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KARACHI: As Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) struggles to rein in mounting losses, Prime Minister Imran Khan discussed major proposals presented at a high-level meeting to turn around the financially troubled national flag carrier.

The prime minister chaired the meeting at the PM Office earlier this month, which was attended by top cabinet members, civil bureaucracy and military officers.

The premier directed the authorities to arrange additional guarantees of Rs15 billion as interim relief for PIA. A proposal was endorsed to freeze PIA’s outstanding dues, amounting to over Rs80 billion, which were payable to the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) along with late payment surcharge, according to minutes of the meeting available with The Express Tribune.



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A special one-off grant of Rs485 million was approved for domestic repair and upgrade of the flight entertainment system of Boeing-777 aircraft owned by PIA.

Meeting participants pointed out that tax regime for the airline industry and for air travel in Pakistan was considered very high, which should be rationalised in order to reduce the rate of taxes. It was agreed to review the national aviation policy, open skies policy clauses and associated air services agreements including routes, slots and capacity awarded to foreign airlines, which had been termed discriminatory and disadvantageous to the national flag carrier.

Meeting participants were of the view that PIA should be adequately compensated for flying on socio-economic routes without getting any subsidy where other domestic carriers had failed to operate. The matter would be addressed comprehensively in the new aviation policy.

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The high charges levied by the CAA on domestic airlines for using its facilities also came up for discussion. The meeting agreed to review such fees to ensure ease of doing business for the aviation industry.

Directives were issued that a study and recommendations for placing the New Islamabad International Airport under the supervision of PIA should be prepared by the end of March 2019. Apart from this, proposals for shifting the PIA head office from Karachi to Islamabad would be finalised by the end of July this year.

It was agreed that the CAA would give priority in slots to PIA compared to foreign carriers at international airports throughout Pakistan. The PIA chief executive officer would be nominated the airline’s board chairman as well. It was also suggested that the PIA CEO should be placed on the CAA board.

“The government seems to have good intentions but some of its decisions may spark harsh reaction from the international community,” commented Afsar Malik, co-author of the National Aviation Policy 2015 and a law expert. “The decision to freeze PIA’s outstanding dues payable to the CAA is a violation of Article 15 of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) Convention 1944, which states that charges for foreign airlines should not be higher than those paid by the national carrier engaged in similar international services,” Malik said.

The government’s decision to reduce charges for domestic airlines only, while denying the same to foreign carriers, also violates Article 15.

“The CAA cannot discriminate between national and foreign airlines,” emphasised Malik. “If the CAA wants to slash its charges, it would have to do so across the board including foreign airlines.”

However, the charges for flying on domestic routes could be different from the international routes and the system is already in place. The CAA is subsidising domestic airlines on domestic routes.

Moreover, Malik said, the CAA needed to strictly follow the ICAO guidelines stipulated in the ICAO Document 9082, which capped charges at the level of risk-free rate of return on investment. “The perception that CAA charges are excessive is, therefore, incorrect.”

He said the decision to place the PIA CEO on the CAA board was against para 2.3.4 of the ICAO Document 9734, which states that “when the state is both the regulatory authority and service provider… the approval, certification and continued surveillance procedures should be followed, as though the service provider was a non-government entity.”

The PIA CEO had earlier been on the CAA board until a few years ago but the government had to remove him following repeated ICAO audit objections, he recalled.

Malik was of the view that the decision to undo open skies policy clauses in the National Aviation Policy 2015 would change nothing as traffic rights of foreign airlines were not regulated by the national policy but by the bilateral air services agreement, which differed from country to country.

In 2002, he said, the government tried to make such an arrangement with eight countries – the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait, Thailand, Singapore and Switzerland. However, none of them acceded to Pakistan’s request to downgrade the existing bilateral arrangements.

“Also, the government’s decision to place the New Islamabad International Airport under PIA management is unprecedented. Not only it will be against the ICAO Document 9734 (para 2.3.4), it will cut off the airport from the rest of the world as no competing airline will place itself at the mercy of a competitor,” Malik said.

Published in The Express Tribune, January 27th, 2019.
 
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Open sky policy need to be scrapped , only national Airline should be allowed to pick up passengers inside Pakistan

Foreign carriers must have a limit on them
Its other way around

Encourage more competition so that PIA can either stop making loss or bankrupt for once and for all

If other airlines can make profit PIA should also be able to do the same or shut its operations
 
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Its other way around

Encourage more competition so that PIA can either stop making loss or bankrupt for once and for all

If other airlines can make profit PIA should also be able to do the same or shut its operations

PIA should first need to address the main issue which is overstaffed.
Secondly Airline should use its resources based on Supply Demand not other way around.
e.g.
Karachi - Lahore is crowded route but only few flight although no alternate travelling option(Time/convenience Factor).
Isb - Northen area is also too expensive although its much cheaper. ATR round trip with single fueling.
 
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220 million population with major chunks of it living away from their hometowns and still PIA and PR are loss making. I cannot understand.


Some European countries with total population less than tier 2 Pakistani cities have national airlines/railways as very very profitable.


Something, somewhere went very very wrong for us.
 
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Instead of losing money every year on PIA, I would suggest sell it cheap to someone.
Pakistan need to start fresh with government private 45/55 joint venture by the name of “Air Pakistan” airline. No more union crap and ghost employees....limited performance based employments.
 
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Instead of losing money every year on PIA, I would suggest sell it cheap to someone.
Pakistan need to start fresh with government private 45/55 joint venture by the name of “Air Pakistan” airline. No more union crap and ghost employees....limited performance based employments.
You just changed the name wtf? Slove the issue at hand fmdont run away from it. This attitude is the reason for all of this mess
 
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People advocating selling PIA are making a mistake. Even in Australia which privatizes everything, QANTAS Airline which was previously owned by the government is still majority owned by the Government. In times of war, the last thing you want are full private airlines stopping business and running away from the country.
 
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You just changed the name wtf? Slove the issue at hand fmdont run away from it. This attitude is the reason for all of this mess

Did you not read what I posted?

Government-private sectors company where private company owns 55% of the share. They will make all the decisions, New planes (Boeing 787 Dreamliner and Airbus A350), new crew, better management, better performance. Regardless of what is the name of the airline, goal is to have Better performing, better service, reliable and profitable airline.

Ask yourself why other airlines are making money and PIA keep losing money. Do you know the number of Staff and employees PIA has?

Somethings can’t be fixed easily that’s way you have to use different strategy.

2018 Airline Ranking ...PIA ranking?

Garuda Indonesia ranked 9
Thai Airways ranked 10
Hong Kong Airlines Ranked 20
Bangkok Airways ranked 21
Malaysia Airlines ranked 34
Ethiopian Airlines ranked 48
Philippine Airlines ranked 49
Vietnam Airlines ranked 50
Avianca ranked 51
Saudi Arabian Airlines ranked 52
Azul Airlines ranked 53
WestJet ranked 54
IndiGo ranked 55 (Indian private airline)
SilkAir ranked 56
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PIA ranked 3rd worst airline in the World

Why other airlines from 3rd world countries are ranked in Top 10 and PIA ranked 3rd worst airline in the world?

Why in last 10 years PIA pilots were caught drank, crew caught smuggling drugs and laundering money for corrupt politicians and businessmen?
PIA - Over-employed, over budget, with worst in performance, service, and reliability.

People advocating selling PIA are making a mistake. Even in Australia which privatizes everything, QANTAS Airline which was previously owned by the government is still majority owned by the Government. In times of war, the last thing you want are full private airlines stopping business and running away from the country.

No one is suggesting to sell 100% of PIA. Sell 55% to 60% to private sector. Sooner the better, we will still be taking about this in 2029.
 
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Hello
I have answered you.
No response?
What? cat got your toung?
You do realize is 6am here right? Cat got ur brain?

Did you not read what I posted?

Government-private sectors company where private company owns 55% of the share. They will make all the decisions, New planes (Boeing 787 Dreamliner and Airbus A350), new crew, better management, better performance. Regardless of what is the name of the airline, goal is to have Better performing, better service, reliable and profitable airline.

Ask yourself why other airlines are making money and PIA keep losing money. Do you know the number of Staff and employees PIA has?

Somethings can’t be fixed easily that’s way you have to use different strategy.

2018 Airline Ranking ...PIA ranking?

Garuda Indonesia ranked 9
Thai Airways ranked 10
Hong Kong Airlines Ranked 20
Bangkok Airways ranked 21
Malaysia Airlines ranked 34
Ethiopian Airlines ranked 48
Philippine Airlines ranked 49
Vietnam Airlines ranked 50
Avianca ranked 51
Saudi Arabian Airlines ranked 52
Azul Airlines ranked 53
WestJet ranked 54
IndiGo ranked 55 (Indian private airline)
SilkAir ranked 56
...
...
...
PIA ranked 3rd worst airline in the World

Why other airlines from 3rd world countries are ranked in Top 10 and PIA ranked 3rd worst airline in the world?

Why in last 10 years PIA pilots were caught drank, crew caught smuggling drugs and laundering money for corrupt politicians and businessmen?
PIA - Over-employed, over budget, with worst in performance, service, and reliability.



No one is suggesting to sell 100% of PIA. Sell 55% to 60% to private sector. Sooner the better, we will still be taking about this in 2029.
Simple, other airlines are making money because they are run my a competent team of individuals. Not because they sold assets off. Fix the problem at hand dont cut corners
 
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