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PM Imran's revenue authority plan faces resistance

top hierarchy of the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) on Monday almost unanimously opposed the proposal of setting up the Pakistan Revenue Authority (PRA).
I am not sure if this is laughable or worth crying :unsure:

Top idiots looting Pakistan shamelessly opposing to changes? Simply fire them! We have more than 220 million people to replace them with!

Rather than ranting on the decision, they should complete courses and keep their jobs relevant
They need to be told that we have a big population that can replace them if they are too rusty to move forward!

Pakistan doesnt need to stay backward coz they cant move forward!
 
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If these reforms go through millions more taxpayers will register as of now they simply pay a monthly fee and walk away with millions in tax free income.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE FIRE THEM ALL!!!!!

Top idiots looting Pakistan shamelessly opposing to changes?

Of course they are opposing, 50% of the country's revenue went into these guy's pocket, Goose that laid the golden eggs is slipping away

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE FIRE THEM ALL!!!!!
 
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Sad thing is in Pakistan you cannot fire bureaucrats, you can only suspend their service or transfer them somewhere else (if I'm not mistaken)...... so these babus cannot be expunged from the system that easily.
 
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On the insistence of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the federal government had set the FBR’s tax collection target at Rs5.5 trillion or 12.4% of gross domestic product, requiring an impossible growth of 44% over the previous year’s collection.

India tax to GDP ratio is 16-17%. Pakistan with already poorly documented economy barely 11%. At least Rs2 trillion is being lost because of corrupt FBR officials.

Rs5.5t is impossible target with current FBR.
 
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Pakistanis have general hate for computer and all digital data collection tools,because machines don't lie neither they fabricate anything.Only way to curb corruption in Pakistan is, least possible amount of contact between money and govt servants.
P.S:-More power to Govt on this.
@ps3linux @baqai @Dubious @Mangus Ortus Novem

They framed another Govt servant,who last time made a detailed plan for automation in revenue collection.That guy was made to leave Pakistan,and we know him by name of Ashir Azeem.

Whole world is going towards automation, data science and artificial intelligence, and our bureaucrats want to keep enjoying old golden days.

Rather than ranting on the decision, they should complete courses and keep their jobs relevant in the new setup or they should get their ar$es ready for kicks.

Shabbar Zaidi is extremely talented.. these reforms are mostly his ideas.. I know because I have worked under him for a brief period in mid 2000s. I knew, if given free hand, he would bring much sought after reforms in FBR.

Problem is that, IKs cabinet is full of retards and snakes.. they will never allow him to bring these changes and if IK is able to bring these reforms, forget 5 trillion, the revenue will be increased to 10 trillion rupees per year in 5 years.. which means 70 billion dollars.. by that time, our exports will be reaching 50 billion dollars and remittances will be close to 30 billion in shaa Allah... imagine what we can achieve with 150 billion dollars per year..

No wonder Bajwa was seen hugging Shabbar recently!

I agree with both of you and add few things of my own how do people expect that a bureaucrats/sarkari mulazim who coming from the assembly line of public schools primarily hired on the most blatant insult to merit i.e quota system by s**king it up to a local MNA/MPA and paying hefty bribes for the job, would be doing justice to his job serving thy nation, why do people prefer a Govt job over private sector, for corruption, power, authority and job security anything I miss?

The other problem is most of people in the land of pure don't want to cough up taxes, despite having audit from a reputed audit firm every 4 to 5 years our family business is audited by FBR, since we don't give bribe to those w**res, in the last 20 years we have taken them to supreme court and won the cases, simply because our books are in order and we will never pay any bribe or compromise, compromise is required where there is something to hide, the day businessmen will start paying taxes FBR will get inline itself.

Bhai it is very simple why every bureaucrat wants to fail every attempt at automation, simple because the tooti of haraam will be plugged this way. I have these c**k su**ers on courses in USA with IRS, senior most bureaucrats come to those course, idiot who have no hand one experience will never roll their sleeves up to do the actual work or close to retirement cases. Their entire world revolves around shopping, TA/DA and finding ways to get a green card for themselves and their children, find a way to damage to the country in return for table scraps although I like the urdu Equivalent (RAATAB), did i miss ogling at every women and bars for hard drinks.

I have met Shabbar few times and found him to be aware of what is wrong with the tax system, be it the bureaucrats or the traders they might get a small respite but all the changes could be delayed slightly but the changes are on the radar of not only Shabbar, IK but those whose decision matter the most, even he deep state.

Bhai if we could only fix over/under invoicing system get info through MLA from countries where all exported/importers have setup their shell companies our imports will decrease by 50 and exports increase by atleast 30-40%, I am not joking being deep inside the heartland I know what is so f***ing wrong with our financial system.
 
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I am not joking being deep inside the heartland I know what is so f***ing wrong with our financial system.

The sad part is that everyone knows what is wrong with our system but no one is bothered enough to actually want to fix it, or even change it, since it serves some of us exceedingly well. (I left the country due to this realization.)
 
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The sad part is that everyone knows what is wrong with our system but no one is bothered enough to actually want to fix it, or even change it, since it serves some of us exceedingly well. (I left the country due to this realization.)

I am extremely pissed today last week received a "final notice" from some a**hole bureaucrat of LDA (Lahore development authority) that car parked outside one of my new branch is destroying the green belt and we are being fined "again" exactly after 3 months for sum of Rs.10k so I send my admin team to see whats wrong, many of he other offices/banks have compromised by paying upfront 4k and Rs.500 per month and the green belt is okay to be destroyed, I was extremely pissed off because the org wanted me to signoff the deal so that we don't have to pay 40k per year.

My answer was you can have my resign and shove it, if you want me to handle it I will pay it off my own pocket and filing a case with Lawhore high court, every one want to convince me I am doing wrong this is not the way and I am sick of this cowardice.
 
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Bhai it is very simple why every bureaucrat wants to fail every attempt at automation, simple because the tooti of haraam will be plugged this way. I have these c**k su**ers on courses in USA with IRS, senior most bureaucrats come to those course, idiot who have no hand one experience will never roll their sleeves up to do the actual work or close to retirement cases. Their entire world revolves around shopping, TA/DA and finding ways to get a green card for themselves and their children, find a way to damage to the country in return for table scraps although I like the urdu Equivalent (RAATAB), did i miss ogling at every women and bars for hard drinks.
Almost 99.50% go on such courses just for things you listed,only few go to hone their skills, learn something new and serve their motherland.
 
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I am extremely pissed today last week received a "final notice" from some a**hole bureaucrat of LDA (Lahore development authority) that car parked outside one of my new branch is destroying the green belt and we are being fined "again" exactly after 3 months for sum of Rs.10k so I send my admin team to see whats wrong, many of he other offices/banks have compromised by paying upfront 4k and Rs.500 per month and the green belt is okay to be destroyed, I was extremely pissed off because the org wanted me to signoff the deal so that we don't have to pay 40k per year.

My answer was you can have my resign and shove it, if you want me to handle it I will pay it off my own pocket and filing a case with Lawhore high court, every one want to convince me I am doing wrong this is not the way and I am sick of this cowardice.

Forgive me, but I do not understand how they can hold you liable for people parking outside your office? That should be a matter for parking enforcement to penalize the vehicle owners, who can park and go into any office in the area.
 
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Forgive me, but I do not understand how they can hold you liable for people parking outside your office? That should be a matter for parking enforcement to penalize the vehicle owners, who can park and go into any office in the area.

"In front of" on the green belt, there is no f green belt, trees yes, but no plantation, that is one of the reason I have given up on this bureaucracy and police they are a cancer for this country, parasites su**ing the country and people dry (Resigned acceptance sir). But still love the country.:-)

only few go to hone their skills, learn something new and serve their motherland.

While every attempt is made to make sure, no such person should go to any such course.
 
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"In front of" on the green belt, there is no f green belt, trees yes, but no plantation, that is one of the reason I have given up on this bureaucracy and police they are a cancer for this country, parasites su**ing the country and people dry (Resigned acceptance sir). But still love the country.:-)

I would ask them to provide the law or regulation that holds an owner responsible for who is parking in front of their building first. :D
 
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Ask your neighborhood store owner, how FBR blackmail and pocket tax. This need to be computerized at any cost.

then start running around the computer glitch------hahaha.......(computerized) with half of nation uneducated?.........and other half below poverty line,,,,,,,
literacy being a thump impression-----------

------- free , fair, equal, impartial justice-----------only solution,,,,,,,

eye for an eye------tooth for a tooth............
 
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Pakistanis have general hate for computer and all digital data collection tools,because machines don't lie neither they fabricate anything.Only way to curb corruption in Pakistan is, least possible amount of contact between money and govt servants.

I was with NIFT (NifteTrust) which is Pakistan's only PKI (Public Key Infrastructure) and I worked on a project for Nadra to digitize the electoral system by making it based on class 3 digital certificates, that would had eliminated any forgery or cheating or anything of that sort once and for all, this is back in around 2006-2009 time period we are talking about here, guess what happened to that proposal? :)
 
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then start running around the computer glitch------hahaha.......(computerized) with half of nation uneducated?.........and other half below poverty line,,,,,,,
literacy being a thump impression-----------

------- free , fair, equal, impartial justice-----------only solution,,,,,,,

eye for an eye------tooth for a tooth............
nation is not honest ... everyone talk about justice , when justice knock on the door , then no one likes it.
 
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