PLAAF J-10A crashed, pilot died

[cnleio]

Oh no, the previous crash just last month.

Keep building ... crash can't stop us. U.S, Russia, China do the same thing.

 

[Beast]

Keep building ... crash can't stop us. U.S, Russia, China do the same thing.

PLAAF shall stop using AL-31FN engine that endanger our plane. Stop using those spare left over AL-31FN. Throw them into the sea even it will waste hundred million of dollars. Spend billions to setup another Taihang production lines even it will cost overrun or over production. PLAAF cant go cheap when comes to propulsion system.

 

[Deino]

Oh well a really wise idea ! The USAF did the same right after the 11th F-16 crashed ... they waited for years and invested in another engine ...
So far we do not know anything: was it "again" an engine failure ? Or was it maybe a pilot error, was it a bird strike or something else ... we do not even know how the PLAAF - and here for the first time the PLANAF - reacts after such a crash, but to throw all engines away and wait for years until they could be replaced is surely not an option ...

You are really obsessed by that black and white idea that the WS-10 is pure gold and the AL-31 in any version simply BS.

Deino

 

[Beast]

Oh well a really wise idea ! The USAF did the same right after the 11th F-16 crashed ... they waited for years and invested in another engine ...
So far we do not know anything: was it "again" an engine failure ? Or was it maybe a pilot error, was it a bird strike or something else ... we do not even know how the PLAAF - and here for the first time the PLANAF - reacts after such a crash, but to throw all engines away and wait for years until they could be replaced is surely not an option ...

You are really obsessed by that black and white idea that the WS-10 is pure gold and the AL-31 in any version simply BS.

Deino

Indeed, AL-31 engine is crap and Taihang engine is gold. Let me ask you one question, how many Taihang equipped plane has crashed so far? None.

Russian military industries has never reform and still use the old soviet era style for their production. What good quality can they produced?

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They are still many element of Jiang zemin legacy in PLA who still has the tendercy of worshiping foreign weapon stuff over local.

President Xi need to step up reform more quickly to weep out these old fart in PLA.

 

[Chika_Pika]

Oh well a really wise idea ! The USAF did the same right after the 11th F-16 crashed ... they waited for years and invested in another engine ...
So far we do not know anything: was it "again" an engine failure ? Or was it maybe a pilot error, was it a bird strike or something else ... we do not even know how the PLAAF - and here for the first time the PLANAF - reacts after such a crash, but to throw all engines away and wait for years until they could be replaced is surely not an option ...

You are really obsessed by that black and white idea that the WS-10 is pure gold and the AL-31 in any version simply BS.

Deino

Well accident happen during development, nothing new, China is going good

Indeed, AL-31 engine is crap and Taihang engine is gold. Let me ask you one question, how many Taihang equipped plane has crashed so far? None.

Russian military industries has never reform and still use the old soviet era style for their production. What good quality can they produced?

China Army Paper Warns Of Lost Wars And Shame If No Reform

They are still many element of Jiang zemin legacy in PLA who still has the tendercy of worshiping foreign weapon stuff over local.

President Xi need to step up reform more quickly to weep out these old fart in PLA.

LOL, blaming every accident to Russian faulty engine Specially by a Chinese, (as China is totally dependent on Russia for jet engines) is hilarious at best

 

[Deino]

Indeed, AL-31 engine is crap and Taihang engine is gold. Let me ask you one question, how many Taihang equipped plane has crashed so far? None.

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You really only see what You want to see ! If You want to compare in honest, then You have to compare single engined AL-31FN-birds with single engined-WS-10B-birds and not a twin engined Flanker, that still can return even with one engine with a single engined type that simply falls down regardless the type of engine installed.

 

[neytirilover]

Indeed, AL-31 engine is crap and Taihang engine is gold. Let me ask you one question, how many Taihang equipped plane has crashed so far? None.

Russian military industries has never reform and still use the old soviet era style for their production. What good quality can they produced?

China Army Paper Warns Of Lost Wars And Shame If No Reform

They are still many element of Jiang zemin legacy in PLA who still has the tendercy of worshiping foreign weapon stuff over local.

President Xi need to step up reform more quickly to weep out these old fart in PLA.

Stay objective please, reasoning is a virtue man~

Well accident happen during development, nothing new, China is going good


LOL, blaming every accident to Russian faulty engine Specially by a Chinese, (as China is totally dependent on Russia for jet engines) is hilarious at best

While indeed most of the crashes of J-10 are resulted from issues with this russian engine, I still blame WS-10 for its significantly delayed time frame. Anyways, WS-10 is finally coming!

 

[Beast]

Well accident happen during development, nothing new, China is going good


LOL, blaming every accident to Russian faulty engine Specially by a Chinese, (as China is totally dependent on Russia for jet engines) is hilarious at best

You are outdated on your info. Chinese has gone on mass production of domestic engine but going cheap by trying to use up the left over of AL-31 engine.

 

[Chika_Pika]

You are outdated on your info. Chinese has gone on mass production of domestic engine but going cheap by trying to use up the left over of AL-31 engine.

Yes I know china is developing ws10,

 

[Harisudan]

This time pilot is alive. Injection is successful.

Injected with what?? A life saving Drug or something??

why j 10 crashed and pilot died?was ws 10 engine in the crashed aircraft? if yeas so change it,s engine.it is a very unique aircraft.i like it.please trace it,s fault and remove it

chines friend i want to see j 10b very soon in paf fleet.

I can see your desperation mate.. But it will take time to make the WS10 air Worthy.. But it will happen don't worry.. But adding in PAF fleet is a big doubt

 

[cnleio]

This one ... Navy J-10S, not Airforce J-10S

 

[samlove]

 

[菜鸟耶夫斯基]

Injected with what?? A life saving Drug or something??


I can see your desperation mate.. But it will take time to make the WS10 air Worthy.. But it will happen don't worry.. But adding in PAF fleet is a big doubt

my English is poor. sorry about that.

 

[cnleio]

What is the life expectancy of Chinese engines...

American engines General Electric F414 have 6000 hrs

Russian engines RD-33 around 4000 hrs

Chinese WS-13 only 2000 hrs... Chinese have sacrificed life expectancy of aero engines to un-economical levels to achieve higher thrust

Where Indian get Chinese WS-13 only 2000 hrs, from Indian media ? And China didn't import RD-33 from Russia, it's India Mig-29 China is RD-93 for JF-17 ... and China domestic engine for J-10 is WS-10A. Very funny India always make wrong the data about what China has, is that Indian always underestimate China like what u ever did in 1962 ? not good for India.

 

[BoQ77]

Chinese Navy fighter jet crashes into factory in Taizhou, no casualties reported

Taizhou residents got quite the surprise last night when a fighter jet crashed into a local factory.

In a statement, Chinese Navy spokesman Liang Yang confirmed that a fighter jet of the East Sea Fleet had crashed into a sewing machine factory in Taizhou, Zhejiang province, at around 7:30 p.m., during a night training mission, CRI reports.

Yang added that the pilot had parachuted safely to the ground before the crash and there were no casualties reported. The cause of the crash is under investigation.

While fortunately no one was hurt, the plane crash did ignite a fire in the factory that attracted the eyes and camera lenses of locals. Pictures of the burning factory have since flooded onto Weibo.

The crash occurs just after the Chinese military scrambled three fighter jets in the South China Sea on Tuesday as a US warship sailed within 12 miles of one of China's largest artificial islands, in yet another operation countering China's military buildup in the region.

For one reason or another, fighter jet crashes are nothing new in China, or even in the city of Taizhou. Just last December a PLA Jian-10 fighter tumbled down to earth during a night training exercise near the city, with both pilots ejecting safely. The PLA blamed the crash on "frequent nighttime training."

Only a few months before, another Jian-10 fighter jet crashed near Shenyang, in northeastern China, again no casualties were reported. This time local media blamed the crash on the plane's imported Russian engine while praising the pilot's "outstanding solider's conviction."

In 2014, a fighter jet crashed right into the walls of a Chengdu property development, setting fires ablaze and injuring at least seven people

The year before that Chinese military authorities confirmed that two pilots had died after their plane crashed during a drill in Shandong province.

And in 2012, a military aircraft crashed to the ground in downtown Shantou, Guangdong province, destroying a house and severely injuring a young woman.