Please do not abuse all army personnel

[Black Vigo]

Don't fall for the ISPR propaganda.

Apart from 1 idiot on this forum I've not seen any criticise our soldiers. Its either directed at the individuals at the top of the generic phrase army, establishment, military etc is used.

Those at the top should have considered reputational impact when they acted.

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I understand your point
But this was posted by an independent source (at least looked independent)
So I couldn't help but feel but feel saddened by this

 

[Thorough Pro]

Lions lead by sheep

I was browsing the web and I came across this social media post despite our anger we must not forget those who actually fight for the country

These two soldiers just laid down their lives for our country and I am just doing my part to make sure they are never forgotten for their contribution
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They were commoners like you and me they would be heartbroken to know that they died while everyone hated them say what you will about the top brass but leave these boys out of it

That's all I wanted to add, Thank you.

 

[Mr.Green]

First Army's name is going to get a bad beating with the PTI protests. Secondly, the hybrid regime is also going to end because PMLN and PPP are not walkovers like PTI and have solid support bases. So, this will mean some time frame in which the Army has to go into a strategic retreat and start a positive communication campaign. So this will mean a re-enactment of Kiani era.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

I was browsing the web and I came across this social media post despite our anger we must not forget those who actually fight for the country

These two soldiers just laid down their lives for our country and I am just doing my part to make sure they are never forgotten for their contribution
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They were commoners like you and me they would be heartbroken to know that they died while everyone hated them say what you will about the top brass but leave these boys out of it

That's all I wanted to add, Thank you.

Come on....
Enough of this drama.
We are tired of it. We are not responsible for their shahadat.
The generals who made bad policies. Involve us on other fights(which reaults in creations of these terrorist) are the major reason.
Tell the generals to do their duty better.
Enough is enough.
People have taken sohomoto.
Even banana republic was run better.
All those men marteryed are not because of any civilian. Its because of their bosses bad decisions and karma

First Army's name is going to get a bad beating with the PTI protests. Secondly, the hybrid regime is also going to end because PMLN and PPP are not walkovers like PTI and have solid support bases. So, this will mean some time frame in which the Army has to go into a strategic retreat and start a positive communication campaign. So this will mean a re-enactment of Kiani era.

Kerta kyun ho aisa herkatain.
Aisa to koi ghair bhi nhn kera.
1.5 saal bad vote tha. Pti ke khilaf sara media tha. Wo to power main nhn ana wala tha. Phr is drama ka maqsad kaya tha???
An army that cannot protect its pm would protect the country.
An whose history is only surrender.
Why would the army need to improve their image in their people. Why has it tarnished in the first place?

 

[graphican]

I was browsing the web and I came across this social media post despite our anger we must not forget those who actually fight for the country

These two soldiers just laid down their lives for our country and I am just doing my part to make sure they are never forgotten for their contribution
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They were commoners like you and me they would be heartbroken to know that they died while everyone hated them say what you will about the top brass but leave these boys out of it

That's all I wanted to add, Thank you.

A suggestion, why don't you ask this question to military's top brass? Let #GeneralBajwa explain you why army shouldn't be insulted or hated in public. We do not support this act, but let the answer come from the military leaders instead of society.

Today for the first time may be, Army's top brass should salute common Civilians of Pakistan who stand before the super power while shining looking chests full of medals are lying before America with their pants down. Ask #GeneralBajwa why.

 

[airmarshal]

I was browsing the web and I came across this social media post despite our anger we must not forget those who actually fight for the country

These two soldiers just laid down their lives for our country and I am just doing my part to make sure they are never forgotten for their contribution
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They were commoners like you and me they would be heartbroken to know that they died while everyone hated them say what you will about the top brass but leave these boys out of it

That's all I wanted to add, Thank you.

We are not SAATH forum, Hussain Haqqani or anti Pakistan forces. We are Pakistanis telling military top brass that military leadership in on the wrong side of history.

Its this sympathy that you shared which the military uses as its political capital. The military should stop hiding behind the shahdat of our great army personnel. We are educated enough to differentiate between sacrifices of our soldiers and cowardice/treachery of military top brass.

Also, while army wants everyone to respect its sacrifices, it should also look at itself. The most vile and abusive tweets against army has been from Maryam Nawaz media cell. She was the one who implicated army in Dawn Leaks scandal. Yet, she is on bail and was sitting in front row today alongside top military leadership.

So step selling us this sacrifice narrative which miltary generals use for their benefit. We are with army but never will accept Mir Jaffer style treachery.

 

[Sugarcane]

Everyone respect soldiers and their scarface, we always stand beside them whenever their is need but coward property managers using blood of soldiers to increase medals on their chests and selling country for visas and pizzas can't hide behind soldiers.

 

[Black Vigo]

All those men marteryed are not because of any civilian. Its because of their bosses bad decisions and karma

That's the point I'm trying to make those are commoners like us who are forced to be a victim of this bullshit system

The military should stop hiding behind the shahdat of our great army personnel. We are educated enough to differentiate between sacrifices of our soldiers and cowardice/treachery of military top brass.

Right on

Also, while army wants everyone to respect its sacrifices, it should also look at itself. The most vile and abusive tweets against army has been from Maryam Nawaz media cell. She was the one who implicated army in Dawn Leaks scandal. Yet, she is on bail and was sitting in front row today alongside top military leadership.

No doubt about it
I'm against all this and the 2 warnings I got are evident enough what I think of "Those who must not be named"

 

[Maula Jatt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1513653135587241986

 

[dilpakistani]

Sir yea emotional blackmailing band karien wardiyaan dekhanay ki .... aaj yea bhi neutral hogai hotay tu zinda hotay shaid...
Inhi ka maatam ker rai hain .... inki qurbaaniyoon aur shadatoon ko hi ro rai hain kai agar kisi tesray mulk nai kuch paisay phaink kai issi tarah decide kerna hamara future tu lanat bheejo nucler weapons pai .... 7th bari army pai aur dunya ki number 1 intelligence pai...

 

[dilpakistani]

this for me is the most painfull of all that had happened so far....
such a brazen insult to these institutions when they will raise their hands to salute a thief..
Such a fall from grace .... Will never forget....
World's 7th largest army... 8th largest airforce...15th largest navy...
will never forget

 

[Pakistansdefender]

That's the point I'm trying to make those are commoners like us who are forced to be a victim of this bullshit system


Right on


No doubt about it
I'm against all this and the 2 warnings I got are evident enough what I think of "Those who must not be named"

Army has never used their power for the good of the country.
We need new provinces. They never let any government make one.
We need independent karachi province or karachi independent mayor.
Ager zardari ke cases maaf kerwana tha aur nro daina tha, to us ke badla karachi ko to free kerwa diata.
Imran khan punjab main first year main genuine local bodies election kerwa raha tha. Supreme court ne us ko cancel ker diya. Kum as kum wohi kerwa diata.
Khabhi bhi apni power sahi ke liyn use nhn ki.
Hamesha gustakhi samaj ke hi her pm ko niakala.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Tragic , distinguished people with medals and achievement with , convicted Prisoners
and people who were protesting in Mohammad Ali Jinnah's grave (But obviously KALA coat must have given them special consideration and video evidence or photo evidence can be Omitted by KALA coat)

No further comment ...


From force which was bound to lead OIC and Islamic world to sitting with convicts
Sure is rough to absorb, as most folks in Military do have good morals and discipline

 

[graphican]

The fact that #GeneralBajwa didn't attend the oath taking ceremony confirms that this person flattens under pressure. This is worrisome.

Recall Ayaz Sadiq blamed #GeneralBajwa for he having "sweat on his forehead and legs trembling in fear" after we captured Abinandan? Here's perhaps a second proof backing that blame. This lad is not just incapable in his own right but he is also malleable who Americans tamed to topple Pakistan's Government.

No matter how you read the story, you just find Army's state institute is in the wrong hands.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I sure do miss General Raheel it was different under him, even Musharaf was Bold General

Musharraf

• He Kicked out Benazir and Zardari
• He Kicked out Nawaz Sharif

Things were very stable economy wise during that time

If Musharraf had another 10 years between 2007 and 2017 , we likely would have developed into Economy similar to Singapore by now, Pakistan was in such a high trajectory

Even that time KALA Coat sabotaged the Nation and forced us to accept NRO (National Reconciliation Ordinance) . What a colossal blunder it was at the time