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PLAAF J-10B ready to enter service soon.

is this post for trolling purpose??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


good news..can anybody post external difference between J-10A and J-10B???both looks same..

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no man, there are so many differences, see, have a look,
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top one is J10B and bottom one is J10A, see the difference in radar radome, air intake at the belly of plane, the shark fin tail, and.... mmmmmmmm
see, this will help,
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there are LOTS of difference even in physical appearance.

regards!
 
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Nobody can answer you that

That's the problem why we can't have a real idea about the fighter so far and have only speculations based on some pics nothing else. Having similar systems like other 4th to 4.5 gen fighters alone doesn't make it as capable, unless we know how good these systems are. The puls doppler radars in J10A and JF 17 for example might be better than initially expected, but still not as good as western counterparts and we can even take basic specs like the emptyweight to see the differences, because the single engine / single seat J10A is heavier than the twin engine / single seat Rafale F3 for example, which results in a rather poor TWR. So if J10B will be upgraded to a very capable multi role fighter (which is possible, since it's a good medium class platform with a modern design), it needs not only similar systems and upgrades at engine and radar, but also reduced weight and increased fuel capacity.

The best J10 I can think of, would have a TVCed version of J20s future engines, CFTs to increase fuel and free important hardpoints, or even better increased internal fuel capacity, AESA radar, a new set of AAMs and passive detection capabilities. That version could take on modern Flanker or Eurocanards for sure and would still be more cost-effective, but from what we currently know about J10B, it is not that level. According to ChineseTiger1986 the B version might get only PESA radar and the integration of AESA will be delayed to the follow upgrades. So we will have to wait and see how close it can get to similar gen modern fighters.

Can anybody provide reliable sources of the J10B for:

- empty weight of fighter and engine
- dry and AB thrust
- internal fuel
- payload
- loaded weight
- wingarea
- climb rate
- ferry range
- radar (range, tracking and engaging of targets), IRST (range) and EW sensor specs and capabilities
- amount of composites used
 
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Internet fanboys (usually having IQ around 82) are easily fooled by the claims of Frenchie arm dealers of this and that fancy electronics marketing clichés (which rightly reflect French average IQ of 100), while in reality combat results would give them a rude awakening when a J-10A goes head to head against a Rafale.

Granted, Rafale might have better overall electronics than J-10A. It’s however more than justified by its 2 or 3 folds astronomical price tag – a marketing technique the cheese munchers have learned through ages of well-horned experiences of selling vastly inflated luxuries such as Channel N0.5, Lancôme and Dior to the oil-rich, yet not necessarily the smartest, Arabs.

However, as Martian 2 has logically proved above, J-10A could have a upper hand against Rafale if equipped with a powerful radar or with the help of AWACS, in other words if it’s system Vs. system instead of arm A Vs. arm B as it will be in reality.

Higher service ceiling, higher top speed, a powerful radar, deadly & longer distance missiles!

These 4 factors are the very same advantages that Dr. Kopp described of how a J-20 could easily hunt down a F-35: fly higher and faster, early detection (an armed Rafale is far less stealthy than a F-35), shoot and forget.

At the end of the day, it’s PL-12s against alleged better French electronics, with corrected positioned J-10As almost immune from any French Mica threat.

Since J-10As are capable of launching abundant and comparablely inexpensive PL-12s all day long, the best thing Rafale pilots can do is to pray in Hindi that on board electronics counter measures could somehow shield them from incoming PL-12s 100% and all the time. Good luck you need it. :rofl:


No need to argue witht he indians and the french about weather Rafale junk or J-10B is better !

Get this fact:

J-20 will RAPE Rafale in any air to air combat.

30 J-20 will WIPE out the entire european air force include the french one with their overpriced, low performance rafale junks !!!
 
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No need to argue witht he indians and the french about weather Rafale junk or J-10B is better !

Get this fact:

J-20 will RAPE Rafale in any air to air combat.

30 J-20 will WIPE out the entire european air force include the french one with their overpriced, low performance rafale junks !!!

i think for that you have to get J-20...its better to get J-20 inducted before making all this nonsense arguments..and you are comparing 4th gen jets that was inducted 10 years ago with a jet will be inducted after 8-10 years..funny.. :lol:
 
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