PM Modi raises issue of Pakistan-sponsored terror in meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping

[Jackdaws]

oh it has...it has resorted to proxies! No one forgets that!


no one said abt indians...it takes courage to line up against Pakistanis...


sad how you disown your own spies....one standing in UN court


You sure? You are rental when it comes to playing another's agenda instead of being smart enough to strengthen the region by forming alliance with ALL neighbours!


I am not one who goes hunting! I take your word for it!
But it doesnt undo your stand on Pakistan...which isnt very favourite yet you failed to criticize your own govt in not giving peace a chance?! Oh yea you like your govt doesnt trust IK - a different person than those you have dealt with for a chance at peace? Many would call it escaping!

Who doesn't want peace? I would prefer if my Govt kept some kind of track 2 dialogue on. But the fact is that the narratives, needs and domestic compulsion have created a chasm so wide that talks will be useless. What will they talk about?

 

[Dubious]

Who doesn't want peace? I would prefer if my Govt kept some kind of track 2 dialogue on. But the fact is that the narratives, needs and domestic compulsion have created a chasm so wide that talks will be useless. What will they talk about?

For starters how to enable peace...considering we are going for it as it is expensive to keep the unnecessary fighting on!

It may also include giving Kashmir the much waited referendum right!

 

[MilSpec]

I am not one who goes hunting! I take your word for it!
But it doesnt undo your stand on Pakistan...which isnt very favourite yet you failed to criticize your own govt in not giving peace a chance?! Oh yea you like your govt doesnt trust IK - a different person than those you have dealt with for a chance at peace? Many would call it escaping!

I am sorry but you are misunderstanding my position on Pakistan. My take has been critical of India government's policy on Pakistan being too soft post 26/11, not the other way around. I am very much firm on my stand on my take on Pakistan, and it is has nothing to do with IK. Unless the COAS of Pakistan is onboard, there is no point in taking what the PM of Pakistan want's to promote.
If Modi goes ahead and plays Vajpayee's tunes without on ground changes, which includes cessation in infiltration, lowering separatist activity in Kashmir, I will be first to call out his spinelessness as I did Post balakot until some concrete actions were taken.

 

[Dubious]

Has it now, your should take it up in FATF, UN bans of terror outfits in India? any takers?

havent we already taken kushbul thing to UN?

 

[crankthatskunk]

Xi after listen to Modi looked at thee wall, then turn back towards Modi and gave a diplomatic smile (in other words communicating to the Butcher of Gujrat, "on your bike killer".

 

[Dubious]

may be I did not get the point across, My contention was Indians are not infiltrating into Pakistan to blow themselves up. Blowing people up doesn't need courage, it needs radicalization. I beg to differ with your concept of courage.

Oh that blowing self up! No one needs to lack hope in the living to blow themselves up- suicide isnt a new concept!
Many a times it is earning = hoping those at home get the money...
other times it is revenge =some loved one was hurt and such people with absolute anger are easier to manipulate

trying to portray an alleged spy as a terrorist.

if he is involved in terrorist activities, he is a terrorist!

Yes, pretty sure, do not send our soldiers to guard royal families in the gulf, don't send out cannon fodder behest of allies, do not let allies bomb our own civilians to aid in their war. Unfortunately, there is a bit of disconnect, India's foreign policy will, is and always will remain India First. Our policies are to secure our own interests, a multitude of examples of the same across the history to reflect the same.

None of this is related to the thread nor the title you just enjoy running your mouth!

Gulf royalty does give alot in return - our soldiers dont come online to beg for help! So their system sustains them
as for bomb civilians - now they are civilians but when indian kills such people they are terrorists?

I didnt know india first meant disowning your own people who are in your service?

My take has been critical of India government's policy on Pakistan being too soft post 26/11, not the other way around.

I never thought of it as other way round ....Your posts give you away!

Kindly get back to the topic...I dont see any form of discussion with you as leading anywhere except in circles!

Who doesn't want peace?

india! It has said so loud and clear and even boasted abt how they wont take the call from Pakistan - treated peace like it is shameful and weakness!

Unless the COAS of Pakistan is onboard

You see that is the problem with india...they cant see even if slapped on their face-

Pak civilian govt and military are hand in hand in all decisions! Havent seen even 1 objection from either abt anything the other is doing! And that is how a successful nation works! TOGETHER! If india has problems with that - then it is india's problem alone not ours coz we are satisfied with it! And india needs to resolve its inferiority complex someplace else!

 

[WAJsal]

Who doesn't want peace? I would prefer if my Govt kept some kind of track 2 dialogue on. But the fact is that the narratives, needs and domestic compulsion have created a chasm so wide that talks will be useless. What will they talk about?

Fair point Jackdaws, we have history to learn from of all things. When has conflict ever brought anything positive? The fact that the likes of me and you or MilSpec and others agree that there should be peace between Pak and India is a good thing. Maybe we can enable people to people contact, for example before I joined this forum I thought maybe Indians were all crazy or somethong, this view changed drastically and I'm sure many can relate. Work along these lines and maybe future generations can work something out. Leave it on them, globel warming and everything.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

Hypocrites....India funds terrorism in Baluchistan and plays the victim ...what a b1tch!

 

[xyx007]

Modi is just playing regional policemen of America and of course his first target is Pakistan, in a new report from Pentagon indicated that the biggest threat for the US is now Russia and China, and this report indicated that this threat greater than Al-Qaeda or ISIS .https://www.newsweek.com/us-lose-war-russia-china-military-strategy-overhaul-new-report-1443774 .
I hope Pakistan is not going to support this new cold war which is played by America using India as a Proxy in the region to counter China / Russia economical growth in Asia. Modi is making an again big mistake just like using his cloud theory to attack us and choosing the wrong side at the wrong time because the power center is now shifting from west to east.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/09/global-power-shifting-asia-europe-must-adapt

 

[MilSpec]

Oh that blowing self up! No one needs to lack hope in the living to blow themselves up- suicide isnt a new concept!
Many a times it is earning = hoping those at home get the money...
other times it is revenge =some loved one was hurt and such people with absolute anger are easier to manipulate


if he is involved in terrorist activities, he is a terrorist!


None of this is related to the thread nor the title you just enjoy running your mouth!

Gulf royalty does give alot in return - our soldiers dont come online to beg for help! So their system sustains them
as for bomb civilians - now they are civilians but when indian kills such people they are terrorists?

I didnt know india first meant disowning your own people who are in your service?


I never thought of it as other way round ....Your posts give you away!

Kindly get back to the topic...I dont see any form of discussion with you as leading anywhere except in circles!


india! It has said so loud and clear and even boasted abt how they wont take the call from Pakistan - treated peace like it is shameful and weakness!


You see that is the problem with india...they cant see even if slapped on their face-

Pak civilian govt and military are hand in hand in all decisions! Havent seen even 1 objection from either abt anything the other is doing! And that is how a successful nation works! TOGETHER! If india has problems with that - then it is india's problem alone not ours coz we are satisfied with it! And india needs to resolve its inferiority complex someplace else!

Oh that blowing self up! No one needs to lack hope in the living to blow themselves up- suicide isnt a new concept!
Many a times it is earning = hoping those at home get the money...
other times it is revenge =some loved one was hurt and such people with absolute anger are easier to manipulate


if he is involved in terrorist activities, he is a terrorist!


None of this is related to the thread nor the title you just enjoy running your mouth!

Gulf royalty does give alot in return - our soldiers dont come online to beg for help! So their system sustains them
as for bomb civilians - now they are civilians but when indian kills such people they are terrorists?

I didnt know india first meant disowning your own people who are in your service?


I never thought of it as other way round ....Your posts give you away!

Kindly get back to the topic...I dont see any form of discussion with you as leading anywhere except in circles!


india! It has said so loud and clear and even boasted abt how they wont take the call from Pakistan - treated peace like it is shameful and weakness!


You see that is the problem with india...they cant see even if slapped on their face-

Pak civilian govt and military are hand in hand in all decisions! Havent seen even 1 objection from either abt anything the other is doing! And that is how a successful nation works! TOGETHER! If india has problems with that - then it is india's problem alone not ours coz we are satisfied with it! And india needs to resolve its inferiority complex someplace else!

I thought you were curious to know why we weren't "hired", thus poignant to specify why we have not been in the game of "hire for war". Given the unpalatable nature, I can understand the reaction, but my responses have been quite specific in every direction you have tried to drag it with the rudimentary whataboutery.

 

[Dubious]

I thought you were curious to know why we weren't "hired", thus poignant to specify why we have not been in the game of "hire for war". Given the unpalatable nature, I can understand the reaction, but my responses have been quite specific in every direction you have tried to drag it with the rudimentary whataboutery.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Pakistani delegations goes and talkes about relevant problems and economic challenges. Indians go there and cry about pakistani. Obsessed monkeys

 

[Baby Leone]

Lol does he has anything else to do in his life or for his country?

 

[MilSpec]

Fair point Jackdaws, we have history to learn from of all things. When has conflict ever brought anything positive? The fact that the likes of me and you or MilSpec and others agree that there should be peace between Pak and India is a good thing. Maybe we can enable people to people contact, for example before I joined this forum I thought maybe Indians were all crazy or somethong, this view changed drastically and I'm sure many can relate. Work along these lines and maybe future generations can work something out. Leave it on them, globel warming and everything.

Forget peace, and friendship and all of it at this point. There is no trade between the two countries, and the economies are not dependent on each other. For the next 5 years just disengage completely from each other and lower hostilities with one simple understanding, no meddling in each other affairs. That itself is the biggest foundation for meaningful peace talks that can only come from lowering hostilities.
To me, it's very much like tuning PID loops, get the large oscillatory behavior in control and then fine tune gain values and transfer functions for stable data.

 

[Verve]

I thought you were curious to know why we weren't "hired", thus poignant to specify why we have not been in the game of "hire for war". Given the unpalatable nature, I can understand the reaction, but my responses have been quite specific in every direction you have tried to drag it with the rudimentary whataboutery.

At the very least you have admitted KBY to be a spy. However if the spy is providing funding to those running suicide squads, it makes him a terrorist as well.

As for you harping on about 26/11, there's absolutely no proof of ISI/PA/Pak-Gov behind it.

But you Hallucinating Indoos live in your own la la land so such is expected. Run of the mill really.