PM IK, why for 700 years all the top scientists in the world were Muslims

[N.Siddiqui]

PM Imran Khan talks about the three different education systems in Pakistan and how to lessen the gap and discrepancies between different lopsided education system and how to start the education reforms in Madrassahs and in western education system...


PM Imran Khan Complete Speech today in Religious Seminar | 2 October 2019

 

[war&peace]

Excellent job PM IK. He is doing what should have been done right at the independence. It is about time to get rid of this abusive and highly damaging education system imposed on subcontinent

 

[litman]

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/535622-british-education-system-to-be-done-away-with-pm
this idea will be disliked by the liberals who have their qibla in london .

 

[war&peace]

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/535622-british-education-system-to-be-done-away-with-pm
this idea will be disliked by the liberals who have their qibla in london .

You will see the habitual stooges barking all over the place.

 

[Baghial]

PM Imran Khan talks about the three different education systems in Pakistan and how to lessen the gap and discrepancies between different lopsided education system and how to start the education reforms in Madrassahs and in western education system...


PM Imran Khan Complete Speech today in Religious Seminar | 2 October 2019

the real question is how the Large swathes of the Old World—from the India in the east, to Spain in the west—were conquered and consolidated by the sword of Islam during this time, with more after (e.g., the Ottoman conquests)....

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Excellent job PM IK. He is doing what should have been done right at the independence. It is about time to get rid of this abusive and highly damaging education system imposed on subcontinent

He knew the western exploitative social system, the pros and cons, the gender equality syndrome inside out...and you only knew what is best and what is worst is through studying the whole system, the western as well as the eastern or Islamic, get the best from both systems or from others.

And when he talks about Ahle Imaan, the current Afghan Tailban is a living testimony to it....

 

[war&peace]

He knew the western exploitative social system, the pros and cons, the gender equality syndrome inside out...and you only knew what is best and what is worst is through studying the whole system, the western as well as the eastern or Islamic, get the best from both systems or from others.

And when he talks about Ahle Imaan, the current Afghan Tailban is a living testimony to it....

Allama Iqbal, Qaid-e-Azam, Maulana Muhammad Ali Johar, Imran Khan .. they all had the knowledge of Islam & modern education.

 

[rAli]

There are multiple issues;

1. Coherent Education system
2. Education and certification of the teachers
3. Accessibility of Education
4. Research and development tied to Education institutions

What Imran touched was just one aspect. Pakistan need to allocate much more budget to education and have proper reforms of the education system. They took good steps in KP.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

There was no meaningful science being done all over the world till the Scientific Revolution from 1589-1687. What the Muslim scientists did though was lay down the ground work for systematization of knowledge.Muslim scientists were critical in setting up the Scientific Method, though my personal opinion is that it is Roger Bacon who formalized the scientific method by tying in mathematics to observed experiments and also stressing the need for independent verification

 

[Lincoln]

Pakistan is heading towards self destruction.

Removing the only venue of effective education won't help you.

For 700 years, Muslims were top scientists not because they had Madrassahs and a shitty education system with no British education system, but because they valued the important books they got from European libraries, and built on them while avoiding religious bias, while Europe was destroying them thanks to the Church.

But no, PM khan has forgotten that this golden era of Islam was brought by open debates (one which would have u killed today) and by building upon the greek books and giving education an actual importance with libraries, and laboratories, and special places to study.

So dear PM Change, the person who references Scandinavian countries so much, start by having people go to the library, not by removing books from the library.


Someone also should push a bat into his head so he can do something for Karachi, only a single public Government good library exists, and the other one is by the British Council, having most books and reference material for all kinds of studies.

There are multiple issues;

1. Coherent Education system
2. Education and certification of the teachers
3. Accessibility of Education
4. Research and development tied to Education institutions

What Imran touched was just one aspect. Pakistan need to allocate much more budget to education and have proper reforms of the education system. They took good steps in KP.

We saw the results in KP. With 80%+ students failing the KP MCAT, and worse results in Intermediate of all provinces.

Sure, his reforms are working though. Tell yourself that.

 

[war&peace]

Pakistan is heading towards self destruction.

Removing the only venue of effective education won't help you.

For 700 years, Muslims were top scientists not because they had Madrassahs and a shitty education system with no British education system, but because they valued the important books they got from European libraries, and built on them while avoiding religious bias, while Europe was destroying them thanks to the Church.

But no, PM khan has forgotten that this golden era of Islam was brought by open debates (one which would have u killed today) and by building upon the greek books and giving education an actual importance with libraries, and laboratories, and special places to study.

So dear PM Change, the person who references Scandinavian countries so much, start by having people go to the library, not by removing books from the library.


Someone also should push a bat into his head so he can do something for Karachi, only a single public Government good library exists, and the other one is by the British Council, having most books and reference material for all kinds of studies.



We saw the results in KP. With 80%+ students failing the KP MCAT, and worse results in Intermediate of all provinces.

Sure, his reforms are working though. Tell yourself that.

Stop lying.

 

[Lincoln]

Stop lying.

Kabhi karachi tou aao, gadhay, Sweden mein beth ker kiya bhonkrahay ho jsb tummein abc nahi pata ground reality ki.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Allah-u Azimushshan has expressed HIS PRESENCE, EXISTENCE, CREATION etc. via the following two means:

• Closed Books: These are KITAPS sent to the Prophets via Vehi through Hazret-i Jibrail (AS)
• Open Book: this is the Universe with all the laws, cause and effects etc.

As Muslims we are supposed to seriously study both, and respect the laws - religious, scientific, social, economic, physical etc. And, we are supposed to leverage the natural laws - physics, chemistry, biology, politics, sociology, economics, psychology etc. - for the benefit of the mankind by maintaining the "balance" in the environment. The early Muslims understood it well and practiced them accordingly in a balanced manner without becoming heretical....

 

[war&peace]

Kabhi karachi tou aao, gadhay, Sweden mein beth ker kiya bhonkrahay ho jsb tummein abc nahi pata ground reality ki.

I know your ignorance and lack of counter arguments forces you to use abusive language and personal attacks but I will let you suffer in your misery as there's nothing worse than to be waddling in the bottomless pit of ignorance and mendacity. But I will always debunk your lies with facts and call you out to substantiate your claims with some credible source.
Machiavellian education system imposed on the subcontinent resulted in the mass production of brainwashed mentally slaves, devoid of any self-respect and dignity and you're a perfect sample...The aim was to produce a fodder for so called civil services to serve the British masters and suppress their own kind while licking the boots of their foreigner masters.

 

[Lincoln]

I know your ignorance and lack of counter arguments forces you to use abusive language and personal attacks but I will let you suffer in your misery as there's nothing worse than to be waddling in the bottomless pit of ignorance and mendacity. But I will always debunk your lies with facts and call you out to substantiate your claims with some credible source.
Machiavellian education system imposed on the subcontinent resulted in the mass production of brainwashed mentally slaves, devoid of any self-respect and dignity and you're a perfect sample...The aim was to produce a fodder for so called civil services to serve the British masters and suppress their own kind while licking the boots of their foreigner masters.

Agee musalmaanon nai uss education system ka faida na uthaiya hota na tou waqai na koi musaalman influential position per ponch ta or na hi aaj hamaray paas Pakistan hota.

Learn about Sir Syed Ahmed Khan and his movement.

One of indirect consequences of the awakening is the notion that without this revival of a Muslim self-consciousness and self-confidence, directly attributable to the Movement, there could or would have been no Pakistan Movement in the run up to Indian Independence.

Allah-u Azimushshan has expressed HIS PRESENCE, EXISTENCE, CREATION etc. via the following two means:

• Closed Books: These are KITAPS sent to the Prophets via Vehi through Hazret-i Jibrail (AS)
• Open Book: this is the Universe with all the laws, cause and effects etc.

As Muslims we are supposed to seriously study both, and respect the laws - religious, scientific, social, economic, physical etc. And, we are supposed to leverage the natural laws - physics, chemistry, biology, politics, sociology, economics, psychology etc. - for the benefit of the mankind by maintaining the "balance" in the environment. The early Muslims understood it well and practiced them accordingly in a balanced manner without becoming heretical....

Indeed, I ask my friends here what kind of stupidity is to shut down an educational system which is producing brilliant graduates and successful, just because it has a British stamp and label on it.

Insecurities of Mr Khan and his stupid followers, nothing else.