rampant hypocrisy). Allah Almighty have not promised global conquest to Muslims anyways.

This thread is under observation now. If these violations do not stop then expect action.

Please do not pull the religion card to hijack a discussion.
 

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